One Piece: Not So Minor Changes

[Kachon123]

Luffy

Which part

 

[M2u12]

Which part

As I understand it is

Luffy in base = 33.6 Exatons

Luffy in base post Haōshoku infusion due to scaling above his previous Rhino
which is 2 time multiply
33.6×2 = 67.2 Exatons

And G2 + G3 ≈ 4 time multiply
67.2×4 = 268.8 Exatons

G4 Snakeman/Bounceman = 4 time multiply
67.2×4 = 268.8 Exatons

and luffy says over kong gun is the strongest attack?

so this mean over kong gun > rhino Schneider that is 2 time multipliers?

G4 Bounceman OKG is
268.8×2 = 537.6 Exatons

I understand it this way

 

[M2u12]

As I understand it is

Luffy in base = 33.6 Exatons

Luffy in base post Haōshoku infusion due to scaling above his previous Rhino
which is 2 time multiply
33.6×2 = 67.2 Exatons

And G2 + G3 ≈ 4 time multiply
67.2×4 = 268.8 Exatons

G4 Snakeman/Bounceman = 4 time multiply
67.2×4 = 268.8 Exatons

and luffy says over kong gun is the strongest attack?

so this mean over kong gun > rhino Schneider that is 2 time multipliers?

G4 Bounceman OKG is
268.8×2 = 537.6 Exatons

I understand it this way

If what I think is correct, I have many questions to ask.

 

[Kachon123]

And G2 + G3 ≈ 4 time multiply

This isn't a thing.

and luffy says over kong gun is the strongest attack?

so this mean over kong gun > rhino Schneider that is 2 time multipliers?

Yes.

 

[M2u12]

This isn't a thing.

Yes.

So why does G2 + G3 get the same value as G4 Snakeman/Bounceman, which is 268.8 Exatons?

 

[Kachon123]

So why does G2 + G3 get the same value as G4 Snakeman/Bounceman, which is 268.8 Exatons?

Due to scaling around Oden. This is already accepted scaling.

 

[M2u12]

And one more question When he first started fighting Kaido, did Luffy's base form have an AP of 33.6 Exatons?

 

[Kachon123]

And one more question When he first started fighting Kaido, did Luffy's base form have an AP of 33.6 Exatons?

Only Luffy's Gear 4.

 

[M2u12]

Due to scaling around Oden. This is already accepted scaling.

I don't know Oden's scaling at all. Can you summarize it for me?

 

[M2u12]

I have a question, why does Over Kong Gun have a value of 1.08 Zettatons?

 

[Kachon123]

I have a question, why does Over Kong Gun have a value of 1.08 Zettatons?

Over the likes of Rhino Schneider.

 

[M2u12]

Over the likes of Rhino Schneider.

But from what I understand, Over Kong Gun should only be 537.6 Exatons?

 

[Kachon123]

But from what I understand, Over Kong Gun should only be 537.6 Exatons?

Boundman Luffy's standard attacks are 537.6 Exatons.

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

The proposals im the sandbox seem fine.

 

[DaMonkeMan]

I forgot to say I agree with the OP lol

 

[M2u12]

Boundman Luffy's standard attacks are 537.6 Exatons.

Why?

"G4 Snakeman/Bounceman = 4 time multiply
67.2×4 = 268.8 Exatons

and luffy says over kong gun is the strongest attack?

so this mean over kong gun > rhino Schneider that is 2 time multipliers?

G4 Bounceman over kong gun is
268.8×2 = 537.6 Exatons"

Is there any part that I misunderstood?

 

[Kachon123]

Why?

"G4 Snakeman/Bounceman = 4 time multiply
67.2×4 = 268.8 Exatons

and luffy says over kong gun is the strongest attack?

so this mean over kong gun > rhino Schneider that is 2 time multipliers?

G4 Bounceman over kong gun is
268.8×2 = 537.6 Exatons"

Is there any part that I misunderstood?

Bounceman is accepted as 4x Hawk Bazooka, which is 2x Luffy's base attacks (8x base overall):

far higher with Gear 4th: Boundman (4x stronger than his Hawk Bazooka, which is twice as strong as a regular Gear 2nd punch

Bounceman's standard attacks are 537.6 Exatons, while Over Kong Gun scales above 2x that to ~1 Zettaton.

 

[M2u12]

Bounceman is accepted as 4x Hawk Bazooka, which is 2x Luffy's base attacks (8x base overall):


Bounceman's standard attacks are 537.6 Exatons, while Over Kong Gun scales above 2x that to ~1 Zettaton.

So Hawk Bazooka = 2 time multipliers
67.2×2 = 134.4 ex

Hawk Bazooka < G4 Bounceman 4 time
134.4*4 = 537.6 ex

G4 Bounceman
Over Kung Gun > King Kung Gun > Leo Bazooka ≈ Rhino Schneider = 2 time multiplier
537.6*2 = 1.0752 Zettaton?

 

[Kachon123]

So Hawk Bazooka = 2 time multipliers
67.2×2 = 134.4 ex

Hawk Bazooka < G4 Bounceman 4 time
134.4*4 = 537.6 ex

G4 Bounceman
Over Kung Gun > King Kung Gun > Leo Bazooka ≈ Rhino Schneider = 2 time multiplier
537.6*2 = 1.0752 Zettaton?

Yes. This is all explained in both the spreadsheets and the sandbox.

 

[M2u12]

Yes. This is all explained in both the spreadsheets and the sandbox.

so i am the only persion that not understand? that is SAD bro.

