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One Piece General Discussion: Elbaph
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WrongIdea21
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Zoro cut Kaido head Off
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I whis Fujitora join the Onigashima Battle and Summoning Onigashima Size Meteors For Opening, that would be Epic.
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Wano arc is going to be lit
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What If Yamato Joined Strawhats And She's Haoshoku Users?
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If he is a T-Rex then yeah Haoshoku would be cool, but Yamato doesn't seem like a Haoshoku user to me.
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Who else want to have in straw hat?? I don't think sanji would posses it
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You forgot bullet and gaban might have had it
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Bullet isn't canon iirc, and i said "at least" exactly because Marco and Gaban may haave it, at least iirc there isn't any info about their haaoshoku.
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Bullet's canon, just the events of the movie aren't
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Kaido, Linlin, Whitebeard
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Agreed, but I guess it wouldn't hurt to assume that they have it
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Imo Kata still beats Kidd, Killer, Law and Zoro currently.
Kidd because he is unimpressive and basically did nothing so far aside from lifting a yonko and punching down Big mom with 0 damage.
Killer because he is going to fight Hawkins and also he only dealt one attack against Kaido.
Law and Zoro both because they aren't fast enough to beat Future Sight. Zoro has a good chance though if he can connect 1 or 2 lethal hits on Kata.
Tbh Kata still wins them 1v1 imo simply because his Awakening + Future Sight pretty much allows him to constantly dodge their attacks and beat them eventually.
Now before people bring up them managing to land hits on FTL Kaido, it wasn't because they are fast enough to do so, it is Kaido's habit where he loves to tank hits and he is big sized, so landing strikes on him isn't really impressive.
Kidd because he is unimpressive and basically did nothing so far aside from lifting a yonko and punching down Big mom with 0 damage.
Killer because he is going to fight Hawkins and also he only dealt one attack against Kaido.
Law and Zoro both because they aren't fast enough to beat Future Sight. Zoro has a good chance though if he can connect 1 or 2 lethal hits on Kata.
Tbh Kata still wins them 1v1 imo simply because his Awakening + Future Sight pretty much allows him to constantly dodge their attacks and beat them eventually.
Now before people bring up them managing to land hits on FTL Kaido, it wasn't because they are fast enough to do so, it is Kaido's habit where he loves to tank hits and he is big sized, so landing strikes on him isn't really impressive.
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He gets dogged
Overpowered her attack and pushed her down.
Took a hit from a newborn Hera which put a hole in Onigashima's Skull
Took a slap from her while exhausted
Negated Kaido's durability
Took an attack from IndraZeus
Took a hit from a newborn Hera which put a hole in Onigashima's Skull
Law intercepted Kaido and hit him in his neck
Can react fast enough to move people out of the way of Kaido's attacks
Zoro can intercept both Linlin and Kaido who's fast enough to beat Future Sight.
Etc
Kata's not doing anything to them
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Zoro, Kid and Law all one-shot him.
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Fourth gear luffy with future sight>>>all worst generation except maybe zoro and Kata was going toe to toe with him so I doubt they can beat him
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He was getting massively Overpowered by Boundman, the same Boundman that did no damage to Base Kaido and was one-shot.
Kid, Law and Zoro all massively outclass that version of Boundman based off the feats Tempest listed above. Stop wanking Katakuri.
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Everybody you just listed scales to (if not above) a serious Base Kaido.
Luffy got dogged by a drunk Base Kaido.
Your point?
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In what way can katakuri beat them? Personally the best way to scale him is above fuji's meteors which is where I have him at 6-C (46 gt). However, Law, Zoro, and Kidd all scale to 6-B. There's literally no way he can beat them, they oneshot him.
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Weren't all of them using hax to some extent tho?
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Kidd overpowered Big mom. Zoro hurt kaido, he wasn't using hax. The only one you can argue using hax was Law, but he wasn't either.
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Kidd used pure slams.
Zoro used pure swordsmanship.
Law's injection shot is AP based
Killer, yes he used hax
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Except from zoro nobody scales to serious base kaido and katakuri dodges all their attacks with future sight
This is a one on one fight not a team based fight
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He has no ap to hurt them you realize that right? He gets hit once, and he's gone, he gets oneshotted. I don't think you realize the difference between his current scaling, and those 3 who scale to 6-B.
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Kidd didn't cause any damage that would make him scale iirc, Injection also didn't cause much, and iirc it was hax based since iirc one of Doffy's resistance feats was against Injection. But Zoro?
"Goken type Swordsmen and those who have reached The pinnacle of Swordsmanship are stated to be capable of cutting any material as long as they will it, whether it be flesh or steel however the full extent to which this can be applied is unknown"
He clearly used it to cut Kaido (and his scales), mainly with Asura.
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Law drew blood from Hybrid Kaido. He scales above base.
Kid overpowered Linlin. Overpowering someone's AP means you exerted the same AP in the opposite direction. Newton's First Law.
Killer has dura neg.
Kata's future sight isn't helping beat someone several times stronger and faster
I know.
One on one, they all whoop Kata.
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When?
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Bro didn't Katakuri match G3rd Luffy?
The same G3rd Luffy who's relative to the tobiroppo?
The same Tobiroppo who's weaker than the Calamities?
The same Calamities who can easily get dogged by Linlin without weapons?
The same Linlin who scales to Kaido while MUCH STRONGER?
The same Kaido who gets hurt by the people listed above?
The same people above you think Kata would beat?
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The same G3rd Luffy who's relative to the tobiroppo?
The same Tobiroppo who's weaker than the Calamities?
The same Calamities who can easily get dogged by Linlin without weapons?
The same Linlin who scales to Kaido while MUCH STRONGER?
The same Kaido who gets hurt by the people listed above?
The same people above you think Kata would beat?
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If she was targeting fodder she wouldn't use fire in her attack.
We don't scale Jinbe to Akainu because he has antifeats.
Akainu has canonically the strongest devil fruit in the series, he'd honestly partially scale.
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When he wasn't using armament coating he said this "gotta unleash this Enma a bit more" when his attack failed to harm Kaido. Enma doesn't grant durability negation or amplify it, it draws out more of the user's haki for stronger attacks. So we know Zoro's feats aren't attributed to durability negation and instead his raw power with Enma.
Thus he scales.
