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Ordeal General Discussion Thread
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This is very good work, though the Top 150 scan about natures laws says the opposite to what you listedFinished half of my Che rework
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Is Odreal listed as Comic or Manga ?
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It's listed under comic and that's the case for other webtoon series("webcomic")
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New calculations for the verse:
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the moon split calc is only the ke and speed valid?
I'm confused about the LS
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Valid in LS.
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I'm 99% sure that's verbatim calc stacking and why would the swing correlate to the fire energy released
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It's not, plus is a huge contradiction in the verse.
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The silliest Naruto LS upgrade
The premise is simple. We got an accepted calculation for Sasuke lifting his sword at rel+ speeds that goes up to class P. This thread is to decide whether we can use it or not. I'm not going to go into who this scales to and who it doesn't since I plan on enslaving someone else to do that if...
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When I read the comments, the staff said that unless the swinging object is heavy enough, it's not LS.It's not, plus is a huge contradiction in the verse.
The silliest Naruto LS upgrade
The premise is simple. We got an accepted calculation for Sasuke lifting his sword at rel+ speeds that goes up to class P. This thread is to decide whether we can use it or not. I'm not going to go into who this scales to and who it doesn't since I plan on enslaving someone else to do that if...
Che's weapon doesn't seem very heavy. I guess it can't be used as LS.
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By the way, there are calculations that I’m waiting to be evaluated.
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It literally is, it uses the result of an AP calculation to apply as a power value to another calculation, a lifting strength oneIt's not, plus is a huge contradiction in the verse.
The silliest Naruto LS upgrade
The premise is simple. We got an accepted calculation for Sasuke lifting his sword at rel+ speeds that goes up to class P. This thread is to decide whether we can use it or not. I'm not going to go into who this scales to and who it doesn't since I plan on enslaving someone else to do that if...
And I'm pretty sure even the KE calc AND the Speed should be invalid, the split does not occur in the same timeframe as the attack tearing through the moon.
The image of the split is an aftermath and a 1 second timeframe is ridiculous when there's several panels in between the attack being fired and it reaching the moon, even bystanders in KODE's base react in the time the attack hits the moon
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There are other calcs for it
Post in thread 'Ordeal Verse Calc help' https://vsbattles.com/threads/ordeal-verse-calc-help.187311/post-7548041
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He rotates his spear to cut the Moon. That requires force. Therefore, this is also LS.
I agree that using 1 second for the distance the Moon moved is not appropriate. I will correct it soon. Using 5 seconds would be better.
For the FTL calculation, since it occurred over 2 panels, 2 seconds would be more appropriate.
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Yeah thats not at all how that works, the dude is literally shooting a heat beam to perform this feat thats not LS?
Goku doesn't LS for throwing a spirit bomb? Link doesn't get LS for swing his sword and shooting blade beams. LS for this is absolutely unacceptable and there are other problems as well as shey mentioned
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Throwing something is considered LS. And since I exaggerated the time frame a bit, this is not FTL.
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Idk why you're trying to lie to me right now, I went over the linked chapter and the dude is literally still holding the spear, he just shoots a beam when he slashes. This doesn't work
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No he ******* does not, he swings the spear, yes, but that's not what performs the feat, he channels' Ilios' firepower through the Naginata, WE CAN LITERALLY SEE IT.
And no, swinging a small object at high speeds isn't LS
There is nothing justifying 5 seconds for the moon splitting, not to mention 650km/s is over 300 times beyond the moon's escape velocity, the moon splitting at that speed is more than enough to make sure its pieces aren't in proximity of each other.
The moon split is only shown after the scene cuts to a reaction of the guy staring at it in awe,
Why can't the actual destruction be calced instead of using the arbitrary timeframe of a movement we don't see happen
Uh...no, it happens in 5 panels, genuinely what are you lying for? Isn't it chapter 127/128. I don't get how panels translate to seconds but the feat is framed pretty quickly so ig 5 seconds is a good estimate.
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The work is equal to cutting the Moon, and he swings his spear to do it. So this is LS.
What are you even talking about? That’s not how this works. We see that the Moon has traveled that distance after 6 panels. Therefore, at most, 6 seconds should be assumed. In feats like this, the number of seconds is generally assumed based on the number of panels.
No, you just didn’t understand what I meant. All you did was talk nonsense. In the other panels you counted, the fire hadn’t even left Earth and entered space yet. There are only 2 panels where it is shown moving into space. That’s why I said 2 panels. I’m not lying or anything. you came here without even checking the chapter.
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Am I lying to you? That’s not what I meant by “throwing.” Anyway, this is LS. The work is equal to cutting the Moon. He rotated his spear 270 degrees to do it. We can find the force using the F = W / d formula. It’s that simple.
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My guy he is shooting an energy beam, just because he swung his arm to do it doesn't make it LS.
Getsugatensho isn't LS because ichigo swings his arm to do the blade beam. This doesn't work end of story
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Bad. He used 1 second for the piece of the Moon that was cut off.
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What do you think about the timeframe?
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Che having stellar LS when he can't even breathe in space? And FTL is an outlier cuz the top guy in the verse can only move at lightspeed
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If you read the comment above, you’ll understand why it’s not FTL.
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Kevin went and moved a neutron star, the nearest star to eath is light years away much less a neutron one. He's already ftl
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The timeframe for this was unknown, we have no idea how long it took him to get there
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It was like a month or a couple from when he left the moon base to when he landed back on earth. I'd need to reread to get the timeframe down but its still ftl since he traveled lightyears in months.
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That's not how LS works.
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I know, it's just very funny to think he can physically lift stellar masses when he has literally no way of doing it
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The best argument.
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Again, False, the swinging action is exclusive from the Energy Projected that actually cut the moon + using the result of AP in another formula is calc stacking
Utterly arbitrary, the panel in which shows the moon's halves is after POV change to an observer's reaction, additionally 6 panels is wrong, the panel count from the attack fired to the view of the moon is 8
They're a continuous scene of 5 in which it reaches the moon, why would you exclude the actions happening in-between the attack starting and reaching the moon, for the purpose of wank?!
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Lol.
Calc stacking refers to using the results of one calculation to perform other calculations. This is not calc stacking since it occurs within the same feat and as part of a single calculation. Additionally, since CGM members also use this method, there should be no issue.
By your logic, hundreds of calculations using the F:W/D formula would have to be removed.
I guess you don’t know how to count. Learn how to count and look at Chapter 128. There are a total of 6 panels starting from the panel where the fire beam passes through the Moon to the panel where the Moon is split in two.
This is how things work. When this happens in 5 panels, it should be assumed as 5 seconds. Some CGM members and many members generally use the number of panels for the timeframe in such cases. It's that simple.
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And that's exactly what was done.
2 exclusive actions
A CGM commented earlier and told you why it's invalid, don't be obtuse
If they qualify to be, yes
127 is where the feat happens, 128 starts with a recap of the previous episode
That is arbitrary reasoning, a panel doesn't necessarily equate a second of time
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