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There we go.
And it wouldn’t be inconsistent. It would moreso be fixing previous inconsistencies
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One Piece General Discussion: Elbaph
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And it wouldn’t be inconsistent. It would moreso be fixing previous inconsistencies
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If we went up to Oda and asked him who wins between Katakuri and Jack and you referenced a fan wiki to make your point I think he would laugh at you.
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Also Jack has over 5 days worth of stamina. Would that really be an issue
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That's why I said base Kaido, but it still seems a tad weird.
Maybe Kaido and Big Mom lost some strength from 20 years ago.
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Sengoku says Kaido and Big Mom are stronger now than they've ever been iirc.
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The main scaling chain is
Primebeard > Oldbeard > Sickbeard ~ Akainu ~ Hybrid Marco ~ 1 Homie Big Mom ~ Base Kaidou
Honestly I'd put the WB final performance on Akainu a rage induced amp
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No, he says they're stronger than when they were in Rocks
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Doesn't this contradict Oden scaling?
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Nada, cause Oden is just where Kaidou is, then Oden with Haki is where Primebeard is
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Wait so Oden didn’t use Haki vs Kaido?
That’s not what you’re saying right?
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Didn't use Koka in their 1v1, like he did against WB
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Kaido said “Why does their haki resemble Oden’s” when wondering to himself how the Scabbards could hurt him.
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Ryou isn't Koka.
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you know there wasn't only 1 fight between oden and kaidou right?
also, kenbun users can sense strength of haki, even when they aren't using haki
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Again, would create major problems due to his own scaling, Oda's powerscaling is the problem here, not our values.
Katakuri cannot be equal to King and Queen because he is weaker than Luffy G4.
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"Durability: Swiped away Akainu's magma attack with his bare hand with no damage dealt"
Is it refering to this scene? Cause his using his Bisento with Haki, not just his bare hand & this would be better for the AP section.
Is it refering to this scene? Cause his using his Bisento with Haki, not just his bare hand & this would be better for the AP section.
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then it's his bisento, but i see no proof of haki
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Cap…big cap
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Haki was invisible pre-timeskip like when he used it on Aokiji, the Bisento almost treated that magma attack as solid instead of a liquid & it didn't melt of from the heat. Haki grants heat resistance.
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You know Akainu's magma is just ridiculously burning rocks right
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I thought it was melted rocks most of the time
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You remember when Whitebeard flat out caught one of his "meteors" with his bisento?
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That meteor was created after he punched giant iceberg, in that case the magma would be more solid than usual from the cold
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He instantly melted the iceberg then held his fist and shot up dozens of meteors
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When you get a timeframe from the anime, it wasn't done instantly. Also his other attacks & his logia body act more like the fluid type of magma.
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Toei animation and "reasonable time" don't mix tbh
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anime timeframes in general are fodder unless the feat has a large range.
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Toei turns one shots into clashes. Big difference
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toei be making stuff up lol.
correct me if im wrong but i feel like toei made the kat vs luffy and kaido vs luffy(pre udon) fights like 20x longer than in the manga.
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Dragon Kaido vs Luffy is the whole reason that fight was no longer a one-shot by Toei's adaptation
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yeah, i remember in the manga it was like a dozen pages lol.
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In the manga Kaido just ate everything then clubbed Luffy
In the anime we had big ol' fireballs, Luffy tanking a tail and a claw attack, and- Kaioken auras or something. Toei's wild
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Nitoryu Queen soloing Marco
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Do I see the CUBES EFFECT?? He really is built differentKaido and Big Mom: OCEAN'S SOVEREIGNTY
Queen: HAHAHA QUEEN NITORYU
And he's not even using named attacks yet
