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One Piece General Discussion: Elbaph

MonkeyOfLife said:
No... He was continually spamming lasers, and snakeman was overpowering and outpacing him
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No? What are you talking about lol.

Snakeman Luffy, despite barraging Kizaru with blows was unable to land a single solid hit on him that wasn't either blocked or deflected by his lasers, shown by the fact that Kizaru has zero notable damage during the entire exchange.

this is what it looks like when someone can't react to snakeman. Notice how Kaido is getting repeatedly slammed in the face/sides and has difficulty even fighting back. Something which clearly didn't happen in the fight with Kizaru.
 
The_man_with_the_Midas_touch said:
Snakeman Luffy, despite barraging Kizaru with blows was unable to land a single solid hit on him that wasn't either blocked or deflected by his lasers, shown by the fact that Kizaru has zero notable damage during the entire exchange.
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... Literally got hit on his leg... And says that it's very powerful by kizaru
The_man_with_the_Midas_touch said:
this is what it looks like when someone can't react to snakeman. Notice how Kaido is getting repeatedly slammed in the face/sides and has difficulty even fighting back. Something which clearly didn't happen in the fight with Kizaru.
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There's no way you are jusy straight up lying to me
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Kaido literally counters luffy's attack in a similar range to kizaru

Then attacks faster with longer range by making it accelerate even more
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Then becomes more serious and outpaces Snakeman
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bro still doesn't know what downscale means

Even if I seemingly one shot you with a punch in real life, you still scale relative to me as we are both humans 🐵
 
MonkeyOfLife said:
Kaido literally counters luffy's attack in a similar range to kizaru
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Kaido getting hit several times before being able to counter a SINGLE hit isn't more impressive than Kizaru just flat-out not taking any unguarded hits, dude. Even in that panel Kaido is forced to face tank several hits before he can properly react.

MonkeyOfLife said:
Then becomes more serious and outpaces Snakeman
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"Outpaces" He's using future sight there. The fact that Kaidou felt the need to activate observation haki just to escape from Luffy's barrage shows how much trouble he was having reacting to it normally.

Meanwhile, Kizaru was able to react fast enough dodge Snakemans punch mid-blow, shown by the fact that Snakeman's punch was hitting the area Kizaru was moments before.

MonkeyOfLife said:
... Literally got hit on his leg...
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Kizaru nullified the attack with his knee? Unless you think Kizaru is so durable the hit just didn't do anything to him.
 
The_man_with_the_Midas_touch said:
Meanwhile, Kizaru was able to react fast enough dodge Snakemans punch mid-blow, shown by the fact that Snakeman's punch was hitting the area Kizaru was moments before.
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turning to small light particles to evade and escape is an easy thing to do, and his fully body hasn't even escaped yet seen by the light below luffy's hand and luffy didn't do anything after him escaping
The_man_with_the_Midas_touch said:
Kaido getting hit several times before being able to counter a SINGLE hit isn't more impressive than Kizaru just flat-out not taking any unguarded hits, dude. Even in that panel Kaido is forced to face tank several hits before he can properly react.
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The_man_with_the_Midas_touch said:
Kizaru nullified the attack with his knee? Unless you think Kizaru is so durable the hit just didn't do anything to him.
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It did do alot damage just not much to one shot like bro what? Does luffy has to take of his leg for it to he hit him? Luffy wasn't even using con haki

All of what you are saying literally doesn't matter
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blatant asf showings

Blitzes gear 5 whom gear 5 seemingly blitzed kizaru.
 
MonkeyOfLife said:
turning to small light particles to evade and escape is an easy thing to do, and his fully body hasn't even escaped seen by the light below luffy's hand
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He didn't "turn into small light particles" here. Those light trails are just an aftereffect of his Light-based movements. That's always been the case.

If Those particles still contained Kizaru's body, then he would've gotten hit regardless due to haki.

MonkeyOfLife said:
It did do alot damage just not much to one shot like bro what?
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No? Now you're just saying headcanon. Kizaru showed absolutely no visible damage after fighting Snakeman. No blood, shown bruises on his body, not even dust or scratch marks lol. He wasn't even breathing heavily.

MonkeyOfLife said:
blatant asf
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Idk why your acting like Luffy wasn't tagging Kaido with similar attacks. Like, one instance of Kaido outspeeding Luffy doesn't really change the fact that Gear Fifth was consistently tagging him, as was Luffy in his previous gears.
 
