One Piece General Discussion: Elbaph

[Kachon123]

How strong do you think Kalgara and Noland were compared to current day fighters?

I have them around Rooftop Zoro level

 

[DaMonkeMan]

Oh HELL naw.

It's not, which is the funny thing.

Sanji didn't realize Queen was invisible until much later in the fight
Queen and King didn't realize Sanji was invisible
Doffy didn't realize Absalom was invisible
Page One didn't realize Sanji was invisible
Drake and Hawkins didn't realize Sanji was invisible


The same "thumping around" that Osome didn't/couldn't heat?

He's a huge dinosaur how do you NOT hear that?
Osome is a dumbass, she was distracted trying to find her equally dumb pet mouse.
Not even to mention, Queen doesn't start out with Invisibility and only used it to goad Sanji into doing it.

Her strongest downscales from regular Hybrid Kaido. What are you talking about.

Mans reading Two Piece
Meanwhile in One Piece, she's taking continuous attacks from him and easily enduring/tanking it, and returning the favor by slamming him in the ground and drawing blood from him.

It is.

Wtf are you talking about?

 

[Fireld]

You know the funny thing about all this? I recall one time in vs thread iirc, Monke agreed with Kachon on the invisibility hax thingy then said sth about using Shirlew in debates cuz the op invisibility.

 

[DaMonkeMan]

Shiryu is Bogard's hypetool please do not mention him in front of me.
Also Queen barely uses his invisibility like Shiryu does.

 

[Kachon123]

Queen doesn't start out with Invisibility

You can't use Queen's fight with Sanji to try and say what he does and doesn't start out with. The entire fight, he was holding back on using his full power to trick Sanji into believing that he did't have Stealth. Once he decided to actually use it, he went in order of all the Germa abilities before actually using Stealth. In an actual fight, he's not doing that shit.

It makes a lot more sense to assume that he'd just use what he has to win a fight, as Yamato doesn't have any Germa abilities that Queen would want her to use before going all out.

Meanwhile in One Piece, she's taking continuous attacks from him and easily enduring/tanking it,

Continously getting knocked around, bleeding profusely from attacks she tried she blocked which IN HER OWN WORDS she "didn't even come close to doing", dealing less damage to Hybrid Kaido that Zoro's Tatsumaki did.

Wtf are you talking about?

Her ice was getting matched by Hybrid Kaido's Bolo Breath, and she was getting burned by Kazenbo's flames.

 

[Sus]

speaking about kazenbo it pisses me off that his heat is listed as ap

 

[DaMonkeMan]

You can't use Queen's fight with Sanji to try and say what he does and doesn't start out with. The entire fight, he was holding back on using his full power to trick Sanji into believing that he did't have Stealth. Once he decided to actually use it, he went in order of all the Germa abilities before actually using Stealth. In an actual fight, he's not doing that shit.

It makes a lot more sense to assume that he'd just use what he has to win a fight, as Yamato doesn't have any Germa abilities that Queen would want her to use before going all out.

He doesn't use it in character most of the time besides the Sanji fight.
Has he done it against Marco, for example?

Continously getting knocked around, bleeding profusely from attacks she tried she blocked which IN HER OWN WORDS she "didn't even come close to doing", dealing less damage to Hybrid Kaido that Zoro's Tatsumaki did.

Everyone in that sentence scales above Queen, for one, so it wouldn't matter.
For two, she was still hurting Hybrid Kaidou and recovered from his attacks easily after a few minutes.

Her ice was getting matched by Hybrid Kaido's Bolo Breath, and she was getting burned by Kazenbo's flames.

Which iirc scales above Queen's fire..

speaking about kazenbo it pisses me off that his heat is listed as ap

Heat technically is AP just not as much as a punch or something.

 

[Kachon123]

Has he done it against Marco, for example?

He literally fought Marco for half a chapter and went to fight Chopper and the rest of the alliance.

Everyone in that sentence scales above Queen

Wrong.

she was still hurting Hybrid Kaidou

Okay????

Which iirc scales above Queen's fire..

I'm pretty sure we can all agree that Aokiji' ice >~ Yamato's ice.

Aokiji's ice was being melted by Kizaru's lasers. The same thing would happen here.

 

[DaMonkeMan]

This guy is special and not in the good way.

 

[Eseseso]

Sanji is for every woman.

Except Hiyori and Hancock

But if I had to pick, Pudding probably. It's too perfect.

Fair.

 

[DaMonkeMan]

Except Hiyori and Hancock

And Robin, that's Jinbe's girl.

 

[Kachon123]

How strong do you think Kalgara and Noland were compared to current day fighters?

