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One Piece General Discussion: Elbaph

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man we where really blind back then. . .
 
Looking back at it, you could Argue that the Energy Steroids, SMILE fruits, The experiment of Gigatification from ceasar AND sulong could be a somewhat vague hint towards G5 or some properties to it? Sulong is a stretch in my opinion but the rest seem plausible.
 
Chianli said:
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Notice how absolutely none of these are even a small hint towards his DF's awakening, a next gear, his fruit having a hidden name or anything that ties directly into Nika until we get to Wano, where it wasn't even foreshadow IMO as Who's Who introduced the concept to us literally 20 or so chapters away from G5.

All you have shown is exactly what I said before but more in detail, Oda knows what he has wrote:

He made Luffy a hero who freed people from tyrannical rulerships and Luffy has been doing it since Koby, then there was Arlong, Alabasta, etc, Oda also used the sun as a symbol of freedom/hope since Skypiea at the very least and the whole idea of bringing a new dawn which I think started post TS, but that's about it.

None of that was ever directly tied to Luffy's power, what he did was simply join these 2 (sun and freedom) traits that have been in the series since forever in a new, more explicit connection to Luffy's character than just symbolism.
 
MonkeyOfLife said:
Nah

Oda definitely had something planned for it,
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That's just a gag moment that he reused with G5 which literally all about having gag moments mid-battle (AKA toon force).
MonkeyOfLife said:
it also wouldn't make any sense for shanks to have such a weak devil fruit or even care to know about the fruit
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What? That's just an illogical argument, first because not all DFs are strong as ****, it's absolutely more likely that you'll get an average/weak one rather than a good and strong DF, second because, as you can see in that same scan, they just literally took it from a random enemy (It's mot even specified to be a WG ship, damn, that's literally a broad statement that he could fill in however he wanted if the need ever appeared).

And "knowing" about the fruit means nothing either, we just had a random character in Sorbet pinpoint exactly which DF Bonney had eaten, DF knowledge simply isn't restrict and for someone like Shanks it absolutely wouldn't be.
MonkeyOfLife said:
I also remember an old translation about after eating the fruit, luffy's personality changed or something
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became happier after eating the fruit
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It doesn't say or even imply his personality changed in the sense of having been strangely modified, Luffy is just literally a kid that was happy he got a super power and it's not even like luffy.

MonkeyOfLife said:
There's alot of hints tho
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Again, y'all need to get the difference between common traits and consistent writing from actual foreshadow.

Damn, this is One Piece, we all know how Oda's foreshadow works and that's not like it.
 
XDragnoir said:
That's just a gag moment that he reused with G5 which literally all about having gag moments mid-battle (AKA toon force).

What? That's just an illogical argument, first because not all DFs are strong as ****, it's absolutely more likely that you'll get an average/weak one rather than a good and strong DF, second because, as you can see in that same scan, they just literally took it from a random enemy (It's mot even specified to be a WG ship, damn, that's literally a broad statement that he could fill in however he wanted if the need ever appeared).

And "knowing" about the fruit means nothing either, we just had a random character in Sorbet pinpoint exactly which DF Bonney had eaten, DF knowledge simply isn't restrict and for someone like Shanks it absolutely wouldn't be.

It doesn't say or even imply his personality changed in the sense of having been strangely modified, Luffy is just literally a kid that was happy he got a super power and it's not even like luffy.


Again, y'all need to get the difference between common traits and consistent writing from actual foreshadow.

Damn, this is One Piece, we all know how Oda's foreshadow works and that's not like it.
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No. Arguing just to argue, you’re basically saying if it isn’t blatantly stated then there’s no proof… which defeats the whole purpose of hints and foreshadowing

The title joyboy also hints at it, to say Oda only planned gear 5 in wano arc is pure cap
 
MonkeyOfLife said:
No. Arguing just to argue, you’re basically saying if it isn’t blatantly stated then there’s no proof… which defeats the whole purpose of hints and foreshadowing

The title joyboy also hints at it, to say Oda only planned gear 5 in wano arc is pure cap
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You failed to understand what I said at every point, nice.
 
SlendVeny said:
I love how Dragon goes "oh yeah, Ivankov and Inazuma went to prison" and Kuma just goes "wow, that's crazy man" and Dragon goes "So how's your daughter btw?"
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To play devil's advocate for a sec, Ivankov did say he could escape at any time, but was waiting for Dragon to do something specific (probably a raid on Mariejois once they got a big enough army or something)
 
XDragnoir said:
Y'all think Saturn will be defeated in this arc or it's more likely for the crew to be defeated and have to escape?
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My hope is that Saturn will be defeated this arc. We're 1100 chapters into the series. It's the appropriate time for one of the Five Elders to be defeated.
 
TheMonkeMan said:

To play devil's advocate for a sec, Ivankov did say he could escape at any time, but was waiting for Dragon to do something specific (probably a raid on Mariejois once they got a big enough army or something)
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Kuma didn't know about any of that shit, and he just went "people do be crazy."
 
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