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"G4 and G5's lasers are genuine light speed lasers"
Currently we don't accept this claim for the following reasons:
In this thread, I will be arguing argue in favor of the proposition that both G4 and G5's lasers are legitimate light speed lasers while also debunking counterarguments presented earlier.
I will begin by explaining why the lasers are legitimate.
G4:
G4's lasers are considered light speed by both the manga, supported by multiple statements made by characters and by databooks. Furthermore, in chapter 38, it's shown that G4's lasers originate from a glass screen, with G4 equipped with mini-windshield wipers to clean them. We also see his lasers disperse in steam, which even further supports this notion.
G5:
G5 is an upgraded version of G4, which means that the legitimacy of light speed lasers, as established through statements from G4, would apply to G5 as well. In chapter 119, it is revealed that G5's lasers come from his eyes. These are the same eyes shown immediately afterward projecting a holograph made of light.
Now I will debunk the counterarguments.
1. "They do not travel in straight lines"
G4:
At first glance, this argument seems valid, but upon closer examination, it falls short.
Certain types of lasers have the ability to bend. These lasers are known as Airy Beams and can bend anywhere from 8º to 60º, and in some cases, even up to 90º.
Even if this counterargument holds validity, that that the curvature of the beam debunks the lasers' light speed characteristic, there are still more factors supporting the claim that G4's laser is indeed a light-speed beam.
G5:
G5's beams have never been shown to curve, so this issue doesn't apply to him.
2. "It is tangible and can be interacted with physically"
Atomic Samurai:
This argument is not strong for several reasons. Light is known to be affected by shockwaves and air with varying densities and properties. It is plausible to suggest that a shockwave or air wave, if positioned correctly, can alter the shape of a light beam. Furthermore, considering that it is indisputable that the lasers are made of light, as established by G4, this argument could be dismissed as a NPI.
Sekingar:
We learn from G4 that his lasers emit extreme heat, capable of instantly melting through steel. This can be attributed to the fact that Sekingar's phone exploded due to the sheer heat of the laser rather than the laser exploding when coming in contact with his hand.
Furthermore, when comparing real-life instances of phone explosions to what happened to Sekingar's phone, the resemblance is striking.
When considering the checklist of criteria necessary to accept lasers as light speed, it becomes evident that there are more supporting the notion that the lasers are indeed light speed rather than otherwise.
Agree with both G4 and G5 being light speed lasers:
Neutral on G4, Agree with G5: @Emirp sumitpo
Agree with only G5 being light speed lasers: @KingTempest
Disagree with G4, Neutral on G5: @ByAsura @Qawsedf234
Disagree with either being light speed lasers:
Currently we don't accept this claim for the following reasons:
"They do not travel in straight lines”
G4’s beams are shown to curve and swerve without refraction/reflection occurring.
“It is tangible and can be interacted with physically”
Atomic Samurai was able to cut G5’s laser in two with a shockwave of compressed air, affecting the beam with a physical force.
G5’s laser causes an explosion when destroying Sekingar’s hand, implying it imparts physical force.
In this thread, I will be arguing argue in favor of the proposition that both G4 and G5's lasers are legitimate light speed lasers while also debunking counterarguments presented earlier.
I will begin by explaining why the lasers are legitimate.
G4:
G4's lasers are considered light speed by both the manga, supported by multiple statements made by characters and by databooks. Furthermore, in chapter 38, it's shown that G4's lasers originate from a glass screen, with G4 equipped with mini-windshield wipers to clean them. We also see his lasers disperse in steam, which even further supports this notion.
G5:
G5 is an upgraded version of G4, which means that the legitimacy of light speed lasers, as established through statements from G4, would apply to G5 as well. In chapter 119, it is revealed that G5's lasers come from his eyes. These are the same eyes shown immediately afterward projecting a holograph made of light.
Now I will debunk the counterarguments.
1. "They do not travel in straight lines"
G4:
At first glance, this argument seems valid, but upon closer examination, it falls short.
Certain types of lasers have the ability to bend. These lasers are known as Airy Beams and can bend anywhere from 8º to 60º, and in some cases, even up to 90º.
Even if this counterargument holds validity, that that the curvature of the beam debunks the lasers' light speed characteristic, there are still more factors supporting the claim that G4's laser is indeed a light-speed beam.
G5:
G5's beams have never been shown to curve, so this issue doesn't apply to him.
2. "It is tangible and can be interacted with physically"
Atomic Samurai:
This argument is not strong for several reasons. Light is known to be affected by shockwaves and air with varying densities and properties. It is plausible to suggest that a shockwave or air wave, if positioned correctly, can alter the shape of a light beam. Furthermore, considering that it is indisputable that the lasers are made of light, as established by G4, this argument could be dismissed as a NPI.
Sekingar:
We learn from G4 that his lasers emit extreme heat, capable of instantly melting through steel. This can be attributed to the fact that Sekingar's phone exploded due to the sheer heat of the laser rather than the laser exploding when coming in contact with his hand.
Furthermore, when comparing real-life instances of phone explosions to what happened to Sekingar's phone, the resemblance is striking.
When considering the checklist of criteria necessary to accept lasers as light speed, it becomes evident that there are more supporting the notion that the lasers are indeed light speed rather than otherwise.
Agree with both G4 and G5 being light speed lasers:
Neutral on G4, Agree with G5: @Emirp sumitpo
Agree with only G5 being light speed lasers: @KingTempest
Disagree with G4, Neutral on G5: @ByAsura @Qawsedf234
Disagree with either being light speed lasers:
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