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One Piece General Discussion: Elbaph
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I used to.
Punk Records (my server) is better than Ohara (former server), which I did like 90% of the work on anyway
I left it behind cuz of the owner but Punk Records has significantly more resources available
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Send link im interested
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I don't know how to DM on fandom so just click on my profile and there's a link there
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If you're interested guys
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Dark King faces against the Pre-TS Fleet Admiral in Marineford
Silvers Rayleigh vs Sengoku The Buddha whos gonna take the victory in this battle? Rayleigh is lets say in Marineford and tries to save Ace but Sengoku gets in his way. • Old Versions are being used • Both are In-Character • No Outside help • No Prep • Starting Distance: 15 Meters...
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Actually, no. Luffy was the one who couldn't do shit.
Look at where the punches are. They're far closer to Kizaru than Luffy, implying that Kizaru was countering literally everything Luffy was throwing at him without breaking a sweat.
Where was he getting overpowered? Kizaru doesn't suggest anything of the sort. Kizaru just leaves to accelerate (something that requires distance), at which point he BFR'd Luffy, and he doesn't even appear to exert himself.
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Guys Kaidou one shot low diffed G5 Luffy he knocked him off Onigashima with a charged up attadck
Let's ignore the fact that Luffy was still conscious and beat him afterwards cause he got knocked off the island by a charged attack
Let's ignore the fact that Luffy was still conscious and beat him afterwards cause he got knocked off the island by a charged attack
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How couldn't he do shit when it was him that landed attacks and kizaru couldn't with his lasers?
again not one attack Landed on luffy, luffy dodged and punched the lasers and punched kizaru's knee... Making him shake like a frail lil cat
Then after, luffy full on went for kizaru while moving past the lasers, when that happened kizaru retreated out of that situation
Just leaves to accelerate
to charge up an attack... Like bro what?
BFR ing luffy doesn't mean shit, the next moment luffy comes back he specifically only mentions getting hurt by the barriers only.
So where is this head canon of kizaru no diffing gear 4 luffy?
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Tell me some of your hot takes
1 Hot Take from me: Lucci > Dragon Kaido
1 Hot Take from me: Lucci > Dragon Kaido
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AP: Lucci showed > AP than Kizaru when looking at both there showings against Sentomaru. Kizaru was shown to be fighting against Luffy on equal footing prior to getting knocked out. Lucci also showed = AP as Ryou G5 Luffy when they sent each other flying in the clash, meaning lucci is able to deal considerable damage to Kaido considering G5 Ryou Luffy is > Red Roc Luffy.
Speed: Non Awakened Hybrid Lucci = Gear 4 Luffy who was continuously blitzing Dragon Kaido. Lucci was also shown to be relative with Zoro in terms of speed considering they are currently going blow for blow. Zoro blitzed Kaido in Hybrid Form.
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I don't think we really even see him attack Luffy or Luffy dodge in that exchange, though.
Maybe the coloured version will clear things up.
Other way round.
Even if that was true, literally no damage is done to Kizaru. If your point is that Luffy wasn't really overwhelmed and didn't take any damage, then it applies to Kizaru as well.
Or he decided to shadow realm Luffy to get to Vegapunk rather than ******* around, which is more likely given that A) these blows were nothing special compared to what Luffy had already used, and B) he shares the same sentiment later.
You were implying that he ran away to charge up because he got overwhelmed. I'm not arguing that he charged up, I'm debating the bullshit you've garnered from that.
Turns out I've been working on a mistranslation. So I'll concede to this point.
I didn't think the Luffy agenda existed until now, since he's already the main character. You've more than proved that it does.
But, on second thought, I will agree that he didn't no-diff him. It was an equal fight.
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There is so much wrong here...
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Him being the MC is like, one of the prime reasons for there to be an agenda for him.
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Based on?
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ur gonna wait for literal years for colored versions of these recent chapters lmfao
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Doffy got worse after the timeskip
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Powerscaling: The strongest person that is weaker than Shanks gets mid diffed by him. He, and those who scale to him, are a cut above the rest.
General: Vivi and Pudding are some of the best written female characters in shonen
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Who?
