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You can't backscale them from their strongest technique.
This is like trying to backscale Luffy from Bajrang Gun.
Because they can hurt the God Tiers individually. Like wtf
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One Piece General Discussion: Elbaph
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This is like trying to backscale Luffy from Bajrang Gun.
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Ok that makes sense.
But they still got stomped, so the Scabbard level people are each probably not even half as strong as a yonko-tier person.
It'd be one thing if the scabbard level people could individually go blow for blow and do significant damage individually, but all they did were minor cuts outside of their one combined attack.
And the range of "below 1.5 exatons" is massive. Like, if we put someone like Sanji against a 1.3 exaton character, would we call them equal in power since we don't know exactly how far below 1.5 exatons Sanji is?
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They did not get stomped. They lost and kept getting beaten up. Kaidou was shown to hit them to the ground, then keep hitting them
The scabbards had databook statements saying they could hurt him.
Kiku impaled him.
Denjiro impaled him.
Kawamatsu made him spit buckets of blood.
These guys beat Kaidou's ass and you guys act like they dealt papercuts, then when Zoro cuts a scale or when Yamato leaves a drop of blood, you guys act as if they're the strongest characters in fiction
No, because you use common sense to say "he scales to people who are below this value, decently below this value, probably not 1.1x weaker"
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Fine
Meh, ok.
I blame the Zoro fanboys. Yes, I've done this for Zoro too.
Though I believe I once said that Zoro and Killer stunning Kaido was inferior to what the scabbards did.
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Holy shit.... There are people on TIKTOK saying oda has said black hardening is just visuals for the viewers to see similar to demon slayer
YET NONE OF THEM HAS TOLD ME WHERE THE F ODA SAID THAT
Is that true?
YET NONE OF THEM HAS TOLD ME WHERE THE F ODA SAID THAT
Is that true?
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not true
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Regular Buso can be invisible, but Koka is visible. People wouldn't recognize "Black" blades otherwise because the darkness of the haki wouldn't be seen.
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I WAS SAYING THAT... And they just say... No
oda said otherwise
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Tik Tok is usually composed of stupidity that rivals Twitter's, so don't bother yourself if they won't listenI WAS SAYING THAT... And they just say... No
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But... Bro the spreading of misinfo is insane!!!!
Holy... I can go on tiktok and say haki isn't actually real but an illusion... Oda has said that in the most recent interview and SOMEHOW PEOPLE WILL JUST BELIEVE THAT... Especially if there's others saying it as well
Hunans are badly simple minded and believe everything as long as others are as well
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Ok, let's analyze Pre-Mink Zoro vs Onigashima Sanji.
Base Pre-Mink Zoro is =< Post-Exoskeleton Sanji in AP, as both have taken on scabbard-tier people (Zoro took on Denjiro, Killer, and Base X Drake while Sanji is superior to his previous key that temporarily matched Base King and he also was >= Hybrid Queen with his exoskeleton), although I'll give this one to Sanji for fighting superior Scabbard level people (although Zoro possesses Yonko-level durability even in base pre-mink so he is still more durable).
Buso Pre-Mink Zoro alone wins this for Zoro. He one-shot Killer, something Big Mom's lightning attacks could not do, and his Goken (which is Buso Haki, especially since right before that he'd been using casual Buso against Apoo) manage to do more damage to Apoo than an enraged Base Kid. That puts his Pre-Mink Buso on-par with the Yonko AP, and that's definitely above Sanji's paygrade, muchacho.
As for speed, Zoro was keeping up with Kaido, so get that "Sanji go fast" nonsense out of here.
Honestly, Enma and Asura aren't even needed.
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Wtf, it's real...
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N.. Evermind.... Don't think discussing politics is good, try to talk more of the quote used in real life instead
but 
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1. Zoro vs Marco thread, first of multiple vs threads I'll be shooting out (since now that I'm kinda tired of OP CRT's for the time being I'm switching over to a new "industry")
2. Would it be possible to make a page for some of the following people:
1. Hyogoro
2. The remaining scabbards
3. That guy who served Orochi and matched Raizo
4. Dice from One Piece Gold.
5. The CP0 leader (I really don't think he'll be named anytime soon so I don't think we should wait)
3. I was just thinking, wouldn't it be cool if Kid could make a massive mech just like the one Douglas Bullet made in Stampede?
