One Piece General Discussion: Elbaph

[Eminiteable]

(can he even pierce without haki? )

I don't think so, everytime he used that piercing attack he coated it with haki, like against Raizo and when he prepared to use it against Momo.

 

[Eseseso]

What's the large dark spot on his chest then?

Pressed skin + Buso Haki on the vines.

 

[Sus]

I don't think so, everytime he used that piercing attack he coated it with haki, like against Raizo and when he prepared to use it against Momo.

i mean makes sense
tree veins cant just stab people

 

[Sus]

this is evidence that enma/hao/koh zoro > admiral ap btw

 

[Darkvie123]

Got me talking about One Piece while im in the gym just bc yall lack reading comprehension. Smh

Says the guy who got Queen > Yamato man

 

[Eseseso]

this is evidence that enma/hao/koh zoro > admiral ap btw

I mean, yeah.

1-sword Hao Zoro opened no-Flame King's skin like a tin can when Buso Greenbull couldn't even pierce it.

KoH Zoro one-shot King's suit and sliced it to tatters, when the same suit was unharmed by a Bluebird from Marco

And Enma is Enma

 

[Sus]

I mean, yeah.

1-sword Hao Zoro opened no-Flame King's skin like a tin can when Buso Greenbull couldn't even pierce it.

KoH Zoro one-shot King's suit and sliced it to tatters, when the same suit was unharmed by a Bluebird from Marco

And Enma is Enma

you could say bosu zoro > marco ~ admirals

but the way marco's fruit works makes his ap hard to pinpoint and zoro shouldnt be admiral level yet s

 

[SlendVeny]

you could say bosu zoro > marco ~ admirals

but the way marco's fruit works makes his ap hard to pinpoint and zoro shouldnt be admiral level yet s

Nah, greenbull was casual, he actually soloes Zoro and Mihawk and Gold Roger no diff.

 

[Eseseso]

you could say bosu zoro > marco ~ admirals

but the way marco's fruit works makes his ap hard to pinpoint and zoro shouldnt be admiral level yet s

Well actually, it was Base Zoro who scales above base Marco since it was Base no-Haki Zoro who broke part of King's mask twice, which Marco's knee to da face couldn't do.

So Base Zoro even w/o Haki should honestly be 1 petaton. Assuming the calc is accepted.

 

[Sus]

Well actually, it was Base Zoro who scales above base Marco since it was Base no-Haki Zoro who broke part of King's mask twice, which Marco's knee to da face couldn't do.

So Base Zoro even w/o Haki should honestly be 1 petaton. Assuming the calc is accepted.

base marco doesnt scale to admirals anyway, he only send them flying

 

[RoronoaxRobin]

Yamato vs Zoro and Sanji.

Yamato gets destroyed

Why would you make this match-up? I thought you liked her.

 

[Eseseso]

Yamato gets destroyed

Why would you make this match-up? I thought you liked her.

I was inspired by "Yamato vs Lucci & Kaku", bite me.

 

[Eseseso]

base marco doesnt scale to admirals anyway, he only send them flying

That's still something.

 

[SlendVeny]

I was inspired by "Yamato vs Lucci & Kaku", bite me.

Zoro > Lucci

 

[Sus]

when they clash in the manga, there's small lightning
so zoro used haki

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

Haki can't protect your internals iirc so it wouldn't stop King's insides from being drained.

You don't need hardening to defend against devil fruit attacks, hardening is just using more/stronger version of arm haki

Basically similar reason why law can't just teleport kaido's heart to him


Otherwise don't fully understand what you guys are talking about

 

[RoronoaxRobin]

I was inspired by "Yamato vs Lucci & Kaku", bite me.

Yamato vs. Lucci & Kaku?

 

[Eseseso]

when they clash in the manga, there's small lightning
so zoro used haki

In the panels before and after we don't see Buso Haki, and even then the first time he broke part of King's mask was with no Haki.

 

[Eseseso]

Yamato vs. Lucci & Kaku?

https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/forum/threads/yamato-vs-rob-lucci-kaku.41674/

 

[Eseseso]

Kaku vs Sanji.

 

[RoronoaxRobin]

https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/forum/threads/yamato-vs-rob-lucci-kaku.41674/

I need a password to see that but I understand now lol

 

[SlendVeny]

Kaku vs Sanji.

SanGG

 

[RoronoaxRobin]

Kaku vs Sanji.

If these are the current versions, then Sanji

 

[Eminiteable]

You don't need hardening to defend against devil fruit attacks, hardening is just using more/stronger version of arm haki

Basically similar reason why law can't just teleport kaido's heart to him


Otherwise don't fully understand what you guys are talking about

I'm not talking about hardening specifically here, just buso in general isn't applied to a person's internals. Obviously it can protect against devil fruit users trying to effect their internals, but, say if GB had pierced inside King's body he wouldn't have been able to prevent him from absorbing his nutrients similar to how BM couldn't prevent Law's internal shockwaves if that makes sense.

