- 16,135
- 12,114
Just saying, Old Sengoku was pinning Garp in Base
-
This forum is strictly intended to be used by members of the VS Battles wiki. Please only register if you have an autoconfirmed account there, as otherwise your registration will be rejected. If you have already registered once, do not do so again, and contact Antvasima if you encounter any problems.
For instructions regarding the exact procedure to sign up to this forum, please click here. -
We need Patreon donations for this forum to have all of its running costs financially secured.
Community members who help us out will receive badges that give them several different benefits, including the removal of all advertisements in this forum, but donations from non-members are also extremely appreciated.
Please click here for further information, or here to directly visit our Patreon donations page. -
Please click here for information about a large petition to help children in need.
One Piece General Discussion: Elbaph
- Thread starter KingTempest
- Start date
-
- Tags
- one piece
DaMonkeMan
He/Him- 17,854
- 15,286
..Okay lol.
Ped2018
He/Him- 5,058
- 6,127
I mean, that's a opinion alright
- 16,135
- 12,114
And a sizable part of the fight with Shiki was in base too, I believe
DaMonkeMan
He/Him- 17,854
- 15,286
Actually, I don't believe we knew Sengoku's position prior to his introduction in Marineford, so Kong may have been the FA before being promoted and Sengoku was an Admiral.
We know Garp was offered a position as one, so they either didn't have 3 yet, or wanted to replace one with Garp as they found he was stronger and more capable.
Tsuru might have been one too.
We know Garp was offered a position as one, so they either didn't have 3 yet, or wanted to replace one with Garp as they found he was stronger and more capable.
Tsuru might have been one too.
- 4,381
- 1,314
But he is. We all know he's not weaker than Jack or Kiku lol.
We just pretend like he is so we don't break the scaling.
- 13,345
- 22,262
We don't "Pretend" Katakuri isn't at the level of Jack/Kiku/any of the other Wano 6-As
He just simply doesn't have the feats to support it. I don't doubt that if he's reintroduced he'll probably get those feats, but until then we can't just go around claiming he's above [insert character here] off of vibes.
He just simply doesn't have the feats to support it. I don't doubt that if he's reintroduced he'll probably get those feats, but until then we can't just go around claiming he's above [insert character here] off of vibes.
- 16,135
- 12,114
Source? I doubt he's stronger than, say Raizo, and I legitimately believe Raizo to be the weakest H6A(except Old Shiki, of course)
Not how scaling works.
- 4,381
- 1,314
Portrayal doesn’t exist, I know.
emperors and their crews are in a deadlock that’s lasted years yet Kaido’s non commanders solo the Sweet Commanders.
- 13,345
- 22,262
Portrayal is, literally, just vibes. We don't take it as fact, nor should we.
It Introduces needless headcanon and assumption into our profiles, when, instead, we could simply go off of what we actually see happen. Like how it's done in most verses on the site.
- 4,381
- 1,314
I’ve argued with people who have Black Maria over Katakuri this week so I’m kinda tired of the BS.
- 13,345
- 22,262
It ain't our fault Katakuri got powercreeped 
- 4,381
- 1,314
Katakuri is definitely a victim of power creep but people acting like he’s massively below the likes of the Scabbards and Jack are full of it. Ik some of yall don’t believe that here either, I’ve seen some of your tier lists.
- 4,381
- 1,314
Of course the worst people are the ones that put him below the Tobi Roppo.
DaMonkeMan
He/Him- 17,854
- 15,286
- 13,345
- 22,262
I mean personally, I don't believe it was Oda's INTENTION for the scabbards to be capable of one-shotting Katakuri. I just think the way the manga is structured is what indirectly caused Katakuri to be much lower on the power rankings.
It's like I said a few comments ago, I genuinely think that if Oda introduced Kata again he'd probably be H6-A (Or whatever value we're giving them). In the same way that Crocodile, when he was reintroduced, was much stronger than he was in Alabasta to keep up with power creep. But until then his rating is fine as is.
- 13,345
- 22,262
Why is Apoo so low
.
DaMonkeMan
He/Him- 17,854
- 15,286
Not many characters are stupid enough to see his powers and not cover their ears.Why is Apoo so low
Besides Shanks and Kiku cause... Y'know.
- 16,135
- 12,114
Based?
- 4,381
- 1,314
Nah. Don’t give them credit.
- 16,135
- 12,114
How is Chopper below Katakuri? How is X Drake there too?
- 16,135
- 12,114
Hey, I didn't see Katakuri damaging Sanji, amiright?
DaMonkeMan
He/Him- 17,854
- 15,286
- 16,135
- 12,114
He fought Queen though.
DaMonkeMan
He/Him- 17,854
- 15,286
No Haki.
- 16,135
- 12,114
Urouge has no Haki, Shiki has no Haki, Shiryu has no Haki, Prime Moria wasn't using Haki, and the Chad Zunesha? No Haki.
DaMonkeMan
He/Him- 17,854
- 15,286
- 2,368
- 1,197
And? Katakuri is like a ******* hunter compared to the brutal monster point chopper if you think about, he likely would get hurt by his raw power but haki covers that, Speed? haki covers that. Look man, as much as how chopper can really go ham with his df alone, there is a reason why kaido said "haki beats devil fruits" to some extend
- 2,368
- 1,197
Urouge has haki?
DaMonkeMan
He/Him- 17,854
- 15,286
Katakuri can't be touched if you don't have Haki, Seastone, the Yami etc.
- 2,368
- 1,197
chopper will have to pray to somehow get a good raw meaty gut punch without being protected by haki and katakuri will get HURT
- 16,135
- 12,114
We're talking about power though, if we're talking about how hard it is for the average person to defeat them, Akainj would be the highest one. Clearly Katakuri isn't as powerful as someone who fought on par with Queen, that would be absurd.
DaMonkeMan
He/Him- 17,854
- 15,286
- 2,368
- 1,197
chopper barely gave him any damage to queen, yes bleed him a little but the mayority of it got covered eithwe by ancient zoan regen or durability, katakuri is more like a glass cannon than anything else, plus it aint ranked like that likely.
- 16,135
- 12,114
He won't be Canon after what Chopper does to him.
- 2,368
- 1,197
now am thinking if chopper can go toe to toe with machia (a mha character)Kid named speed blitz
- 16,135
- 12,114
Machia roars, All for One atop his head, as Chopper enters Monster Form, his arm instantly chopping through both of them and splitting them in half.
- 16,135
- 12,114
But does Zunesha have Haki?
DaMonkeMan
He/Him- 17,854
- 15,286
