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One-Punch Man - Collapsing Star Roaring Cannon and Saitama upgrade ?
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Why not? Isn't Yusuke Murata supposed to help with some of his development?
I also seem to remember that we used the anime to define some things in the calculations.
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Just because they helped out with it doesn't mean we take it as canon, not only that, several things in the fight and throughout the entire series differ from the manga in some way.
Also the manga mentions surface busting while the anime uses planet busting so there's that.
And we generally take the manga as the primary canon.
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For the sake of the wiki:
- Most profiles are manga canon as the primary source material
- Webcomic material was used at one point but was removed and will now be their own thing
- The anime can be used to find certain timeframes if they line up with the manga, as it is in other franchises like Fairy Tail or something (or alternatively to clear up a confusing scene like with Sasuke blocking one of Madara's attacks that the manga was very bad about showing). But overall the anime is considered non-canon material like with Toei Dragon Ball or Pierrot Naruto.
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Fr though, i read half of page 1 and i just keep seeing "agree" "agree" so why is this already three pages long? Did someone disagree? was it damage or pain?
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The fight and its development in the anime is not important, if the effects caused by Boros's attacks are, since they can give us a clue as to how he would destroy the surface of the Earth.
It seems to me that it has been said that things from the anime can be used for which the manga left them ambiguous.
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The manga doesn't display the same effects as the anime 1:1. And most of the melting scenes come from exclusive parts.
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Literally every CGM disagreed with the science.
Vietthai96
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FRA agreeing train doesn't mean it will automatically get accept
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Not to be disrespectful @UeTa, but do you even physics? I understand that you didn't get what I said.
You didn't even understand what that formula implies. The heat transmitted to the bone isn't just from conduction like you considered, it also absorbs radiated heat, which is especially relevant at high temperatures because it is proportional to T^4 contrary to conduction which is proportional to T. I literally spoon-fed the explanation behind the formula and why it is relevant.
Because earth isn't a blackbody doesn't mean it has 0 emissivity, nor does it imply the heat radiated every second isn't tier-4. Boros heating up the surface to 784M Kelvin implies exactly that.
Because someone did low-tier fictional calcs that can be done by using a formula without understanding the physics behind doesn't mean anything.
Thinking you need to heat up the surroundings to 784 million degrees celsius to vaporize or turn a bone into ash in 1 second is just... dumb, lightly put.
And your "logic" behind arriving at that temperature is just... wow. "It takes x time to turn a bone to ashes in 2000K environment, it must mean it takes x/1000 time in a 2 million Kelvin environment" such genius
And none of those sources you posted refute anything I said.
You didn't even understand what that formula implies. The heat transmitted to the bone isn't just from conduction like you considered, it also absorbs radiated heat, which is especially relevant at high temperatures because it is proportional to T^4 contrary to conduction which is proportional to T. I literally spoon-fed the explanation behind the formula and why it is relevant.
Because earth isn't a blackbody doesn't mean it has 0 emissivity, nor does it imply the heat radiated every second isn't tier-4. Boros heating up the surface to 784M Kelvin implies exactly that.
Because someone did low-tier fictional calcs that can be done by using a formula without understanding the physics behind doesn't mean anything.
Thinking you need to heat up the surroundings to 784 million degrees celsius to vaporize or turn a bone into ash in 1 second is just... dumb, lightly put.
And your "logic" behind arriving at that temperature is just... wow. "It takes x time to turn a bone to ashes in 2000K environment, it must mean it takes x/1000 time in a 2 million Kelvin environment" such genius
And none of those sources you posted refute anything I said.
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GUYS, JUST USE THIS CALC INSTEAD. IT IS PERFECTION.MIGUE FINALLY GRANTED ME MY WISH.
One-Punch Man: Boros' Collapsing Star Roaring Cannon
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Baken384
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Baken of The 384 Family no longer agrees with the calculation proposed but Migue's calculation looks very good.
Baken agrees with this suggestion.
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I'm still astounded as to how we entered the 784 million Kelvin mark instead of just going 1473.15 kelvin for the entire surface based on lava max temperatures.Not to be disrespectful @UeTa, but do you even physics? I understand that you didn't get what I said.
You didn't even understand what that formula implies. The heat transmitted to the bone isn't just from conduction like you considered, it also absorbs radiated heat, which is especially relevant at high temperatures because it is proportional to T^4 contrary to conduction which is proportional to T. I literally spoon-fed the explanation behind the formula and why it is relevant.
