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Also agreed. Just destructively going dead earth "burn it all down" over verses, especially one of our absolutely most important verses, is completely unacceptable. We need replacement calculations for the feats in question.
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One Piece General Discussion: Elbaph
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But WHEN I make a debunk thread for an unpopular verse I get hate, make it make sense mate, nobodies targeting One Piece. The calcs are bad, but it's okay because we can fix them.
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"The calc's aren't bad he says", he was then debunked 100298929249 times
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They said we can't calculate an earthquake calculation because it was a different ground.
They said we can't calculate a cloud calculation because the sky was different.
They said we can't calculate big islands because of artstyles.
Before you offer to help a verse, take like 10 minutes to actually look at the problems in the verse.
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top kek
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I've only seen valid debunks of the verse, and ones that usually go through sorry.
Lol, I've looked at all of the calculations and deduced that a fair amount of them have problems, actually it's funny.
You guys ACT like victims, yet when someone poses a valid debunk all you can do it gang up on them and hate on their thread.
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Says the 13 MJ chair breaker
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Tokyo Revengers scaling cliffs One Piece even though half of the verses scalers don't know how to calc, also where did I say 13 MJ chair breaking. I assume it's TR related.
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"When did I do this? Here's where I suspect I probably did this."
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Takemichi Destroys A Chair
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When was there Tier 5 crocodile??
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Ah yes, let's bring up the extremely old calculations, the ones without any anime scans to show the chair isn't metal. Stop this.Takemichi Destroys A Chair
vapour-calculations.fandom.com
I'll stop now. Sorry ant.
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Bro said "ah yes" without putting a comma between ah and yes
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Bro, if Kyle Rainer, Martian Manhunter, and WONDER WOMAN are outside my window looking pissed off, I'm just killing myself, that's like being the only normal person in a bar with Kaidou and Big Mom on a day with bad service.
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Where's batman?
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As far as I'm concerned, i have done literally nothing wrong or against the rules here.Yes, all of the relentless focus on disqualifying absolutely anything related to this verse has turned into a problem. You and others likely need to significantly shape up your behaviour in that regard, Damage.
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Eh let's just say your methods were questionable to say the least and Calc threads which are sorta fine kinda get aired since CGMs dont bother
LMFAOOOOOOOOO
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Saying this when one piece legit has basically the most haters and attacks outside the wiki is insane
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I think I already said that I'm willing to help with cloud stuff in thread but need help of someone who's knowledgeable in OP.
Felt like mentioning it also here would be useful.
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Not against the rules, but systematically purging the supporting structure of a verse until almost nothing is left while not leaving any alternatives has destructive consequences, so I would appreciate if you try to be considerably more reasonable in that regard.
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One Piece is likely the world's most prominent anti-fascist entertainment work right now, so naturally people who dislike such positive values and prefer the world's alternative current state of extremely authoritarian and absolutely ruthless hatred, bigotry, division, oligarchy, social Darwinism, infotainment indoctrination, constant distractions, divide and conquer tribalism and xenophobia, warmongering imperialism, and ideological madness would disapprove of it.
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There would still be 40 AP calculations left at least for the verse, and let's be realistic here, God Tier characters getting their ratings from scaling above lower tier characters is not unprecedented or "destructive".Not against the rules, but systematically purging the supporting structure of a verse until almost nothing is left while not leaving any alternatives has destructive consequences, so I would appreciate if you try to be more reasonable in that regard.
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Damage, carpet bombing an entire realm of scaling and offering exactly 0 alternatives is absolutely destructive.
Like not even something as simple as "Figure out approximately how big Blue Planet is compared to earth, get it to a percentage, than upscale the average planet shaking feat to that" ya just give absolutely nothing.
Like not even something as simple as "Figure out approximately how big Blue Planet is compared to earth, get it to a percentage, than upscale the average planet shaking feat to that" ya just give absolutely nothing.
