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One Piece General Discussion: Elbaph

Antvasima said:
Well, maybe you are right. For example, Saturn seemed to have powerful non-physical telepathic abilities that the others haven't demonstrated. 🙏
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Truth, Saturn overpowered sanji with it and heavily damaged gear 5

And then there's Nusjuro's bite that overpowered Sanji in a similar way
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Dark_Soul20189 said:
Does anyone have any idea if this Calc has been nuked or not, and if it's fine for me to just remove?
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Why would you just remove it?
Dark_Soul20189 said:
I can't find it on anything other than Usopp's outdated page. (so it is extremely likely it was missed during its debunk/removal or replacement.
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It's still being used then, it's just because most characters scale to Nami who has a faster feat, the calc is still in use though as support for Usopp's rating.
 
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Eminiteable said:
Why would you just remove it?
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I was wondering if it was a mistake that it was on the profile.

Eminiteable said:
It's still being used then, it just because most characters scale to Nami who has a faster feat, the calc is still in use thiugh as support for Usopp's rating.
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Then add the calcs to the Calc list, it's hard enough following scaling chains, and now there are more calcs on profiles, without them being listed?
 
Dark_Soul20189 said:
Then add the calcs to the Calc list, it's hard enough following scaling chains, and now there are more calcs on profiles, without them being listed?
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The verse is under constant revisions so it's not surprising that through those revisions someone missed a calc from 2018. Feel free to add it to the calc list since you noticed it.
 
Makai641001 said:
Hello everyone, why does Akainu scale his Magma to Lightning heat already ?
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Stated to have the highest offensive power because of the heat and destructive power he can generate with his attacks. He was able capable of burning through Luffy, who could resist the heat of Enel's lightning point blank multiple times. He has various other scaling to folks but that's on his profile.
 
Kachon123 said:
Stated to have the highest offensive power because of the heat and destructive power he can generate with his attacks. He was able capable of burning through Luffy, who could resist the heat of Enel's lightning point blank multiple times. He has various other scaling to folks but that's on his profile.
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The profiles also states that Ener’s lightning varies in power with only his 200 million output being similar to a real lightning (300 millions)

« 1, 5 Million, 10, 20, 30, 50, 60 Million, 100, Max 200 Million Volt Vari (Electrical Discharge): Enel releases various levels of his electric energy, eventually becoming a living body of lightning. The maximum-power attack, 200 Million Volts, is about the same voltage as a usual bolt of lightning. »
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In the accepted CRT i saw this is stated:
Strawhats like Zoro, Sanji, Ussop and Robin can endure Enel's Lightning would scale.
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Sanji
Wyper
Ganfall
Robin
Zoro

They all got cooked by at most 30 million volts and while being on the ground where most of the voltage and Heat disperses.

Regarding Luffy Immunity : scientifically Rubber will be immune to electrical elements because rubber does not have loose electrons like other conductors,
But the lightning will still heat the air around Luffy, so Luffy will still scale from the hot air that is passed by Enel's Lightning.
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The Heat would disperse instantly as the voltage can’t enter and Heat the rubber the only way to burn rubber would be to transmit the voltage to a conductor and use it to burn Luffy.

Which is what Ener did and it worked Luffy was getting burnt pretty bad by only a fraction of electricity heated gold (below 1064 degrees)

Zoro without Haki also can resisted BM's Lightning strike, back up feats.
Killer and Kid who's ate Hera's lightning strike would scale.
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It’s like 800 chapters after Ener.
Zoro and Killer didn’t even no sell it and both seemed to take lots of damage from it.

Ulti can Endure Nami's Lightning would scale.
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Ulti (on the ground + badly damaged)

Big Mom without Haki would Scale to Zeus's Lightning as well.
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Was she ever hit by it ?

I agree that Zoro would barely scale to lightning for being able to fight afterwards and Yonkos may scale to it too but most of these feats that are used are just wrong.

The justification for Akainu being able to burn Marineford Luffy is mid too since he doesn’t resist lightning heat at all

So basically if we follow the CRT:
Kaen Daiko & Ifrit jambe > G5 Luffy with haki > Red Hawk > Dofflamingo > DJ > WB haki > no sells > Akainu Magma > those who scale to lightnings
 
I have gathered evidence for a CRT about Oars, to actually make his speed explanation page good, but something I realized while doing it is that it is absolutely impossible with the current scaling chain...
 
