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One Piece General Discussion: Elbaph
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There're two Kizarus, when did he learn the
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Mfs jumped on that typo real quick 
I meant to say Kizaru vs Zoro, lemme fix it.
I meant to say Kizaru vs Zoro, lemme fix it.
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Bro honestly i dont understand what's Kuzan's goal rn to give his Ex Mentor that treat. From saving Robin and being a good guy now he's entrusted to BB so much just from much drinks to go and (kill) Garp? I seriously dont get it.
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Luffy has internal damage that would have completely destroyed the Seraphim.
Zoro has enough cutting power that King considered his attacks a threat with his flames on.
Unless the Seraphim are somehow stronger than King even tho they don't even have haki iirc, we are talking about characters that Luffy and Zoro can easily defeat if they went for the kill.
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Ahhhh aren't the seraphim robots with flame on all the time? King got hit from Lions Song and didnt get any damage.
That was Zoro with ACoC but idk why Luffy doesnt use it vs the Seraphim maybe bc Luffy is always in character using weakest attacks to the stronger forms
Ye you're right they are def not going all out yet lol
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Shishi Sonson didn't have Hao yet IIRC.
Also, I am pretty sure we've seen the Seraphim turn their flames off here and there.
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They turn their flames off and gain speed amp? Idk i dont remember seeing em without flames on
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Me when I’m not a weak human
No one in the strawhats talk about politics… (I’m ready for someone trying to find the 3% of them being half political) one piece is about one piece, finding a treasure
it’s not a politic anime AT ALL… there’s no proof that will convince meIt’s not me having no reading comprehension, it’s me not being weak and evil.
Sad how you can’t understand what I mean. Everything is political tho
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Their flames are only off when they're using their devil fruit powers
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Another reason why the dice dice fruit is a waste for S-Hawk.
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Sanji is so strong he collapsed from a single blunt hit from Zoro
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Did Sanji **** your mom or sumn?
Sanji is so strong he collapsed from a single blunt hit from Zoro
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Nah. I'm just trolling.
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ikr Zoro so strong he needs to hit the area someone got stabbed at to knock them out
Sanji is so strong he collapsed from a single blunt hit from Zoro
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Idk what you're waffling about but I agreeikr Zoro so strong he needs to hit the area someone got stabbed at to knock them out
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I see the point you're attempting to make but the place Zoro hit him seems to be no where near that stab wound.
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They're child clones of the Warlords who aren't equal and S-Snake's kick couldn't break stone so I doubt it.
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Ok, then what about the "fighter" types like S-Shark and S-Hawk being comparable?
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They're all fighters it's just that the source of the fighter is the individual warlord's lineage factor.
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I miss oda's old artstyle
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This would warrant a gap in things such as skill and technique, but stats should literally be the same unless we're assuming vegapunk built them differently
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No, the Seraphim are literally clones of the original seven warlords made into cyborgs. The only commonality between them is their Lunarian DNA and the Pacifista cyborgization granting them the ability to use lasers. Unless you're assuming the seraphim like S-Hawk can destroy mountains soley due to being a pacifista/lunarian you wouldn't assume they all have equal strength (nor is that shown to be the case as shown with S-Snake).
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If S-Bear taking hits from G4th Luffy of all people and Kuma's not noted to be that strong then there's something going on
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That's Lunarian DNA
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You realize that the original seven warlords were also meant to do these exact same things, and yet large power gaps still existed between them. The Seraphim are literal clones of those same seven people, and currently, they're not even fully developed; they're still children, which keeps getting brought up in the story.
They're called "The Strongest Form of Humanity" which is understandable:
- They're clones of the Warlords
- They're Lunarians
- They're Cyborgs
- They're all Devil Fruit users
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Krieg said he was the strongest man.
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The only thing they get from their lineage factor is skill and attack patterns. It doesn't make sense to assume the mihawk seraphim is strong because he has mihawk's regular ass human dna. If this were the truth then S-shark would be the strongest because fishmen are on average 10x stronger than humans due to their Dna.
He's strong because vegapunk designed him to be, just as he did the other seraphim. Literally no reason to assume there's a gap in stats and as others have pointed all the statements of their strength seem to refer to them collectively rather than individually.
He's strong because vegapunk designed him to be, just as he did the other seraphim. Literally no reason to assume there's a gap in stats and as others have pointed all the statements of their strength seem to refer to them collectively rather than individually.
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They are not clones, they are cyborgs with their Dna. Mihawk does not have special Dna. Garp chapter taught us that their strength is not innate, mihawk got to where he is due to training.
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The Pacifista are literally stated to be clones, they're turned into cyborgs.
Him having special DNA does not change the fact that they're clones of the current versions of themselves, that's why in the first place they perform the skills of their current adult counterparts.
No where is that stated, in fact if anything it states that the bloodline element retains the individual's experiences. No one is assuming S-Hawk is strong because he has Mihawk's DNA, we literally see that it's strong based on it's feats that currently no seraphim compares too. And S-hawk isn't weaker than ten times the average human so this isn't relevant.
It's literally been stated with Kuma and the Pacifista that they're as strong as each other.
As I've already said, so far the only things Vegapunk has shown to have designed among the seraphim were cloning the warlords with Lunarian genetics, cyborg bodies, and green blood for devil fruit powers. And I've already covered the statement about them being "The Strongest Form of Humanity".
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Ok but the only thing they retain from their current selves is their skill and general dna which isn't special.
Individual experiences will only grant them the edge in iq and and skill over one another, which is what I said. Yes S-hawk has better feats than the others, but that doesn't mean he's much stronger than the rest unless your suggesting vegapunk built him with special components. His Dna is that of a regular human + lunarian genes and since S-shark has the Dna of a fishman he should be slightly stronger although that's really minimal.
Well we know that kuma at that point had already been cybernetically modified by vegapunk, so his stats are probably similar to the other pacifista due to having the same components.
The only thing the seraphim retain from the warlords are their genes and memories. Their stats most likely come from their components and maybe a little lunarian aswell.
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