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Anyone who wants to help on this topic?
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I won’t call it 0 alternatives
I mean, the op of said thread is asking the supporters, who might have detailed knowledge on what and how the planet operates, to help in make a recalculation.
I won’t speak on the preceding cases
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"Hey find the physics of an entire planet in a manga" is not an alternative. It's saying "I don't want to put in the effort to do things properly, find out yourselves!"
Edit: no shots at Floxy, since he HAS actually shown a willingness to learn and help, but jeezus ****
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Are you into politics? Because most of what you are saying are words most wouldn't really understand I feel likeOne Piece is likely the world's most prominent anti-fascist entertainment work right now, so naturally people who dislike such positive values and prefer the world's alternative current state of extremely authoritarian and absolutely ruthless hatred, division, oligarchy, social Darwinism, infotainment indoctrination, constant distractions, divide and conquer tribalism and xenophobia, warmongering imperialism, and ideological madness would disapprove of it.
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Except he’s willing to aid them in finding out the “Physics of the Planet”. He has asked KT for help on the thread, and now, asking y’all.
And you can’t say he’s not willing to put in the effort when you don’t even know him.
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Just post 1200 chapters of a manga, then like two dozen Vivre Cards, and try to find out from there... that's not a solution it's applying asinine standards that no other verse is subject to. Like I said, no full shots at Floxy, but you don't put one of a dozen torpedoes into a ship and be shocked when the captain and his two Lieutenants get pissed at you for helping sink it.
People have walls. The discussion thread is open.
You can like... discuss it here instead of going forward with a thread nobody is ready for. This is the sort of thread that takes months of time and effort, ASSUMING that it actually becomes a standard in the first place.
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If the ship was held together by duct tape and cardboard then it seems only right to point out the issues with it. Whether the ship sinks or gets repaired shouldn't just depend on the person who points out the issues.
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? My request is something relatively simple like "at what height snow forms in OP due to temp change with altitude?"
I even messaged KT on discord about it, got no response. How should I fix stuff of verse I know almost nothing about?
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If the ship works, it works... Doesn't matter the quality, destroying the ship all together just makes everyone stranded on the sea
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uhhh... Impossible to know I think, there's sky islands and elbaph (Same on drum island mountains) where the temperature doesn't seem to get cold/colder with those altitudes (there's air shortages tho
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Not necessarily that example, I just need to know how temperature drops with altitude. But that can also work I think.uhhh... Impossible to know I think, there's sky islands and elbaph where the temperature doesn't seem to get cold with those altitudes (there's air shortages tho
Is it 33k feet above blue sea or 56k feet?
Edit: max height of a mountain that doesn't have snow on top of it can also work I guess? But that'll be a lowball. Oh, that can still give higher result compared to air shortage end based on height of mountain you mentioned.
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33k feet above the sea.
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If the calcs are flawed, then they’re flawed. And from what I’m seeing, you’re the one who needs to shape up. You’ve constantly showed a bias towards One Piece and have been practically gatekeeping any downgrades by insisting that Damage has a vendetta against the verse, as if that makes his arguments and concerns invalid.Yes, all of the relentless focus on disqualifying absolutely anything related to this verse has turned into a problem. You and others likely need to significantly shape up your behaviour in that regard, Damage.
Hmm. Are only two staff votes required for revising such an extremely prominent verse, especially Damage3245's repeated attempts to downgrade One Piece in the past? I think that we should notify more calc group members to help out here for extra safety first.
I thought that we revised our rules to clarify that we need a strong consensus for such cases? In any case, I think that passing such an important change on such a slim margin, especially given that one of the votes, yourself, have personally repeatedly tried to severely downgrade this verse for years if I have understood correctly, seems too unreliable, so I would much prefer to see what other calc group members think as well first.
It’s totally unbecoming of someone in your position to act this way.Yes, I have also noticed that Damage has seemed extremely focused on downgrading One Piece over the years.
