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One Piece General Discussion: Elbaph

I didn't make this, but this is Katakuri.

Katakuri:
Base Katakuri
> Base Luffy's durability = Diable Jambe Sanji > Wadatsumi's durability = 2 Gigatons
Mochi Mochi no Mi > Gear Third = 3.98 Gigatons
Edged Mochi > Base Luffy's armament haki = Biscuit Soldiers > Gear Third = 3.98 Gigatons
Awakening > Cracker = Dressrossa Boundman = 4.3 Gigatons

Wano Zoro (pre raid) can one shot opponents equal to his base stats (4.3 Gigatons) with Haki and with Asura he's even higher than that.
 
I didn't make this, but this is Katakuri.

Katakuri:
Base Katakuri
> Base Luffy's durability = Diable Jambe Sanji > Wadatsumi's durability = 2 Gigatons
Mochi Mochi no Mi > Gear Third = 3.98 Gigatons
Edged Mochi > Base Luffy's armament haki = Biscuit Soldiers > Gear Third = 3.98 Gigatons
Awakening > Cracker = Dressrossa Boundman = 4.3 Gigatons

Wano Zoro (pre raid) can one shot opponents equal to his base stats (4.3 Gigatons) with Haki and with Asura he's even higher than that.
It's just a matter of time that every high and mid tier are going to be downgraded to City lvl or lower due to all the recalculations. So nah, 6-C will be gone.

Rip 6-B Luffy
 
It's just a matter of time that every high and mid tier are going to be downgraded to City lvl or lower due to all the recalculations. So nah, 6-C will be gone.

Rip 6-B Luffy
We Still have 6C Fujitora meteor Calc, Scaling to G2+G3 Luffy ~ Page1~Sanji Raid Suit, correct me if I'm wrong
 
We Still have 6C Fujitora meteor Calc, Scaling to G2+G3 Luffy ~ Page1~Sanji Raid Suit, correct me if I'm wrong
Nobody scale to Issho's meteors, not even Doffy's strings.

There is still Jack and Zunesha's scaling, but even that one had get rejected before.
 
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So Issho meteors doesn't even scale to his physical? not scaling to Doffy's thread sounds ridiculous, How can the thread holding Meteor not scale? even though the meteor is cut into 7 pieces.
 
So Issho meteors doesn't even scale to his physical? not scaling to Doffy's thread sounds ridiculous, How can the thread holding Meteor not scale? even though the meteor is cut into 7 pieces.

Trust me, we had revisions on it a while back. Fujitora's meteors wouldn't scale to his physical stats and Doflamingo's birdcage is made of thousands of threads; the impact was spread among all of them and they didn't fully stop the meteor.
 
Fujitora's meteors wouldn't scale to his physical stats
Maybe i will agree this Point
and Doflamingo's birdcage is made of thousands of threads; the impact was spread among all of them and they didn't fully stop the meteor.
Yeah Birdcage is made of Thousands of threads but That was Thousands of Small threads , even Spiderwebs if bigger .
Saying that not Stopping the Meteor sounds really different to the feats has shown, the velocity of the meteor changes and what happens is the meteor is like a glass falling from the table.
 
Re-calced by someone who evidently hates One piece and doesn't seem to be very knowledgeable about it anyway. Not like a normal member can do anything against it...
 
Should i start get worry for Whitebeard and Blackbeard's quake feats get either downplayed even further or be reconsidered as outliers?
 
Should we start get worry of the Whitebeard and Blackbeard's quake feats get either downplayed even further or get dropped by making them outliers?
They're all being downgraded but they're around the same level, so as of now there's no outliers
 
Tier 7???
Wait, you were only comparing Whitebeard to Blackbeard and viceversa? I thought you were comparing them to other feats like Pica's punch.

Anyway, we still have the scaling between Jack and Zunesha that hasn't come to an actual concluded, so Tier 6 for aTop Yonko Commanders its still a possibility.

Also, don't we still have Ace's High 7-A feat of heating up Drum Island with his mere presence?
 
City Block Lvl size Dressrosa?
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Wait, you were only comparing Whitebeard to Blackbeard and viceversa? I thought you were comparing them to other feats like Pica's punch.
Yea that's what I meant. They're the god tiers, they should scale a good value above the others.

Pica's punch is unfortunate but w/e
Anyway, we still have the scaling between Jack and Zunesha that hasn't come to an actual concluded, so Tier 6 for aTop Yonko Commanders its still a possibility.Con
Ultimate stonewalled feat

Everytime we bring it up, it comes to a pause and no one can agree on anything
Also, don't we still have Ace's High 7-A feat of heating up Drum Island with his mere presence?
No one scales to this but Ace and the highest tier characters
 
Unless Zunesha's the size of a basketball player, we can't do shit with him.