 

[DaMonkeMan]

YC3-2 Ig? Dunno and don't care to be blunt about it..

 

[Eseseso]

And Robin, that's Jinbe's girl.

I'm more of a Robin x Franky guy.

As for Jinbe, I was honestly thinking he'd be good with Reiju, as both want to atone for their pasts (well, in Reiju's case it's her family's past actions), and Jinbe was originally a crusader against slavery while Reiju was controlled/enslaved by her father. I mean, they'll probably never meet in canon, but hypothetically they'd be a good match.

When Sanji finds out, RIP Jinbe.

 

[RoronoaxRobin]

And Robin, that's Jinbe's girl.

No

 

[Kachon123]

I was honestly thinking he'd be good with Reiju

Bro what

 

[Eseseso]

Bro what

I mean either Reiju (aka best girl) or Shyarly.

 

[DaMonkeMan]

I'm more of a Robin x Franky guy.

As for Jinbe, I was honestly thinking he'd be good with Reiju, as both want to atone for their pasts (well, in Reiju's case it's her family's past actions), and Jinbe was originally a crusader against slavery while Reiju was controlled/enslaved by her father. I mean, they'll probably never meet in canon, but hypothetically they'd be a good match.

When Sanji finds out, RIP Jinbe.

I'd act a fool if I had Reiju.
But yeah I guess those are good ships.
Jinbe's alright, Sanji can't hurt him, if he tries then the crew will beat the brakes off him.

 

[Sus]

some of yall (eseseso) should stop shipping

 

[RoronoaxRobin]

...? Untolerated Doffy disrespect

He's lucky CinCameron doesn't post here anymore. They would've had an all-out war over Doffy lol

 

[Eseseso]

I'd act a fool if I had Reiju.

We all would, she is best girl.

But yeah I guess those are good ships.

Thanks

Jinbe's alright, Sanji can't hurt him, if he tries then the crew will beat the brakes off him.

Nah, Luffy would laugh at them fighting since he wouldn't understand what was going on (since he knows nothing about sex).

Zoro would likely intervene, might even defend Jinbe just to spite Sanji.

Nami would just facepalm.

Robin would chuckle and probably say something either morbid or weird.

Brook would make a skeleton joke and say he was jealous of Jinbe in a jesting tone.

Chopper wouldn't understand why Sanji was angry and save Jinbe. Remember he's mentally a child.

Usopp would try to initially intervene but back off when Sanji glares at him.

Franky would congratulate Jinbe.

 

[Fireld]

Chopper wouldn't understand why Sanji was angry and save Jinbe. Remember he's mentally a child.

HE'S A MENANCE!

 

[Tetsucabrah]

Even asking that feels like Big Mom disrespect if we're being fr.

Cause it is tbh

 

[DaMonkeMan]

What about Yamato vs 2-3 Homie BM?

 

[Kachon123]

What about Yamato vs 2-3 Homie BM?

Big Mom still wins.

 

[Tetsucabrah]

speaking about kazenbo it pisses me off that his heat is listed as ap

Kazenbo scaling is definitely weird. I don't think Maha should scale to Yamato.

 

[DaMonkeMan]

Big Mom still wins.

Why?

Kazenbo scaling is definitely weird. I don't think Maha should scale to Yamato.

Same.

 

[Kachon123]

Why?

Because she simply scales higher.

 

[Tetsucabrah]

Big Mom doesn't need homies to beat Yamabro.

 

[DaMonkeMan]

It's like people forget Yamato was boxing with Hybrid Kaidou who scales to BM.

 

[Eseseso]

Yamato beats No-Homie BM, matches 1-3 Homie Big Mom, loses to Bigger Mom.

 

[Tetsucabrah]

It's like people forget Yamato was boxing with Hybrid Kaidou who scales to BM.

It's like actual fights in series don't work the way we do them here.

 

[DaMonkeMan]

It's like actual fights in series don't work the way we do them here.

??

 

[Sus]

Big Mom doesn't need homies to beat Yamabro.

she does

 

[Kachon123]

It's like people forget Yamato was boxing with Hybrid Kaidou who scales to BM.

Yamato downscales from Hybrid Kaido.

 

[Tetsucabrah]

I somehow forgot her sword was a homie. oops

 

[Sus]

kaido vs big mom but he doesnt have a weapon either

 

[DaMonkeMan]

 

[Tetsucabrah]

I still got 0 homie big mom over Yamato, but i'm not in the mood to debate it.
Yamato is one of the most wanked characters in the series and Big Mom is one of the most downplayed.`Both are understandable but are misinterpretations of events.

 

[Sus]

some people still think yamato doesnt scale to kaido?