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One Piece General Discussion: Elbaph

Recovery rate isn’t stamina. If it isn’t energy exertion or pain & injury tolerance, then it isn’t stamina. Usopp and Nami are that high because of their immense pain and injury tolerance, and Killer has no feats within that caliber, as far as i can recall.

Briefly fighting someone that’s superhuman doesn’t make you superhuman either, we’re not chainscaling this shit.

btw i’ve edited his stamina to Athletic since there’s nothing like Above Average stamina.
Actually comical lmao. Point above outlines most of what I wanted to say however you can't honestly sit here and say fighting for several hours during onigashima having multiple fights along the way and say athletic. and there's plenty of pain and injury tolerance in the examples given where he coughs up blood but still fights. Remove the recovery part from the profile if it's not stamina then.
 
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Actually comical lmao. Point above outlines most of what I wanted to say however you can't honestly sit here and say fighting for several hours during onigashima having multiple fights along the way and say athletic. and there's plenty of pain and injury tolerance in the examples given where he coughs up blood but still fights. Remove the recovery part from the profile if it's not stamina then.
Um so, lemme make this clearer: I’m not objecting to the notion, neither am I supporting the notion that he’s superhuman. I’m just replying to points like, “Oh look, Usopp and Nami are superhuman, so anyone stronger must be too,” “He fought a superhuman, so he must be superhuman too,” or “He healed faster, so he’s superhuman.”

I don’t remember much from Wano; it’s been dead long since I read it, and I don’t follow the anime. If Killer has better feats in the manga that would warrant a higher rating, cool, I’m not against that. If he fought for hours without rest, I can add that as Peak Human to the profile since it’s self evident, that is if someone links the scan of course.
and there's plenty of pain and injury tolerance in the examples given where he coughs up blood but still fights
this is not even-
 
Weevil's profile hasnt been properly updated in over two years. Thats longer than Burgess' profile outdatedness.

We're definitely gonna need a large scale thread after the earthquake calcs are done to update everyone.
 
Recovery rate isn’t stamina. If it isn’t energy exertion or pain & injury tolerance, then it isn’t stamina. Usopp and Nami are that high because of their immense pain and injury tolerance, and Killer has no feats within that caliber, as far as i can recall.

Briefly fighting someone that’s superhuman doesn’t make you superhuman either, we’re not chainscaling this shit.

btw i’ve edited his stamina to Athletic since there’s nothing like Above Average stamina.
If a person with superhuman stamina has his stamina disturbed from something, Killer keeping up with those same disturbances would make him relative

I don't know if such scans exist tho
 
Not only apply the calc but also re-determite who genuinely downscale/scale/upscale from it, as the current scaling need to be revisioned.
I agree. Some characters might get downgraded, probably Chopper. Some might get upgraded, I personally think Prime Roger/Garp should be scaled higher than they currently are.
 
I agree. Some characters might get downgraded, probably Chopper.
Definitely Chopper.

Some might get upgraded, I personally think Prime Roger/Garp should be scaled higher than they currently are.
That may depend on how many of us are willing to be generous rather than conservative when it comes to upscaling.

Personally, to make things easier, we should establish four different categories and then place each character in the one that fits them best.
  • Those who definitely scale to Whitebeard’s world-shaking | Small Planet level (>5.307 Zettatons)
Examples: Old Whitebeard.
  • Those who definitely downscale from Whitebeard’s world-shaking power | Small Planet level (>433 Exatons to ~5.307 Zettatons)
Examples: Base Kaido.
  • Those who definitely upscale above Whitebeard’s world-shaking power | At least Small Planet level (>>5.307 Zettatons)
Examples: Imu.
  • Those who possibly downscale from Whitebeard’s world-shaking power | # (whatever alternative tier as baseline), possibly Small Planet level (~433 Exatons)
Examples: Ace.
 
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Heres the chapter.
Oh… well that’s basically the same one I just shared
I just tested the new scan and it gives a slightly higher number but that could also just be slight differences due to human error.
I believe some panels are like cut out and stuff, which is why there could be differences, otherwise it could be a pixel scaling errors as you said
 
Oh… well that’s basically the same one I just shared

I believe some panels are like cut out and stuff, which is why there could be differences, otherwise it could be a pixel scaling errors as you said
That sucks. I didn't know that, I'll try to make sure the panels are consistent across multiple sources at the very least since I dont have a VIZ subscription.
 
That sucks. I didn't know that, I'll try to make sure the panels are consistent across multiple sources at the very least since I dont have a VIZ subscription.
You can access them for free (on the website where weebs would go to centrally 😂🙈 idk)

But even viz volumes also don’t show the full panels 🙉 so sometimes the raw colored manga shows more for vertical page while viz shows either more horizontally or vertically… With Chinese versions showing the most horizontally

But the official Thailand version shows the most in all directions it seems 🥲 (which I have limited access to) (discounting the RAW RAW pages/panels)
 
You can access them for free (on the website where weebs would go to centrally 😂🙈 idk)

But even viz volumes also don’t show the full panels 🙉 so sometimes the raw colored manga shows more for vertical page while viz shows either more horizontally or vertically… With Chinese versions showing the most horizontally

But the official Thailand version shows the most in all directions it seems 🥲 (which I have limited access to) (discounting the RAW RAW pages/panels)
check discord i sent u sum
 
check discord i sent u sum
Me every time KT calls for me
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Why is Rooftop Gear 3rd Luffy not Moon level? We saw what FEotS Gear 4 did to Kaido which was basically nothing. Rooftop Gear 3rd actually had Kaido admitting to himself he was damaged after he coughed up blood.
 
Why is Rooftop Gear 3rd Luffy not Moon level? We saw what FEotS Gear 4 did to Kaido which was basically nothing. Rooftop Gear 3rd actually had Kaido admitting to himself he was damaged after he coughed up blood.
durability negation + it's was g2nd + g3rd + durability negation + yeah + durability negation
 
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