It's funny, years prior to his height being revealed people thought he was barely a kilometer tall.

Now he's over 35 kilometers and people don't want him touched.

Don’t we have 7-A call for Oven somewhere? Would that help?
Scales to barely anyone.
 
Speed: At least Massively Hypersonic+, possibly Relativistic+ (Faster than before. Although inferior to Doflamingo with Gear 2nd, Luffy was still able to keep up with him after he had been impaled by Law's Gamma Knife), Relativistic+ with Gear 4th (Boundman blitzed Doflamingo from hundreds of meters away. Outsped Charlotte Cracker's Biscuit Soldiers) | At least Massively Hypersonic+, possibly Relativistic+ (Faster than before), Relativistic+ with Gear 4th (Faster than Charlotte Katakuri, who needed to use his Future Sight to consistently keep up with him in their fight. The longer he stretches his attack with Python in Gear 4th: Snakeman, the faster the attack becomes) | At least Massively Hypersonic+, possibly Relativistic+ (Faster than before), Relativistic+ with Gear 4th (Faster than before)

New speed multiplier? Relativistic+ (faster than before). New speed transformation? Relativistic+ (faster than before), Luffy getting faster and blitzing a light speed user? Relativistic+ (faster than before) Luffy literally moving faster than light and stating it even Oda stating it? Relativistic+ (faster than before)
 
Speed: At least Massively Hypersonic+, possibly Relativistic+ (Faster than before. Although inferior to Doflamingo with Gear 2nd, Luffy was still able to keep up with him after he had been impaled by Law's Gamma Knife), Relativistic+ with Gear 4th (Boundman blitzed Doflamingo from hundreds of meters away. Outsped Charlotte Cracker's Biscuit Soldiers) | At least Massively Hypersonic+, possibly Relativistic+ (Faster than before), Relativistic+ with Gear 4th (Faster than Charlotte Katakuri, who needed to use his Future Sight to consistently keep up with him in their fight. The longer he stretches his attack with Python in Gear 4th: Snakeman, the faster the attack becomes) | At least Massively Hypersonic+, possibly Relativistic+ (Faster than before), Relativistic+ with Gear 4th (Faster than before)

New speed multiplier? Relativistic+ (faster than before). New speed transformation? Relativistic+ (faster than before), Luffy getting faster and blitzing a light speed user? Relativistic+ (faster than before) Luffy literally moving faster than light and stating it even Oda stating it? Relativistic+ (faster than before)
Please don't bring up speed
 
Speed: At least Massively Hypersonic+, possibly Relativistic+ (Faster than before. Although inferior to Doflamingo with Gear 2nd, Luffy was still able to keep up with him after he had been impaled by Law's Gamma Knife), Relativistic+ with Gear 4th (Boundman blitzed Doflamingo from hundreds of meters away. Outsped Charlotte Cracker's Biscuit Soldiers) | At least Massively Hypersonic+, possibly Relativistic+ (Faster than before), Relativistic+ with Gear 4th (Faster than Charlotte Katakuri, who needed to use his Future Sight to consistently keep up with him in their fight. The longer he stretches his attack with Python in Gear 4th: Snakeman, the faster the attack becomes) | At least Massively Hypersonic+, possibly Relativistic+ (Faster than before), Relativistic+ with Gear 4th (Faster than before)

New speed multiplier? Relativistic+ (faster than before). New speed transformation? Relativistic+ (faster than before), Luffy getting faster and blitzing a light speed user? Relativistic+ (faster than before) Luffy literally moving faster than light and stating it even Oda stating it? Relativistic+ (faster than before)
Ya know they will downgrade speed next and will consider Nami's dodging lightning as a Gag feat again and Kalifa reacting to her lightning as an outlier.
 
Ya know they will downgrade speed next and will consider Nami's dodging lightning as a Gag feat again and Kalifa reacting to her lightning as an outlier.
Pasifista light speed laser? You mean lightning speed lasers? Kizaru light speed? But why can we see him move when we watch or read one piece so human speed 🤔
 
Should i start get worry for Whitebeard and Blackbeard's quake feats get either downplayed even further or be reconsidered as outliers?
It's unfortunately still possible... Just like how suddenly Whitebeard's kashin feat was deemed as inaccurate when the Marineford's size was accepted long ago. I'm not surprised at this point, that suddenly most Feats are considered as Outliers or "too high" to fit certain people's narrative of One piece
 
Destroying an island? Mountain lvl... Destroying a country? Large Mountain lvl... Destroying a Continent? Large Mountain lvl+
 
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