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If Kaido didn't have Bolo breath then maybe
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Plus he's just got too much endurance and durability
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The only agenda anyone has, is literally you
While it's true my fav character is luffy, never ever would I lie or be biased because of that... I have whitebeard, roger and more above current gear 5 because of all of the provided facts, story, context and everything that's presented to us
notice how you need to ignore shit for your head canon to make sense?
While I'm literally explaining every detail of what happened on that page
At least tho you switched up and said it was an equal fight
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I have no love for Kizaru or hate for Luffy. No agenda here.
I really don't see how I'm ignoring what's happening, especially since I blatantly gave additional scans to substantiate my points, and even addressed some of your own points based on your logic.
You also really didn't go any more in depth on 'explaining every detail' than I did, you just said what you thought happened overall during the fight (like Luffy dodged and Kizaru didn't land a single hit), and didn't even explain exactly why you came to that conclusion most of the time.
We just disagree on what did happen, and we can leave it at that until the anime adapts their fight.
I really don't see how I'm ignoring what's happening, especially since I blatantly gave additional scans to substantiate my points, and even addressed some of your own points based on your logic.
You also really didn't go any more in depth on 'explaining every detail' than I did, you just said what you thought happened overall during the fight (like Luffy dodged and Kizaru didn't land a single hit), and didn't even explain exactly why you came to that conclusion most of the time.
We just disagree on what did happen, and we can leave it at that until the anime adapts their fight.
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And regen, right? Plus his observation isn't shit.
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It's ass but it's still built like a tank
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... No bro, you literally are just ignoring shit or something
I didn't reply to your other comments because it just seems that you are blatantly just arguing to argue, no point in wasting my time then
There's an explosion and a laser behind luffy...
How the f is it the other way around, luffy punched through one of the lasers and hit kizaru's knee shown at the bottom... and the lasers are the ones getting destroyed not luffy's punches so again it can't be the other way around
And again the above reply also debunks "lasers shooting the punches"
It literally makes no sense...
Well, no as we literally see kizaru shaking from the punch and even praising luffy, while there's none of that for kizaru
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Wano/Egghead Robin and most of the Tobiroppo are far stronger than 6-C.
Though I've heard that's not a particularly spicy take.
I just assumed that was from the background, since the Pacifista (whose explosions are huge) were peppering Egghead with blasts.
If he punched through a laser, wouldn't there be some kind of visual effect, particularly showing a star-shaped bit of light around Luffy's arm?
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I don't know
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Shakescaling vs Sweatscaling, who wins?
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Cares
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Well it's not... There's also this laser
I think kizaru and luffy are on top of a cloud... No marines or anything are there yet, only on the bottom island
Like are you not seeing the hit effects? Its on both kizaru's knee and lasers... Same hit effect
The bottom panel has no hit effects which is why I said he full on went for kizaru and ignored the lasers
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I suppose that could be the case, but I'm not seeing anything concrete. So I'll leave it at that.
That's not possible given the next panel.
Edit: Oh, you mean the main cloud. My mistake. Maybe Luffy did dodge a blast, then. I still think it's a bit unclear as of yet.
It only covers a part of the panel space near Luffy's arm, rather than enveloping it and splashing out, so I just assumed it was behind Luffy's arm and didn't score a hit, much like how another blast is directly in front of Luffy's arm at the same time.
Anyway, I'll go over your other points.
I see shake lines, but I just assumed that was because he's balancing on a single leg while in the middle of a firefight. But, if it was a direct hit (not Kizaru intercepting it), I'm pretty sure that Luffy's blow would be more than sufficient to cause him to rock, rather than him actually being damaged.
And fine, let's say the blow did shake him due to damage. That just means he took minimal damage that didn't affect him in the short-term rather than no damage. I'd still call them equals.
Or, Luffy just didn't vocally praise one of his enemies while in the middle of trying to save Vegapunk. He is known to praise his enemies, but he's tends to drop that when he's genuinely mad.
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I mean it's kinda blatant tho but sure
Hmm? .... Shit its late af
...Well bye, I think you now know the context of the situation more at least
