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One Piece General Discussion: Elbaph

Which is stronger: Zoro with just unleashed Enma but no Hao, or Zoro with Hao Infusion but no Enma?

Zoro w/ Enma unleashed fully is equal to Oden, while Zoro w/ only Hao Infusion but no Enma sliced no-Flame Base King (whose skin couldn't be pierced by Greenbull's haki vines) open like a tin can.
imo asura > enma > hao
 
Only thing King has realistically above Oden in stats is Durability only and Attack Speed with Imperial Deep Stake nothing else. AP = Oden, Skill Sword = Oden easily, Intelligence = Oden. King was stupid to turn his flames off vs Zoro instead of outlasting him
 
Yamato is way too overrated.

Her AP gets matches overpowered by Zoro's in close combat, then Sanji would just hit her with a Boeuf Burst Combo, burning her from the inside out.

I really don't think she's surviving a large cut in her torso and her face like Zoro did to King while also having raisin organs.
 
Yamato is way too overrated.

Her AP gets matches overpowered by Zoro's in close combat, then Sanji would just hit her with a Boeuf Burst Combo, burning her from the inside out.

I really don't think she's surviving a large cut in her torso and her face like Zoro did to King while also having raisin organs.
Lmfao.
Don't even have time to say anything about this.
 
King is overrated here and idk why bro is a Zoro victim which Zoro just learned to Unleash Enma with Stamina taxes while Oden could do it casually with Enma. Togen Totsuka is coated with Hao Infusion so Oden one shots King with Togen Totsuka since bro was scared of Hao Infusion Zoro he would be scared of Hao Infusion Oden too its said in SBS 100 that Divine Departure and Togen Totsuka are attacks coated with CoC
 
oden does not have have haoshoku infusion (he should but probably oda didnt plan zoro awakening infusion via enma, because going by zoro's logic, kid oden should have infusion)
 
oden does not have have haoshoku infusion (he should but probably oda didnt plan zoro awakening infusion via enma, because going by zoro's logic, kid oden should have infusion)
Oden is already said to have used Hao Infusion in his Togen Totsuka in SBS 100
 
King is overrated here and idk why bro is a Zoro victim which Zoro just learned to Unleash Enma with Stamina taxes while Oden could do it casually with Enma. Togen Totsuka is coated with Hao Infusion
Oden doesn't have Hao Infusion
so Oden one shots King with Togen Totsuka
Oden can't cut King's flames
since bro was scared of Hao Infusion Zoro
Who had Flame Cutting
he would be scared of Hao Infusion Oden too its said in SBS 100 that Divine Departure and Togen Totsuka are attacks coated with CoC
The only time they're mentioned is him talking to a kindergartener.
 
Enma Unleashed Zoro = Oden

KoH Zoro = Enma + Hao Infusion Zoro > Oden, by a sizable margin.

Zoro wasn't even confident that he could cut flame-on King without KoH, hence why he waited until King had flames off to use an attack with only Hao Infusion, and Flame-On Zoan King ******* ate an Enma attack that sliced Kaido's scales.

Even without flames, Flame-off Zoan King's durability is above its AP, which is above no-Haki Sword King who sliced Hybrid Marco's wing.

Hell, we could probably scale flame-off Zoan King's durability to Imperial Pride Stake since both times he used it were with flames off, so he would've needed to be durable enough to endure the force of Imperial Pride Stake, like how Sanji's durability scales to his Diable Jambe.
 
Sanji having higher durability with his legs not only isn’t (to my knowledge) contradicted by much, but also makes a lot of sense. I’m pretty sure we see Sanji blocking attacks with legs in the past.

plus we know Sanji’s flames ARE limited by what his legs can withstand. Hence why his Germa body can produce hotter flames. So it makes sense his legs can deal with more force than the rest of him-
 
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