4. Are there any LS revisions from Wano we need to put in?
2. Would it be possible to make a page for some of the following people:
1. Hyogoro
2. The remaining scabbards
3. That guy who served Orochi and matched Raizo
4. Dice from One Piece Gold.
5. The CP0 leader (I really don't think he'll be named anytime soon so I don't think we should wait)
3. I was just thinking, wouldn't it be cool if Kid could make a massive mech just like the one Douglas Bullet made in Stampede?
4. Are there any LS revisions from Wano we need to put in?
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It would be more EXTRA THICC than even Boa Hancock herself!A̶̡̻͈̩͖͐̿̌̓̀̉̈́̇͆̊̌̄͋̓̿̈́̔̅̋̌̈́̐̄̓̆͠B̷̡̧̢̨̨̧̛̳̣̗̞̰̭̻̻̻͕̲̫̣͖͉̝̤̙͈̙̰̭̝̘̈͌͑̓̂͒̄̐̎̒͂̄̊̓̅̆̉̓̾͗̎̇̿̚ͅͅS̷̢̨̘̹̝̯̯̪̤̳͓̞̞̺͈̦̹̬̰̳̻̳̳̱̣̻̠̝̹̻͝ͅǪ̷̛̮̰̦̣̬̠̺̺̘̹̤̣̑̿̈͗͌͊̓̄̔̈̃̒̅͂͘͘̚͠L̷̡̛̮̊͗̂͊͒͗̒̑͆͗̾̂̍̀̅̾Ų̵͓̗͓̝̺̮̭͎͂̾̽͛͌́̋̊̃̐̎̅͗̑̑͌̍̅͌͊͐͘̕͘͝͝Ṫ̸̨̨̧̧̧̨̩̣͎͙͕̘̹̞̰̹̦̪̪̻̞͓̯̼͍͕̮͇̉͌̀̒̅̎̾́̃͜Ě̷͍́̋̔̏͛̓̊̉͋̉̈́̇͆̄̓̌̏̈̅̒̄̄͘͘L̶̡̛̞̳̘̝̈́͐͗̈͂̈̏̉́͋͗̓͊͑̌̇̆̇̐̐̂̌̉͘̕͜͠͝Ỳ̴̡̢̨͇̗̰̣͎̪̣̖̲̤̱̜̥͚̭̗̙̯̟͖̼̦̜͕̎͐̔̀͝
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I thought of something. If there's a devil fruit about magnetism and gravity, could it be possible to have a Strong and Weak Nuclear force fruit?
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Yo, so I found out this happened: the Defense of Ukraine Twitter quoted Monkey D. Luffy.
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It's real
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Still, pretty cool that they quoted Luffy.
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Of course the one piece is real
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...Of course the one piece is real
Stefano4444
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But can we get much higher?Of course the one piece is real
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So hiiiigh?
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Yes it is possible but they are not going to be devil fruits
Gravity and Electromagnetism are fairly easy to understand the basics of what they do, strong and weak force not so much
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7 kilotons
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Episode 1035 is out:
Apparently 1036 is gonna be filler, judging by the fans' negative reactions to the preview to 1036.
Honestly, I'd kill for some canon filler for Kid's backstory.
Also, it's a shame offscreen filler isn't canon, or Chopper in MP could scale above Base Pre-Exoskeleton Sanji due to breaking out of the hold that would've broken Sanji's bones had he not unlocked his exoskeleton.
Apparently 1036 is gonna be filler, judging by the fans' negative reactions to the preview to 1036.
Honestly, I'd kill for some canon filler for Kid's backstory.
Also, it's a shame offscreen filler isn't canon, or Chopper in MP could scale above Base Pre-Exoskeleton Sanji due to breaking out of the hold that would've broken Sanji's bones had he not unlocked his exoskeleton.
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So I've found proof that Black Maria did use haki in her fight with Robin. When she's putting on her knuckledusters, you can see small black lightning in her right palm as she's infusing them with buso. Plus, you can see how shinier and blacker they look compared to when she put them on to assault Sanji.
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Does the anime support this?
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You mean when she uses them against Sanji? She didn't use any haki on the knuckle dusters in the anime.
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I don't see any lightning there.
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The black string-like things in her right palm, do you see that?