 

[M2u12]

Yes. This is all explained in both the spreadsheets and the sandbox.

Should G4 Snakeman have a 2 time multiplier?

Because in G4 Snakeman also has two limbs attacks.

 

[Kachon123]

Should G4 Snakeman have a 2 time multiplier?

Because in G4 Snakeman also has two limbs attacks.

That's not how it works.

 

[M2u12]

That's not how it works.

Why? Because I think two limbs attacks = 2 time multiplier by default for Luffy?

 

[M2u12]

Why? Because I think two limbs attacks = 2 time multiplier by default for Luffy?

So Double Culverin ≠ 2 time multiplier?

 

[Kircdaaa]

But I just showed you earlier that Luffy's Over Kong Gun had Haki lightning streaming off of it here and here.

Koby doesnt have adv coc

 

[Kircdaaa]

As I understand it is

Luffy in base = 33.6 Exatons

Luffy in base post Haōshoku infusion due to scaling above his previous Rhino
which is 2 time multiply
33.6×2 = 67.2 Exatons

And G2 + G3 ≈ 4 time multiply
67.2×4 = 268.8 Exatons

G4 Snakeman/Bounceman = 4 time multiply
67.2×4 = 268.8 Exatons

and luffy says over kong gun is the strongest attack?

so this mean over kong gun > rhino Schneider that is 2 time multipliers?

G4 Bounceman OKG is
268.8×2 = 537.6 Exatons

I understand it this way

Lord.. finally now i fully understand it to thank you

 

[Kircdaaa]

And G2 + G3 ≈ 4 time multiply

that part is wrong g3 has a 4x multiplyer of g2

 

[M2u12]

Can anyone explain why G2+G3 = 268.8 Exatons? And I still don't understand the Oden scaling.

 

[M2u12]

Lord.. finally now i fully understand it to thank you

No This is wrong.

The correct one is probably this.

Luffy in base = 33.6 Exatons

Luffy in base post Haōshoku infusion due to scaling above his previous Rhino
which is 2 time multiply
33.6×2 = 67.2 Exatons

G4 Snakeman = 4 time multipliers
67.2×4 = 268.8 Exatons

Hawk Bazooka = 2 time multipliers
67.2×2 = 134.4 Exatons

Hawk Bazooka < G4 Bounceman 4 time
134.4*4 = 537.6 Exatons

G4 Bounceman
Over/King Kung Gun > Leo Bazooka ≈ Rhino Schneider = 2 time multiplier
537.6*2 = 1.0752 Zettaton

 

[Kachon123]

Can anyone explain why G2+G3 = 268.8 Exatons? And I still don't understand the Oden scaling.

Please figure this out on your own or in a different thread. This is already scaling that we have accepted. This is a thread for the multipliers not for asking questions about pre-existing scaling. You're filling up pages for questions that are a derailment from the point of this thread.

 

[KingTempest]

Bro tweaked out.

But yeah this is cool then ig

 

[M2u12]

Please figure this out on your own or in a different thread. This is already scaling that we have accepted. This is a thread for the multipliers not for asking questions about pre-existing scaling. You're filling up pages for questions that are a derailment from the point of this thread.

Oh, is that so, I apologize for my bad behavior.
and then distracts from the purpose of is thread.
I just want to understand why there is such a multiplier. Before I agree with thread.
so this is my last question Do you have a thread about scaling Oden? one piece it has a lot of thread going on so for that reason i can not find scaling Oden thread

 

[M2u12]

If this thread is accepted I think there's a chance that someone will post vs thread about "Luffy vs Naruto" lol

And i think i agree for now. all i want is Oden scaling thread, and after i read it
i will fully agree with this thread.

 

[Damage3245]

Why are you filling up the thread with comments of Luffy vs. Naruto? Deleting this.

 

[Kircdaaa]

i understand how luffy gets to 537.6 Exatons how does get to 1.381 Zettatons tho. and why is it possibly is it not for certain, can you use ap thats possible rated?

 

[That_moron2]

Bro tweaked out.

But yeah this is cool then ig

Is that grace?

 

[Saftirix]

i understand how luffy gets to 537.6 Exatons how does get to 1.381 Zettatons tho. and why is it possibly is it not for certain you use ap thats possible rated?

One Piece: Bajrang Gun KT Version Part 2

vsbattles.fandom.com

 

[Kircdaaa]

No This is wrong.

The correct one is probably this.

Luffy in base = 33.6 Exatons

Luffy in base post Haōshoku infusion due to scaling above his previous Rhino
which is 2 time multiply
33.6×2 = 67.2 Exatons

G4 Snakeman = 4 time multipliers
67.2×4 = 268.8 Exatons

Hawk Bazooka = 2 time multipliers
67.2×2 = 134.4 Exatons

Hawk Bazooka < G4 Bounceman 4 time
134.4*4 = 537.6 Exatons

G4 Bounceman
Over/King Kung Gun > Leo Bazooka ≈ Rhino Schneider = 2 time multiplier
537.6*2 = 1.0752 Zettaton

One Piece: Bajrang Gun KT Version Part 2

vsbattles.fandom.com

he got me confused asf

 

[M2u12]

he got me confused asf

1.0752 Zettaton come from Luffy in G4 Bounceman use Over Kung Gun
and
1.381 Zettatons come from Luffy in G5 use Bajrang Gun

Sorry that I may have confused you.

 

[That_moron2]

I think we just need 1 more staff agree.