Other Tiers: Pseudo Tier 0

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Just something I'm doing for fun: What do y'all think of this part of a tiering system I found on this tiering system: Power Scaling Wiki?

Listen, I didn't read nor completely understand this tiering system but from the VERY limited knowledge I could gather, it's like this:
-High Transcendent: Basically Tier 0 but without the singular being and immutability; Absolute but mutable and multiple.
-High Transcendent+: Basically Tier 0 but without the singular being; Absolute but multiple.

Remember to give what I said with a mountain of salt, guys.

High Transcendent: Characters or structures that exist beyond all determinateness in reference to limited modes possess a transcendence that isn't merely achieved through otherness but through self-determinacy. This concept aligns with Hegelian philosophy, where transcendence is understood as a relational process that refers to itself—a relative ground that is partially absolute. In Hegelian terms, pure being and self-determinateness exist above, below, and equal to each other. This concept is illustrated by the interplay between pure being, pure nothing, and becoming, which are in constant flux, providing a unity of all categories of existence and nonexistence, negation and affirmation. This dynamic interplay is often referred to as True infinity in Hegelian philosophy.

In essence, characters or structures that embody this Hegelian notion transcend conventional determinateness and limitations imposed by limited modes of existence. Their existence encompasses a fluidity and unity that transcends dualities and contradictions, reflecting the constant flux and interplay of pure being, pure nothing, and becoming. This conceptual framework provides a deeper understanding of transcendence and its implications for character classifications within philosophical and metaphysical contexts.[4]

In this conceptualization, bad infinity is characterized by its codependence on finitude, constituting an infinite linear progression of finite entities that continually end and begin anew. Each finite element within this progression represents a limit and determination, marking the culmination of one stage and the commencement of the next. When viewed collectively, bad infinity comprises an infinite number of finite particulars. Despite finitude being an intrinsic property of infinity in this context, the definition of infinity itself is contingent upon the boundaries imposed by finitude. Thus, bad infinity is inherently determinate, featuring an unending process where one finite entity transitions into another, perpetuating the cycle of creation and dissolution that constitutes the entirety of infinity.

Bad infinity is governed by its finite particulars, resulting in a self-imposed limitation by its very transcendence. While bad infinity encompasses an infinite progression of finite elements, each individual component contributes to the overall structure and definition of infinity. Consequently, despite its infinite nature, bad infinity remains bound by the constraints and characteristics of its finite constituents. This interplay between finitude and infinity underscores the complex relationship between the finite and the infinite, highlighting how the limitations inherent in the former shape and define the expansive nature of the latter.

"Can [an omnipotent being] create a stone so heavy that it cannot lift it?" - Omnipotence Paradox.

True infinity transcends itself to sustain its status as true infinity, embodying a state that is neither opposed nor twinned to finitude, as observed in bad infinity. If we were to consider true infinity as a description of the character of material finite things, this description inherently posits its own "transcendence," leading to a paradox akin to bad infinity. However, true infinity sustains its transcendence by continuously transcending its own transcendence, rather than transcending finitude. This continuous transcendence results in self-determinateness, achieved through the act of transcending otherness.

This perspective resolves the central paradox of being unbounded yet confined by unboundedness, and of being unknowable yet already known as unknowability (the paradox of ineffability). True infinity achieves this resolution by defining itself as a continuous movement, perpetually altering determination between finite and infinite states. This dynamic interplay sees transcendence returning to immanence, and immanence rising to transcendence in an ongoing cycle.

The example of God lifting a stone that he creates so heavy that he couldn't lift it illustrates this concept further. In this scenario, God not only transcends limits but also transcends the limits of his own transcendence over limits. This highlights the dynamic nature of true infinity, where transcendence is not static but continuously evolves and encompasses even the limits of its own transcendence.

God can lift a stone, that he creates so heavy that he couldn't lift it. Because God not only transcends limits, but the limits of his transcendence over limits.

In summary, true infinity represents a state of perpetual transcendence and self-determination, characterized by the continuous interplay between finite and infinite aspects. This dynamic process resolves paradoxes such as the confinement of unboundedness and the knowability of unknowability, offering a deeper understanding of the nature of transcendence within philosophical and metaphysical frameworks.

Primary Examples: The Mathiverse (FlatterLand)

Ontological Perfection​

Characters that exist outside and beyond all of intelligibility.

High Transcendent+: Beings or ultimate realities that align with Hegelian Absolutus or ontological perfection represent a pinnacle of existence where every aspect transcends mere relativity and attains a state of Simple Absolute identity. This identity goes beyond comparative notions and encompasses a complete and unconditioned nature that is not contingent upon any external factors. Within this framework, concepts like Pure Being, Totality, and True Infinity are not separate entities but rather facets of the same Absolute Unity.

It is not merely a matter of fulfilling potentialities or achieving a predetermined state but rather the realization of the Absolute itself. This Absolute is characterized by its unchanging and timeless nature, where descriptions and distinctions such as existence and essence lose their significance in the face of its ineffable essence.

The concept of Actus Purus further elucidates this notion of perfection. Actus Purus signifies a state of pure actuality where all potentialities have been actualized, leaving no room for further change or progression. It stands as the ultimate actuality, devoid of any potentiality or contingency, and serves as the ground of all existence.

In the context of God or the Unmoved Mover, these beings exemplify the pinnacle of perfection, transcending any conceivable limitation imposed by finite beings. Their perfection lies not in the fulfillment of attributes or qualities but in their absolute and unchanging nature.

Within this state of perfection, all movement and flux cease to have relevance. The Absolute, being devoid of any parts or divisions, remains self-contained and self-sufficient. Any notion of contradiction or imperfection is rendered meaningless in the face of this absolute perfection.

Theosophical Background

When therefore one asks for a content of the exposition, for what the absolute manifests, the reply is that the distinction of form and content in the absolute has been dissolved; or that just this is the content of the absolute, that it manifests itself. The absolute is the absolute form which in its diremption of itself is utterly identical with itself, is the negative as negative or the negative that rejoins itself and in this way alone is the absolute self-identity which equally is indifferent towards its distinctions or is absolute content. The content is therefore only this exposition itself. As this self-bearing movement of exposition, as a way and manner which is its absolute identity with itself, the absolute is expression, not of an inner, nor over against an other, but simply as absolute manifestation of itself for itself. Thus, it is actuality.