 

[Eseseso]

I'm not talking about hardening specifically here, just buso in general isn't applied to a person's internals. Obviously it can protect against devil fruit users trying to effect their internals, but, say if GB had pierced inside King's body he wouldn't have been able to prevent him from absorbing his nutrients similar to how BM couldn't prevent Law's internal shockwaves if that makes sense.

Basically this.

If King had been pierced, there's nothing he could have done to prevent his nutrients from getting sucked out like a slushie.

 

[The_man_with_the_Midas_touch]

If these are the current versions, then Sanji

I’d argue Sanji could’ve beaten Kaku in EL to tbh, assuming he’s uninjured.

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

I'm not talking about hardening specifically here, just buso in general isn't applied to a person's internals. Obviously it can protect against devil fruit users trying to effect their internals, but, say if GB had pierced inside King's body he wouldn't have been able to prevent him from absorbing his nutrients similar to how BM couldn't prevent Law's internal shockwaves if that makes sense.

I understand what you mean... But I think hardening is something you can't do inside which is why its harder to protect yourself from internal devil fruit attacks... I mean doffy had many internal attacks by law and yet still could continue even tho he was repairing himself but still

Also what about law? He used his haki to turn back himself into a man... That's an internal devil fruit attack as well

 

[Eseseso]

I understand what you mean... But I think hardening is something you can't do inside which is why its harder to protect yourself from internal devil fruit attacks... I mean doffy had many internal attacks by law and yet still could continue even tho he was repairing himself but still

He needed his DF to repair his organs

 

[Eminiteable]

I understand what you mean... But I think hardening is something you can't do inside which is why its harder to protect yourself from internal devil fruit attacks... I mean doffy had many internal attacks by law and yet still could continue even tho he was repairing himself but still

I think Doffy surviving the Gamma knife was due to pure endurance and as you said remaking what was damaged with his strings rather than haki being involved.

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

He needed his DF to repair his organs

Holy shit why did I not remember that

 

[Kachon123]

Kaku vs Sanji.

Current no exo samji wins, let alone exo sanji.

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

Even doffy's arm haki couldn't fully defend against law... So of course he would get very damaged and would need to repair himself... But still, taking attacks like that and still continue to being able to repair it, is definitely a feat

I mean... Law's teleport can't work on kaido, that alone should tell you that haki defends against internal devil fruit attacks as well

Arm haki is an invisible aura around you, devil fruits attacks will still get blocked by that like kaido and as well is similar to what law did to turn himself back into a guy

Otherwise you guys are saying someone like Magellan one shots shanks or something, Haki is stated to block all devil fruit attacks, does not matter if it's internal or not... It's just will be harder defending against internals as you won't be able to utilize all of your arm haki to defend


Now, bye everyone knows I'm right and I'm currently just debating myself

 

[DaMonkeMan]

Got me talking about One Piece while im in the gym just bc yall lack reading comprehension. Smh

Bro really said

 

[DaMonkeMan]

Current no exo samji wins, let alone exo sanji.

Extremely rare Kachon W.

 

[Fireld]

Even doffy's arm haki couldn't fully defend against law... So of course he would get very damaged and would need to repair himself... But still, taking attacks like that and still continue to being able to repair it, is definitely a feat

I mean... Law's teleport can't work on kaido, that alone should tell you that haki defends against internal devil fruit attacks as well

Arm haki is an invisible aura around you, devil fruits attacks will still get blocked by that like kaido and as well is similar to what law did to turn himself back into a guy

Otherwise you guys are saying someone like Magellan one shots shanks or something, Haki is stated to block all devil fruit attacks, does not matter if it's internal or not... It's just will be harder defending against internals as you won't be able to utilize all of your arm haki to defend


Now, bye everyone knows I'm right and I'm currently just debating myself

Explains why vibration moves that hit your insides like hasshoken or the quake fruit can get blocked by strong haki.

Didn't like a VC say that the Gamma Knife damages the insides and can still work on people with buso?

 

[Kachon123]

Bro really said

Classic. Love that movie

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

Didn't like a VC say that the Gamma Knife damages the insides and can still work on people with buso?

Don't think so? I'll check

 

[RoronoaxRobin]

I’d argue Sanji could’ve beaten Kaku in EL to tbh, assuming he’s uninjured.

I think it would probably go either way with those versions

 

[DaMonkeMan]

I’d argue Sanji could’ve beaten Kaku in EL to tbh, assuming he’s uninjured.

Nah probably not

 

[Kachon123]

Marco loses to Queen