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One Piece: Thriller Bark Size Change

Kachon123

Kachon123

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Revising Thriller Bark's size.

This new calc for Thriller Bark has been accepted

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One Piece: Thriller Bark

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The old calc should be replaced with the one above for a couple of reasons:

  1. Uses angsizing instead of pixel scaling, unlike the new one
  2. Unrealistic results
 
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Addressing the second part of the OP first.

Kachon123 said:
Thriller Bark is a whole island noted to be so big that nobody has been able to determine its size. This is important because several other islands contain landmarks with sizes much beyond 1.6 km.
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The reason given for why nobody can grasp its size there is because it is its full dimensions are shrouded in mist. Not because it so unfathomably huge.

Kachon123 said:
The old calc claims that Thriller Bark has a diameter of only about 1680 meters. We know that this can't be true. Thriller Bark is the world's largest ship, making it much bigger than supermassive ships like the Queen Mama Chanter, which dwarfs 60 meter tall ships like the Thousand Sunny.
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The Queen Mama Chanter doesn't have an official size figure I believe, but even if we deduce its size by comparing it to the Sunny I don't think we have any confirmation that Big Mom's ship is over 1680 meters in size.

Also, the currently used calc of mine in the OP that you've linked to only has 1680 meters for the land inside Thriller Bark. Thriller Bark as a whole ship is 1953 meters across.



And now addressing the first part of the OP:

Kachon123 said:
Uses angsizing instead of pixel scaling, unlike the new one
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The calculation linked in the OP for the current size of Thriller Bark does not use Angsizing in Method 1. Just pixelscaling.
 
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Damage3245 said:
The Queen Mama Chanter doesn't have an official size figure I believe, but even if we deduce its size by comparing it to the Sunny I don't think we have any confirmation that Big Mom's ship is over 1680 meters in size.
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If you use that image, I'm pretty sure it's nearly 10x the size of the Sunny.
 
SlendVeny said:
If you use that image, I'm pretty sure it's nearly 10x the size of the Sunny.
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The Thousand Sunny is 39 meters long. Even if the Queen Mama Chanter was thirty times longer than the Thousand Sunny, it'd only be 1170 meters long and smaller than Thriller Bark.
 
Damage3245 said:
The Thousand Sunny is 39 meters long. Even if the Queen Mama Chanter was thirty times longer than the Thousand Sunny, it'd only be 1170 meters long and smaller than Thriller Bark.
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Yee but it seems to be much bigger than that

Tarte-Ship-Width.png

Thousand Sunny length = 105px (39m)

Tarteship width = 136px (50.514285714286m)
Germa66-Castle-Top-Height.png

Tarteship width = 32.7px (50.514285714286m)

Germa66 Castle top height = 478px (738.40454346877m)
Big-Mom-Ship-Size.png

Germa66 Castle top height = 29px (738.40454346877m)

BigMom Ship length = 107px (2724.4581431434m)

Would also be somewhat consistent
 
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I'll just note for now that Thriller Bark's title is the world's largest pirate ship, which doesn't necessarily mean the longest. I wouldn't say the Queen Mama Chanter being pixelscaling to be 2724 meters long (assuming the pixelscaling is correct) is an automatic debunk of the existing calc. Especially since we don't know how long the Queen Mama Chanter has been around or if the old man who made the original statement of Thriller Bark is aware of it.

EDIT: I've also found some panels that suggest the Queen Mama Chanter may not be as large as that.
 
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Damage3245 said:
Especially since we don't know how long the Queen Mama Chanter has been around or if the old man who made the original statement of Thriller Bark is aware of it.
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The statement isn't only from the old man
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死んで骨だけブルック登場! 世界一の巨大船で大暴れ!!

ゴースト島と呼ばれる、スリラーバークに上陸 した一味!!奪われた影を取り戻す為、七武海の 一人、ゲッコー・モリアとバトルを繰り広げた。

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Brook appears dead with only bones! Rampage on the world's biggest ship!

