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One Piece General Discussion: Elbaph

Popbum said:
I’ve come across someone who said shadow Asgard moria is physically stronger than kaido. 😕
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People wank the fu ck out of him punching Thriller Bark and cracking it, which isn't impressive as Kaidou's Boro Breath made a huge ass hole through the entirety of Onigashima and kept going.
 
Sanji solos
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The_man_with_the_Midas_touch said:
What if, these five character replaced Luffy/Zoro/Kidd/Law/Killer on the rooftop?

Boa Hancock/Lucci/Sanji/Marco/Sabo.

How would they have performed against Big Mom and Kaido?
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Boa is useful due to petrification hax, she can turn Napoleon into a statue
But not sure what else she can do for now
Lucci probably can't hurt Hybrid/Zoan Kaidou or Big Mom, but he could deflect Kaifus and what not.
Sanji also can't hurt Kaidou or Big Mom, but he could probably deflect Kaifus and what not as well.
Marco can negate Boro Breath and Prometheus, so he's a big help.
Sabo is immune to Boro Breath and Prometheus as well
Problem is none of them can hurt the Yonko (at most they can hurt base Kaidou)
 
The_man_with_the_Midas_touch said:
What if, these five character replaced Luffy/Zoro/Kidd/Law/Killer on the rooftop?

Boa Hancock/Lucci/Sanji/Marco/Sabo.

How would they have performed against Big Mom and Kaido?
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These guys are some heavy hitters as well.

Boa can't do much unless her powers work on Homies, but her finger guns might hurt, and Haki Snake would be really funny. However, at her level, being Intermediate with all Haki makes her a genuinely useful combatant. However, unless she Hakiblooms, she doesn't pose as much of a threat as Luffy.

Lucci has the stats to keep up, he's definitely stronger than Post-Udon Luffy, even without his Rokushiki or Haki. Rokugan busts the insides of the target, so it might stun them for a bit, and the regular Rokushiki let him minimize damage taken and maximize damage dealt, as well as amp his mobility. His recovery lets him keep up, and adding in his use of some level of Kenbun, as well as Intermediate Buso, makes him a real threat if unchecked. He's definitely more dangerous than Zoro was.

Sanji is fast and has high mobility. That'd be his thing. He also can put some serious force into those kicks. Diable Jambe and Ifrit Jambe amp his speed and power, burning and possibly even temporarily blinding the opponent with heat and light. His Cybernetics let him resist attacks with his iron body, and speed him up, even making him stronger. They also let him regenerate. He's got Intermediate Kenbun and Buso as well, making him yet another real threat. He's definitely more dangerous than Kid was when he wasn't using his Awakening.

Marco is an interesting case. While inferior he was a threat to the admirals whenever they got locked up in a 1v1. Sure, he takes a lot of hits that punch through him, but that just happens when you're known for having regen, ask any Dragon Ball fan. He's a regenerative beast, and can heal others for support. He can negate flames, has Undying Thistle to amp defense, and uses two types of Haki. Another serious threat. He can perform better than Law when he wasn't using his Awakening.

Finally, Sabo. We know he beats out Killer. I estimate his overall skill with Haki is at least a bit better than Lucci's, and he's an intangible firebender that can only be hit with special techniques and Haki. He also has his own secret move that hits pressure points or something. He's gonna be a serious threat in the beginning when he starts twisting Prometheus and Boro breath so that they hurt each other with their own attacks.

Overall, I doubt they'd win without Awakening any new powers, but if Kaidou went "I'm gonna be the first guy who ever kills all the Straw Hats," he'd be boned.
 
SlendVeny said:
Been playing the One Piece: Romance Dawn game for the 3DS, and Kaidou is lucky this version of the Straw Hats never reached Wano.
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Akainu, in this game, is shown to be visibly covered in burns and bruises after fighting Ace and Luffy, and Sickbeard and Luffy 2v3 the Admirals at one point. The real goat is probably Crocodile, who 1v3s Jinbe, Luffy, and Ivankov at the start of Marineford.
 
SlendVeny said:
Been playing the One Piece: Romance Dawn game for the 3DS, and Kaidou is lucky this version of the Straw Hats never reached Wano.
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Started playing Unlimited Cruise SP as well, and the main game is shit, but the Marineford Episodes mode is a banger. We unironically have Buggy's special moves(pretty much just him smiling then throwing knives) scaling to Mihawk, and he tanks sword slashes from Mihawk even though they hit him. The camera mechanics are kinda ass though, and the gameplay is clunky.
 
"Ace in the hole" and "Fire in the hole" are two phrases that are commonly used in the English language. What is this language trying to tell us?
 
Does this chapter confirm that sanji has the highest heat res outside of akainu in the verse?
Psure nobody has ever been shown negating the heat of a laser in one piece
 
Even snakeman luffy took significant damage from the skull dome lasers, same luffy who could face tank a bolo breath without much trouble.
 
ZKillerz said:
Does this chapter confirm that sanji has the highest heat res outside of akainu in the verse?
Psure nobody has ever been shown negating the heat of a laser in one piece
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I really doubt it. Keep in mind he was still easily pierced by one last chapter.
The Haki and boots just helped him block one this time.
Also we saw Snakeman and G5 do something similar.
ZKillerz said:
Even snakeman luffy took significant damage from the skull dome lasers, same luffy who could face tank a bolo breath without much trouble.
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Bolo Breath did more damage than the laser barrier though
 
Ped2018 said:
Didn't Sanji literally activate his genes in this chapter and that's why he was able to block it?!
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I was thinking that 2 but sanji's boots are capable of withstanding a laser while his body isn't
So the boots heat res is already significantly high so you cant argue its a sanji feat based off him kicking a laser
We'll have to get a more definitive feat of him tanking lasers with his body
 
Ped2018 said:
Didn't Sanji literally activate his genes in this chapter and that's why he was able to block it?!
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He blocked one last chapter, whether it was intentional or not he still did it.
So I don't think it has to do with the Exoskeleton. It's just about Haki.
 
I'm pretty sure Sanji already has among the best heat resistance in the verse regardless. Considering he can withstand his own Ifrit Jambe temperature.

Sanji's Heat Resistance = Ifirt Jambe Heat>Diable Jambe heat>WCI Luffy's Heat Resistance>Akainu's Passive temperature and Enel's Lightning.

I don't know who beats him aside from like...Akainu and Kaidou?
 
The_man_with_the_Midas_touch said:
I'm pretty sure Sanji already has among the best heat resistance in the verse regardless. Considering he can withstand his own Ifrit Jambe temperature.

Sanji's Heat Resistance = Ifirt Jambe Heat>Diable Jambe heat>WCI Luffy's Heat Resistance>Akainu's Passive temperature and Enel's Lightning.

I don't know who beats him aside from like...Akainu and Kaidou?
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Sabo and Ace
Mndks said:
Is there anything special about boots?
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Not sure. Like I said Vegapunk would have mentioned if they're special, but the reasonable explanation is either the boots or Sanji's Haki helped him deflect the laser.
Sanji's Haki is definitely the answer though.
 
She should scale relative to Blackbeard in Haki.
Blackbeard couldn't be moved by Law.
So they should scale above or relative to Law's Haki
 
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