Makai641001 said:
The profiles also states that Ener’s lightning varies in power with only his 200 million output being similar to a real lightning (300 millions)


In the accepted CRT i saw this is stated:

Sanji
Wyper
Ganfall
Robin
Zoro

They all got cooked by at most 30 million volts and while being on the ground where most of the voltage and Heat disperses.


The Heat would disperse instantly as the voltage can’t enter and Heat the rubber the only way to burn rubber would be to transmit the voltage to a conductor and use it to burn Luffy.

Which is what Ener did and it worked Luffy was getting burnt pretty bad by only a fraction of electricity heated gold (below 1064 degrees)


It’s like 800 chapters after Ener.
Zoro and Killer didn’t even no sell it and both seemed to take lots of damage from it.


Ulti (on the ground + badly damaged)


Was she ever hit by it ?

I agree that Zoro would barely scale to lightning for being able to fight afterwards and Yonkos may scale to it too but most of these feats that are used are just wrong.

The justification for Akainu being able to burn Marineford Luffy is mid too since he doesn’t resist lightning heat at all

So basically if we follow the CRT:
Kaen Daiko & Ifrit jambe > G5 Luffy with haki > Red Hawk > Dofflamingo > DJ > WB haki > no sells > Akainu Magma > those who scale to lightnings
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No one reading this😭✌️
 
Makai641001 said:
The profiles also states that Ener’s lightning varies in power with only his 200 million output being similar to a real lightning (300 millions)


In the accepted CRT i saw this is stated:

Sanji
Wyper
Ganfall
Robin
Zoro

They all got cooked by at most 30 million volts and while being on the ground where most of the voltage and Heat disperses.


The Heat would disperse instantly as the voltage can’t enter and Heat the rubber the only way to burn rubber would be to transmit the voltage to a conductor and use it to burn Luffy.

Which is what Ener did and it worked Luffy was getting burnt pretty bad by only a fraction of electricity heated gold (below 1064 degrees)


It’s like 800 chapters after Ener.
Zoro and Killer didn’t even no sell it and both seemed to take lots of damage from it.


Ulti (on the ground + badly damaged)


Was she ever hit by it ?

I agree that Zoro would barely scale to lightning for being able to fight afterwards and Yonkos may scale to it too but most of these feats that are used are just wrong.

The justification for Akainu being able to burn Marineford Luffy is mid too since he doesn’t resist lightning heat at all

So basically if we follow the CRT:
Kaen Daiko & Ifrit jambe > G5 Luffy with haki > Red Hawk > Dofflamingo > DJ > WB haki > no sells > Akainu Magma > those who scale to lightnings
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Makai completely cooked the One Piece fans in this debate. In fact, he not only cooked them, but also ate them for dinner

Congratulations Makai 🙏
 
Kachon123 said:
Fist of love
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Actually no, it's the fire of love like Sanji

Or Garp is half lunarian and half human... And then Dragon is lunarian, skypian and human which in turn made Luffy the way he is now and how he became a perfect candidate for the being the sun god and how he can create flames 🐵, gg... I'm waffling now... WAIT and that is how he will be able to utilize the ETERNAL FLAME 🔥... Ok bye
 
MonkeyOfLife said:
Actually no, it's the fire of love like Sanji

Or Garp is half lunarian and half human... And then Dragon is lunarian, skypian and human which in turn made Luffy the way he is now and how he became a perfect candidate for the being the sun god and how he can create flames 🐵, gg... I'm waffling now... WAIT and that is how he will be able to utilize the ETERNAL FLAME 🔥... Ok bye
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I think it would be a good idea to add a section either under Calculations or Notes, where we have a list of the current accepted multipliers. Both for Speed and AP, it would make it a lot easier to keep track of.
 


Basic reading comprehension should already make people know that if you’re paying attention… both with Lucci and Kizaru, but no. 85% or even more of the fanbase overlook and just use their bias and headcanon instead of looking at or following the facts 😴 just speaking truth.
 
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