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Ordeal General Discussion Thread

Shey said:
And that's exactly what was done.

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These types of feats don't count as Calc Stack. They are accepted continuously. If you don't agree with this, go open a Crt. You're wasting your time.

Shey said:
A CGM commented earlier and told you why it's invalid, don't be obtuse
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Some CGM members use this method. Many calculations that use this method are accepted by CGM members. You’re forcing yourself not to understand.
Shey said:
If they qualify to be, yes
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Then go open a CRT.
Shey said:
127 is where the feat happens, 128 starts with a recap of the previous episode
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Chapter 128 is shown in more detail compared to Chapter 127.
Shey said:
That is arbitrary reasoning, a panel doesn't necessarily equate a second of time
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There aren't even speech bubbles in the panels, and it's very clear that the scene depicted in each panel is happening instantly. Therefore, there's no reason to assume that each panel doesn't represent just one second.
 
Viott said:
Some CGM members use this method. Many calculations that use this method are accepted by CGM members. You’re forcing yourself not to understand.

Then go open a CRT.
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They do not infact do this, I've told you several times already and you're refusing to listen to instruction keep this up and you will be given an official warning. You can make a thread if you disagree with wiki standards but otherwise drop this. This isn't LS end of story
 
Dalesean027 said:
They do not infact do this, I've told you several times already and you're refusing to listen to instruction keep this up and you will be given an official warning. You can make a thread if you disagree with wiki standards but otherwise drop this. This isn't LS end of story
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Did you read all the comments? That’s not what we’re arguing about. He says the F:W/D formula shouldn’t be used because it’s Calc Stacking. And I’m explaining that he’s wrong. It’s that simple.
 
Both calcs have been accepted, Heres the CRT
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The (semi) first part of my Ordeal profiles reworks, reworking Sabito Heart and Leo Thomas Leo Thomas Old Profile New Profile Sabito Heart Old Profile New Profile Minor Kimyo Additions Things i forgot A tier i forgot when remaking the page is the Royal Blood Tier or the Hands of the...
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Question for @Minaaaa, was looking at one of the previous reply and you said something like “the pinnacle of the verse (in reference to Kevin) Caps at the speed of light”, because of the statement by KODE when he was traveling to see Che. Is there a reason why he Caps there when a base Vadik not even in war state was able to match that said speed? Who likely started running after Kevin went on the move since he would have had to somehow gotten the message from KODE’s Base.

I just don’t see a reason why we can assume he was going his fastest on earth. Also the neutron star feat was accepted as 3,750 to 5,200 light-years from earth and the confirmed Timeframe was 1 month both there and back, so couldn’t we use it as a speed feat too? We also have Titan generals in season 1 using photon beams and characters like Jon being able to extend his talent faster than it lands on them, unless we think Titan’s equipment is relative in speed to one of the most powerful characters both in speed and strength then I don’t think it caps there, imo.


Just wanted a little small talk, also how do I get my name on the supporters page? I’m new
 
Slayazy said:
Question for @Minaaaa, was looking at one of the previous reply and you said something like “the pinnacle of the verse (in reference to Kevin) Caps at the speed of light”, because of the statement by KODE when he was traveling to see Che. Is there a reason why he Caps there when a base Vadik not even in war state was able to match that said speed? Who likely started running after Kevin went on the move since he would have had to somehow gotten the message from KODE’s Base.
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KODEs base was already in tokyo while che was in shinjuku, so it wouldnt take that long to keep up with him & later in the season, we see Anton keeping up with him + Brent (already implied in that they do) says higher tiers surpass lower tiers in speed so anton shouldnt be keeping up with him.

Slayazy said:
We also have Titan generals in season 1 using photon beams and characters like Jon being able to extend his talent faster than it lands on them, unless we think Titan’s equipment is relative in speed to one of the most powerful characters both in speed and strength then I don’t think it caps there, imo.
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I haven't thought about that one actually

Slayazy said:
also how do I get my name on the supporters page? I’m new
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just copy the format of the other names but replace it with your fandom account name
 
