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It was deleted because that guy knew he was full of shit when he made that post and also got called out on it by other members lmao.
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One Piece General Discussion: Elbaph
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Every time y'all bring it up somebody using haki before Robin, who trained with literal haki users for 2 years and only learned what haki was and not how to actually use it despite us getting a flashback of Sabo and Koala being worried about her safety after she left them, you just make me want to go to Japan and cuss Oda out in angry Engrish even more.
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FunnyThat's crazy
But nowhere near as funny as Luffy using his Nika God form against the same "Base Lucci" and having an equal haki clash against him.
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I almost forgot, Happy 4th everyone!
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Only reason people deny it is "I-It's LUCCI! That's impossible!" So... agendas
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That's crazy
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Dude, I'm one of the biggest defenders of Lucci's High 5-A/5-C scaling on this site and at least agree with you there. I was just responding to that shit you were saying about Zoro lol.
Did I miss something? Did someone suggest he should be downscaled lower than that or something?
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I've seen some people say he shouldn't even scale to that so I'm very wary of anyone dismissing Lucci's feats
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A character can still be in the same tier range as someone far stronger than them, don't know why people can't comprehend it
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I think people also just don't want to admit that Lucci has good feats like straight up clashing with Gear 5 Luffy
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I think it's just weird because, from the end of the fight (and from Zoro's own words), it seems like he could always just low diff him the moment he gets serious about the fight.
So it feels like Lucci downscaling from Zoro and Luffy is dumb.
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The alternative is him not scaling at all which makes even less sense because then he'd just die in one hit
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Low-diffing someone isn't an automatic ban from being in the same tier though. I could go up to some random healthy guy and low diff them. Sure, I might get arrested, but it's not like that guy isn't normal human level anymore.
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He said the same thing in his Pre-TS fight with Luffy and didn't pass out. So why is this different?
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This is Oda, he's not gonna have Lucci die in one hit. But he did look like a damned zombie after it
Like, I knew he'd lose, and I was praying on his downfall, but this was just crazy to me when I first read it. Dude looked like he was genuinely dying.
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I was actually going to talk about this, earlier. Oden is literally not at all involved, idk why this meme started, Enma is a seperate entity that uses Zoro's own Haki. This is like if they had a meme of Ichigo asking his Zanpakuto for Reiatsu, or Naruto asking his Shadow Clone for Chakra.That's crazy
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Its nowhere near as funny as you actually thinking it was for any other reason then for plot reasonings.
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My favorite of the Big 3 protagonists
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He did pass out. The way he says "A deck on the warship" heavily implies he was passed out and didn't know what happened to him.
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Upscales off Base Luffy
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Seems like he did for a second, but got back up.
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he looks cold asf thoThis is Oda, he's not gonna have Lucci die in one hit. But he did look like a damned zombie after it
Like, I knew he'd lose, and I was praying on his downfall, but this was just crazy to me when I first read it. Dude looked like he was genuinely dying.
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He's in my top 5.
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The fact Lucci is capable of clashing with Gear 5th Luffy proves it was more reasons than "plots reasonings", unless you can prove that Hao Base Luffy could beat Lucci's ass like so many people in this fanbase believes.
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That's because he isn't wearing a shirt.
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His eyes were closed tho
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The literal only reason people started this goofy shit is because anytime Kaido saw Zoro do some shit with Enma, he was like "OdEn'S HAkI?!" so people thought Enma stored up Oden's Haki and Zoro harnessed that (despite the fact that it's never once been said to stockpile Haki lol). So because of Kaido being an Oden glazer, now Zoro keeps getting shat on by this stupid meme.
Kircdaaa
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you misunderstood im adressing the point of ''Luffy using his Nika God form against the same "Base Lucci"
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If it wasn't that, it'd be Ryuma with Shisui.
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I knew what you were talking about lol
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the difference is lucci literally right after he says ''im losing consciousness'' says ''cant hold on'' implying he actually fell unconscious lol.
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Right after he crashes on the ship, Lucci's shown breathing hard and has a dotted speech bubble that has a question mark at the end of it next to his mouth. He clearly wasn't passed out despite his eyes being closed. Luffy's attack only almost knocked him out.
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Kircdaaa
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i dont need to prove it the site proves it lol luffy in base with Acoc is one shotting awakened form lucci
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That doesn't dismiss his feats as valid for scaling imo, "authorial intent" can only go so far and that's why we usually place little emphasis on it outside of direct statementsThis is Oda, he's not gonna have Lucci die in one hit. But he did look like a damned zombie after it
Like, I knew he'd lose, and I was praying on his downfall, but this was just crazy to me when I first read it. Dude looked like he was genuinely dying.
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Lucci also said he was going to fall into ocean because he was losing consciousness pre-timeskip, but he didn't.
Also, there are no panels showing him being directly unconscious after his fight with Luffy. And the next time we see him a short while later in the same chapter, he's back on his feet in his human form like he never lost consciousness.
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