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So why is it only the lower showings count but not high.
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Optimus Prime (Bayformers) Upgrade
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Consistency.
But more specifically, consistency within context. In context, if Prime was tier 3, people who could harm him like Starscream getting bodied by the military would make even less sense then they do right now.
What, am I supposed to believe these dickheads who are supposedly comparable to the Big Bang can be breathed on by anything humanity has to offer?
It's still questionable with Low 7-B but at least with that I can argue tier 8 explosions could do damage to their internals, unlike tier 3 where anything short of tier 4 stuff doing that raises eyebrows.
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Yeah there's quite a plenty of anti-feats. For one, how can Bayverse Optimus be universe+ when he literally gets harmed by human weaponry?
Disagree FRA
Disagree FRA
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IIRC they reversed engineered Megatron and got more cybertron technology from the Autobots later. They also found their weakness to heat. This is like saying Superman isn’t solar system level because of his weakness to kryptonite.
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And apparently bullets too right?
Difference is Superman is very rarely harmed by bullets, while the autobots seem to live and breathe getting ****** by the things
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He doesn’t have a weakness to bullets unless they’re kryptonite infused.
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Read my post again, slowly.
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Sounds like you're trying to say superman has a weakness to bullets but it doesn't matter because he rarely gets harmed by them so the kryptonite argument doesn't apply. Can you elaborate more?
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The difference between Superman and Bayverse is one is rarely harmed by bullets, while the other regularly is damaged by them.
Hint hint, it's Bayformers that are damaged by bullets
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Both which exploit weaknesses.
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Bullets don't get that hot unless they're incendiaries
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You're gonna need a scan for that, and again, that really doesn't explain how his reaction speed would be comparable to his in space flight speed.
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First transformer to take damage from bullets was Scorponok (he loses the end of his tail). The bullets were 105mm HE shells which burn up to 5,400 F. Second transformer was optimus prime and he was damaged by the same thing.
Megatron in beast wars taking g1 Megatron’s spark gave him a speed boost.
A different feat to go off of is in here. Optimus sends a ftl signal. Signals can be a form of energy.
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That doesn't scale to reactions or anything tho. It's not like any of the characters would be reacting to anything. A human isn't Supersonic because they can receive radio signals.
That's an entirely different continuity.
Except Optimus can literally tank re entry heat, which is 7000 degrees. So that argument falls flat.
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Notice how most of the big feats are re-entry? Yeah this is it.
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