Slayazy said:
Question for @Minaaaa, was looking at one of the previous reply and you said something like “the pinnacle of the verse (in reference to Kevin) Caps at the speed of light”, because of the statement by KODE when he was traveling to see Che. Is there a reason why he Caps there when a base Vadik not even in war state was able to match that said speed? Who likely started running after Kevin went on the move since he would have had to somehow gotten the message from KODE’s Base.
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Kevin is literally just standing there, match what speed,the speed of standing still?😭
Slayazy said:
I just don’t see a reason why we can assume he was going his fastest on earth.
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Because he was panick rushing to his supposedly deceased friend?
Slayazy said:
Also the neutron star feat was accepted as 3,750 to 5,200 light-years from earth and the confirmed Timeframe was 1 month both there and back, so couldn’t we use it as a speed feat too?
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It would be a speed feat but the statement directly contradicts, and Brent very often writes a lot of nonsense when it comes to powerscaling, heck even the recent Kofi Vs Konos fight where Kofi is stated to have Nuke level heat statements against Konos meanwhile Konos is killed by taking a dip in magma or when Kofi says he has stamina to last in combat for 7 whole days but can't even physically hold himself up after an hour of combat or when they state the whole state of wherever they were would become a battle field meanwhile they only go a few kilometers around. The powerscaling is nonsensical
Slayazy said:
We also have Titan generals in season 1 using photon beams and characters like Jon being able to extend his talent faster than it lands on them, unless we think Titan’s equipment is relative in speed to one of the most powerful characters both in speed and strength then I don’t think it caps there, imo.
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I've had an discussion on the photo stuff severally before and I'm 100% sure no one actually ever reacts to them and bullets consistently give these characters a tough time around that arc
 
Shey said:
Kevin is literally just standing there, match what speed,the speed of standing still?😭

Because he was panick rushing to his supposedly deceased friend?

It would be a speed feat but the statement directly contradicts, and Brent very often writes a lot of nonsense when it comes to powerscaling, heck even the recent Kofi Vs Konos fight where Kofi is stated to have Nuke level heat statements against Konos meanwhile Konos is killed by taking a dip in magma or when Kofi says he has stamina to last in combat for 7 whole days but can't even physically hold himself up after an hour of combat or when they state the whole state of wherever they were would become a battle field meanwhile they only go a few kilometers around. The powerscaling is nonsensical

I've had an discussion on the photo stuff severally before and I'm 100% sure no one actually ever reacts to them and bullets consistently give these characters a tough time around that arc
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“Kevin is literally just standing there, match what speed,the speed of standing still?😭“


I responded to this, from the story perspective Kevin started running after hearing the news , meaning Vadik who was on Patmos island would have had to get the news from KODE and then start running after , Patmos is a much further distance than where Kevin was and he was barely behind him



“Because he was panick rushing to his supposedly deceased friend?”

He could just be moving extremely fast? Why would a character who knows constantly he has to hold back uses max Kataigida talent in his speed to cross civilians? Just doesn’t make sense to assume he’s immediately using full speed


As for the Konos stuff wasn’t it the earths Core that was frying Konos? Like if i remember correctly the entire point was to take him down to the core
 
Minaaaa said:
KODEs base was already in tokyo while che was in shinjuku, so it wouldnt take that long to keep up with him & later in the season, we see Anton keeping up with him + Brent (already implied in that they do) says higher tiers surpass lower tiers in speed so anton shouldnt be keeping up with him.
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I’m confused on why Anton is a low tier? The same Anton that Minamoto said if they were to engage in combat he could kill atleast one of them? Even with Vadik being there as well, showcasing he is God tier level atleast.



He also blitzed Konos attack with his movement speed before it could land on Kofi likely an inch away from his face , showcasing he himself isn’t a low tier. I think it’s safe to assume Anton is relative to the High tiers, also managed to damage an adapted body of Konos that Kofi was struggling to damage after he adapted either or Anton doesn’t qualify for that statement.

Brent also said something like Rokash was light speed before but just ignore this since I’ll have to go through alot of scrolling and hours to find it💔
 
Viott said:
The link is not opening.
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Alright for the first links and chapters you asked for

18 like the other person said


And


112


I didn’t realize how short these seasons were 😭 first season is literally 44 chaps
 
Slayazy said:
I’m confused on why Anton is a low tier? The same Anton that Minamoto said if they were to engage in combat he could kill atleast one of them? Even with Vadik being there as well, showcasing he is God tier level atleast.
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Yeah but he's likely lower than Vadik since iirc either through WoG or somewhere else that the god tiers are somewhere in the same range besides the top 3
 
Minaaaa said:
Yeah but he's likely lower than Vadik since iirc either through WoG or somewhere else that the god tiers are somewhere in the same range besides the top 3
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Agree he’s likely lower since Vadik likely mastered Okeanos (since Vaal implied War State is a mastery level of the talent) and The great 4 talents > any other talent however Anton should be able to keep up with him Via the statements and feats