Because earth isn't a blackbody doesn't mean it has 0 emissivity, nor does it imply the heat radiated every second isn't tier-4. Boros heating up the surface to 784M Kelvin implies exactly that.
Because someone did low-tier fictional calcs that can be done by using a formula without understanding the physics behind doesn't mean anything.
Thinking you need to heat up the surroundings to 784 million degrees celsius to vaporize or turn a bone into ash in 1 second is just... dumb, lightly put.
And your "logic" behind arriving at that temperature is just... wow. "It takes x time to turn a bone to ashes in 2000K environment, it must mean it takes x/1000 time in a 2 million Kelvin environment" such genius
And none of those sources you posted refute anything I said.
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Because then the result wouldn't be 5-B, duh.
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Btw ueta I'm not specifically referring to you when I said low tier fictional calcs. I didn't mean your calcs are low tier, I meant fictional calcs are low tier in general (excluding a few)
I'll stop it here
Edit: it's still wrong, fictional calcs can be hard as shit if you choose the right thing to calculate, but I just mean most of the calcs done in the community cap out at highschool level physics (again I don't mean this to be offensive)
I'll stop it here
Edit: it's still wrong, fictional calcs can be hard as shit if you choose the right thing to calculate, but I just mean most of the calcs done in the community cap out at highschool level physics (again I don't mean this to be offensive)
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HOLY **** THE THIRST IS REAL
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@Therefir @Damage3245 Would you two be willing to evaluate this calculation whenever yous got the time?MIGUE FINALLY GRANTED ME MY WISH.
One-Punch Man: Boros' Collapsing Star Roaring Cannon
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In the manga the effects are not very well appreciated, sometimes there are only blank parts, but I think that in a panel you see metal melting.
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Indeed, its that simple
Inb4 someone else comes and says melting isn't the right assumption to make for CSRC insert 2 pages discussion
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Disagree FRA, but Migue's calc looks solid (but who am I to speak since I know nothing about calcing lol?).
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It’s an infinitely better assumption than assuming the whole goddamn atmosphere is being superheated to 784 million ******* degrees if I’m being blunt.Indeed, its that simple
Inb4 someone else comes and says melting isn't the right assumption to make for CSRC insert 2 pages discussion
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I knew I wasn't crazy.
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Oh, I WISH this was the case for versus threads.
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VS Threads are different than calcs in the sense that we have to see if the math is accurate, if the proper formulas are being applied, and how well the values in the formula represent the scene depicted in the comic, video game, movie, etc.
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what if
what if
we do half and half? melting stuff and surface busting?
or find a reasonable ratio between the two. IDK
what if
we do half and half? melting stuff and surface busting?
or find a reasonable ratio between the two. IDK
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Yeah no fam we don't do calcs like that.
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Okay can you guys chill with ratio.
UeTa
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Didn't you read my comment or did you just stop the first two letters? If I put f*cking emissivity in the formula that mean I know dumbass.Not to be disrespectful @UeTa, but do you even physics? I understand that you didn't get what I said.
You didn't even understand what that formula implies. The heat transmitted to the bone isn't just from conduction like you considered, it also absorbs radiated heat, which is especially relevant at high temperatures because it is proportional to T^4 contrary to conduction which is proportional to T. I literally spoon-fed the explanation behind the formula and why it is relevant.
Because earth isn't a blackbody doesn't mean it has 0 emissivity, nor does it imply the heat radiated every second isn't tier-4. Boros heating up the surface to 784M Kelvin implies exactly that.
Because someone did low-tier fictional calcs that can be done by using a formula without understanding the physics behind doesn't mean anything.
Thinking you need to heat up the surroundings to 784 million degrees celsius to vaporize or turn a bone into ash in 1 second is just... dumb, lightly put.
And your "logic" behind arriving at that temperature is just... wow. "It takes x time to turn a bone to ashes in 2000K environment, it must mean it takes x/1000 time in a 2 million Kelvin environment" such genius
And none of those sources you posted refute anything I said.
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Knowing emissivity exists in the formula doesn't mean you understand what's going on. When you clearly don't seeing your comments.
Your intelligence will be considered akin to that of a worm's if someone like me is considered a dumbass lol, don't even go there.
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Chill out with the insults.
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This thread sure went to hell fast ngl.
Edit: Also, why are we using melting? Reduced to ash should be the highest end of the statement's interpretation.
Edit: Also, why are we using melting? Reduced to ash should be the highest end of the statement's interpretation.
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Alright I said this out of spite, I'm sorry as long as you don't continue on this path further.
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