The crew landed on Thriller Bark, a.k.a. Ghost Island! In order to recover their stolen shadows, they battle with Gekko Moriah, one of the Shichibukai.
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Damage3245 said:
I'll just note for now that Thriller Bark's title is the world's largest pirate ship, which doesn't necessarily mean the longest.
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That would make no sense especially when ships are scaled based on length and height, both of which big mom ship would be bigger in
Damage3245 said:
I wouldn't say the Queen Mama Chanter being pixelscaling to be 2724 meters long (assuming the pixelscaling is correct) is an automatic debunk of the existing calc.
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My "debunk" was only for your statement saying that the big mom ship being only 1170 meters long even tho it can be scaled way higher
 
Damage3245 said:
The reason given for why nobody can grasp its size there is because it is its full dimensions are shrouded in mist. Not because it so unfathomably huge.
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If the land was less than 2 kilometers, they would be able be able to easily find out a range of its size regardless of the mist. This implies a much larger size.
Damage3245 said:
The Queen Mama Chanter doesn't have an official size figure I believe, but even if we deduce its size by comparing it to the Sunny I don't think we have any confirmation that Big Mom's ship is over 1680 meters in size.

Also, the currently used calc of mine in the OP that you've linked to only has 1680 meters for the land inside Thriller Bark. Thriller Bark as a whole ship is 1953 meters across.
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The Queen Mama Chanter itself when compared to the Sunny can be larger than 1.9 kilometers as discussed above, and as MoL said, Thriller Bark was stated to be the largest ship not only by the old man.
Damage3245 said:
The calculation linked in the OP for the current size of Thriller Bark does not use Angsizing in Method 1. Just pixelscaling.
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That's fine. Mine calc would still take precedence due to inconsistent scaling:

Inconsistent Measurements​

When evaluating the size of objects depicted by an author, it's important to consider that the author may have depicted them inconsistently for artistic reasons. A primary example occurs if the author has to show a large object and a comparatively small object at the same time. In such a case they might have to depict the two objects as similar in size for the sake of making both easily visible to the reader. When deciding on the appropriate size scaling to use, such inconsistencies should be taken into account.
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Oars is very often depicted as much smaller or much larger than he actually is depending on the intent of the panel. As described above, Thriller Bark is a very massive ship/island. A 60 meter being being that easily seen from that far away makes me question that panel's validity in determining Thriller Bark's size.
 
Damage3245 said:
The reason given for why nobody can grasp its size there is because it is its full dimensions are shrouded in mist. Not because it so unfathomably huge.
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This is not true also btw, Both in viz and in raws it's says that it's so huge you can't see it's whole size
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巨大すぎて全貌などわかりますまい
It is so huge that you can't see the whole picture.
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Actually, wait, how I respond depends on if we're going with the calc in the OP or Monkey's re-calc. Do you have any comments on Monkey's point above @Kachon123 ?
 
Damage3245 said:
I'll just note for now that Thriller Bark's title is the world's largest pirate ship, which doesn't necessarily mean the longest. I wouldn't say the Queen Mama Chanter being pixelscaling to be 2724 meters long (assuming the pixelscaling is correct) is an automatic debunk of the existing calc. Especially since we don't know how long the Queen Mama Chanter has been around or if the old man who made the original statement of Thriller Bark is aware of it.

EDIT: I've also found some panels that suggest the Queen Mama Chanter may not be as large as that.
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I'll just note that, assuming the Queen Mama chanter was around for the early stages of Big Mom's time as a pirate (which I think is plausible considering how prominent she already was as a former rocks pirate and possessed a road poneglyph even before Roger found the One Piece), then that would mean Thriller Bark was made after this. As far as we can tell, Thriller Bark was made after Gecko Moria's defeat at the hands of Kaido, since there is a distinction between the Gecko Pirates (the crew that fought Kaido) and the Thriller Bark Pirates (Moria's reformed crew on Thriller Bark).

Also, this is off topic but I think it would be a good place to ask. Do you all think it would be possible to scale the size of Hachinosu off of Thriller Bark once its exact size is formally codified in this thread, or would that be considered Calc stacking? I was considering doing an Honesty Impact calc in the future, and it would make my life a bit easier to just scale the island off the ship rather than something else.
 
MonkeyOfLife's version works, Kachon should correct his version of the calc
 
Okay, I'll wait for Kachon to do that before proceeding with my argument.
 
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