Also, I’m asking Brent for confirmation on the Light speed stuff just waiting on his reply


However I do have the Rokash statement about him being able to dodge and react to photons if you want to see that? One of my buddies found it for me since I was planning on making an ordeal speed scale soon
 
Slayazy said:
I responded to this, from the story perspective Kevin started running after hearing the news , meaning Vadik who was on Patmos island would have had to get the news from KODE and then start running after , Patmos is a much further distance than where Kevin was and he was barely behind him
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"Running after" completely disqualifies any chance of it being usable as a speed feat, Kevin had already arrived, a feat would be intercepting his movement during said action. Not catching up to him after he had stopped moving
Slayazy said:
He could just be moving extremely fast? Why would a character who knows constantly he has to hold back uses max Kataigida talent in his speed to cross civilians? Just doesn’t make sense to assume he’s immediately using full speed
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He quite literally stated "My power like a raging storm, cannot be tamed", busted through a building and could'nt control himself well enough not to harm the people he came to see, crashed out and left
Oh i'm not asserting that is his full speed though, but im not dismissing the possibility either, considering Ordeal is consistently inconsistent in the disparity between implicit and explicit events
Slayazy said:
As for the Konos stuff wasn’t it the earths Core that was frying Konos? Like if i remember correctly the entire point was to take him down to the core
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The earth's liquid aspect of its core only goes up to around 5,500C which is egregiously lower than what Nuclear activity yields, in the millions. Quite contradictory
 
Shey said:
"Running after" completely disqualifies any chance of it being usable as a speed feat, Kevin had already arrived, a feat would be intercepting his movement during said action. Not catching up to him after he had stopped moving
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It doesn’t ones running a further distance and had wasn’t even powered up , the other was closer to Japan meaning Vadik traveled a further distance and arrived directly after (also Kevin wasn’t charged up we seen further he can use Kataigida to amp his stats , from the version we seen he wasn’t charged up)



None of this matters since Brent confirmed Rokash in his state > Light


Azam in terms of speed > Rokash



So as I thought doesn’t cap there, wasn’t charged up and the other wasn’t even in war state


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He quite literally stated "My power like a raging storm, cannot be tamed", busted through a building and could'nt control himself well enough not to harm the people he came to see, crashed out and left
Oh i'm not asserting that is his full speed though, but im not dismissing the possibility either, considering Ordeal is consistently inconsistent in the disparity between implicit and explicit events”


This absolute changes nothing in fact this would be further proof that he’s trying not to assert all of his power because he knows the damage it can cause 😭 when he seen his power starting to surge he distanced himself and ran to mercury


Kataigida power can charge up, we seen when he pulled up he wasn’t charged up nearly to when he got angry and ran to the moon there’s way too much supporting evidence for him not going all out there than there is for him going all out there


And the question was for Minaa since that’s the comment it was from

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Minaaaa said:
Idk if we are allowed the author questions like this since it could be considered a leading question & other verses have gotten and is against our offsite rules.
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So we aren’t allowed to Use QNAs? He does QNAs all the time on live and on discord and there’s other pages on vsbw that uses QNAS on their profile. If not then I’ll just use the scale outside of here , ig it’s fine then but I don’t see how we can use other statements of ppl asking “how strong is this character” (or similar) as valid then
 
Slayazy said:
So we aren’t allowed to Use QNAs? He does QNAs all the time on live and on discord and there’s other pages on vsbw that uses QNAS on their profile. If not then I’ll just use the scale outside of here , ig it’s fine then but I don’t see how we can use other statements of ppl asking “how strong is this character” (or similar) as valid then
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On-site users aren't able to
 
To make it easier on staff to evaluate the reworks, I'm gonna release them in blocks of 2-3 (or at least the main ones)
First thread will be: Che, Tevin & Rokash.
After that, I'll figure out who's more important needed to scale off of but the blocks will be like this

Anton & Jonellie
Andrea, Vince & Iron Gakki
Louise, Vaal & Bjorn
Azam & Cass

After those are done, I'll start making new profiles like Kofi and Konos
 
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The first part in a series of Ordeal reworks, this time going over the main profiles that have most of the scaling. Minor Verse Page rework - New | Old Nothing but reformatting & removing some unnecessary characters. Che Heart - New | Old Tevin - New | Old Rokash Rampersad - New | Old...
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