The_man_with_the_Midas_touch said:
He didn't "turn into small light particles" here. Those light trails are just an aftereffect of his Light-based movements. That's always been the case.
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Light trails is only one line of light when there are many clumbed up lights, it's apart of his main body
The_man_with_the_Midas_touch said:
No? Now you're just saying headcanon. Kizaru showed absolutely no visible damage after fighting Snakeman. No blood, shown bruises on his body, not even dust or scratch marks lol. He wasn't even breathing heavily.
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Stated by kizaru it's very powerful and escapes the attack instead of tanking it to his face... Just stop

You don't need to breath heavily from getting damaged... If you bump your toe and damage it, you aren't just going to randomly breath heavily... Wtf is that for an argument
The_man_with_the_Midas_touch said:
Idk why your acting like Luffy wasn't tagging Kaido with similar attacks. Like, one instance of Kaido outspeeding Luffy doesn't really change the fact that Gear Fifth was consistently tagging him, as was Luffy in his previous gears.
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Tagging/=/blitzing.

There's no way you have this little knowledge about fights... Kaido is relative to gear 5 who seemingly blitzed kizaru, that better for you...?

Kaido can also Amp and blitz gear 5.
 
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MonkeyOfLife said:
Light trails is only one line of light when there are many clumbed up lights, it's apart of his main body
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We know for a fact it wasn't part of his main body in that instance tho, we literally see Luffy’s haki punch go through the trail of light, yet not deal any damage to Kizaru itself.

If the mass still contained Kizaru, he would've reverted to base form on impact, just like he did here. Or like he did against Whitebeard where his dispersion was also interrupted.

DaMonkeMan said:
I mean... Do we see Kizaru do something similar to Luffy?
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We don't have any instances of Kizaru directly outspeeding Gear Fifth outside of travel speed, nah. But he wasn't even trying to fight Luffy for most of the arc lol.

Most of Gear Fifth’s attacks were launched in the midst of Kizaru doing something else, or being restrained.
 
The_man_with_the_Midas_touch said:
We know for a fact it wasn't part of his main body in that instance tho, we literally see Luffy’s haki punch go through the trail of light, yet not deal any damage to Kizaru itself.

If the mass still contained Kizaru, he would've reverted to base form on impact, just like he did here. Or like he did against Whitebeard where his dispersion was also interrupted.


We don't have any instances of Kizaru directly outspeeding Gear Fifth outside of travel speed, nah. But he wasn't even trying to fight Luffy for most of the arc lol.

Most of Gear Fifth’s attacks were launched in the midst of Kizaru doing something else, or being restrained.
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True, but, Luffy also wasn't seriously fighting him for a while.
Star Gun is the first time we see Luffy use ACoA and ACoC in G5 since 1049, actually.
 
The_man_with_the_Midas_touch said:
We know for a fact it wasn't part of his main body in that instance tho, we literally see Luffy’s haki punch go through the trail of light, yet not deal any damage to Kizaru itself.
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It didn't go through the trail of light, it's literally under it... His upper body is the first thing to transform and escape as light particles and everything under hasn't yet fully escaped
The_man_with_the_Midas_touch said:
If the mass still contained Kizaru, he would've reverted to base form on impact, just like he did here. Or like he did against Whitebeard where his dispersion was also interrupted.
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Not sure why you bringing this up...
The_man_with_the_Midas_touch said:
We don't have any instances of Kizaru directly outspeeding Gear Fifth outside of travel speed, nah. But he wasn't even trying to fight Luffy for most of the arc lol.

Most of Gear Fifth’s attacks were launched in the midst of Kizaru doing something else, or being restrained.
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Doesn't matter, A casual gear 5 outpaces him mid movement even when he reacts to it, and he still gets completely outpaced mid movement or when he tries to fight with a serious gear 5
 
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Mndks said:
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"Mm, no, this is false. Even though he has the feats to back it up, his title is a lie, because I said so."
"YOOOO ROBIN SAID THE ADMIRALS ARE THE WG'S STRONGEST FIGHTERS IN A PANEL FROM 17 YEARS AGO ADMIRALS > GOROSEI THE ADMIRALS ARE TOP 5 OAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
- Literally every Admiral wanker ever
 
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