One Piece General Discussion: Elbaph

[Stefano4444]

ALRIGHT! I made a new CRT for the approval of a new formula for earthquakes on planets larger than Earth. Let us pray for the best.

Nice, assuming it get accepted even if we lowball with .33 end, we still end up with the results within the Exatons range.

(6)+6.399+1.33×log10((2,476,085÷110)×((2×π)÷360)) = 15.8493

10^(1.5×(15.8493)+4.8) = 3.74929834e+28 Joules = 8.96096046 Exatons of TNT aka Multi-Continent level.

 

[EtherealCrater]

Nice, assuming it get accepted even if we lowball with .33 end, we still end up with the results within the Exatons range.

(6)+6.399+1.33×log10((2,476,085÷110)×((2×π)÷360)) = 15.8493

10^(1.5×(15.8493)+4.8) = 3.74929834e+29 Joules = 8.96096046 Exatons of TNT aka Multi-Continent level.

Honestly, using any value below 1.66 doesn't make much sense as all evidence point towards a value of ≥1.66 I'd be surprised if we come to an exact value above 1.66, I'm just fine with using the original value.

 

[EtherealCrater]

Would we be able to get a reasonable LS value for Luffy using the method done here for Star and Stripe?

 

[KingTempest]

Would we be able to get a reasonable LS value for Luffy using the method done here for Star and Stripe?

This method is currently being removed

 

[Viott]

This method is currently being removed

Why?

 

[KingTempest]

Why?

Expanding the Lifting Strength page

This is the current content of the Lifting Strength page: Lifting Strength is defined as the mass that an individual can lift on Earth. In other words, it measures the amount of upward force a character can produce. As such, pushing and pulling feats are also considered part of this statistic...

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[Viott]

Would we be able to get a reasonable LS value for Luffy using the method done here for Star and Stripe?

Does Luffy have a similar feat to this?

 

[EtherealCrater]

Does Luffy have a similar feat to this?

Yea, he does one here but I guess the method is no longer viable.

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

Yea, he does one here but I guess the method is no longer viable.

I believe it would work when Luffy was carrying a whole sack of food and jumped out of the way from a laser but that calc leads to FTL results, so gg

 

[TalkLost6874]

I noticed there wasn't a calc for the vaporization of Lulusia, so I did one. Feedback is appreciated.

If the Enies Lobby hole was created via a similar method aka another usage of an ancient weapon, then couldn't you also do the same calculation but with T being 800 years to get another possible vaporization feat?

 

[KingTempest]

Keyword, if. Since we can’t prove it we aren’t able to use it

 

[TalkLost6874]

Keyword, if. Since we can’t prove it we aren’t able to use it

Of course thats a given, I dont expect this to be used or applied in anything. I only said it because I know he did a potential destruction of Alabasta calc, so why not for Enies Lobby. Especially when we might get more context later on and then it might be applicable.

Also bro just wanted to point out incase you missed it, the plate count of 6140 that you got is slightly wrong because of typos I think, like the g should be 124 not 8.9 and Q is off by a 100, etc. The total count I think still balances out at 6185 or so.

 

[KingTempest]

Also bro just wanted to point out incase you missed it, the plate count of 6140 that you got is slightly wrong because of typos I think, like the g should be 124 not 8.9 and Q is off by a 100, etc. The total count I think still balances out at 6185 or so.

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[TalkLost6874]

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Its for the OP World plate calculations that you were working on.

 

[KingTempest]

Its for the OP World plate calculations that you were working on.

How did you even see that

 

[TalkLost6874]

How did you even see that

I got these psychic powers you see, I can send parts of my spirit and they fetch me information. Then they show me these visions and thats how I saw it.

Jokes aside I just read it on your page wat u mean.

 

[KingTempest]

-_-

 

[EtherealCrater]

Keyword, if. Since we can’t prove it we aren’t able to use it

Still waiting for a CGM to approve it.

Sigh...

 

[EtherealCrater]

If the Enies Lobby hole was created via a similar method aka another usage of an ancient weapon, then couldn't you also do the same calculation but with T being 800 years to get another possible vaporization feat?

800 years might be a stretch and possibly result in a depth greater than the diameter of the planet, which wouldn't be possible.

 

[TalkLost6874]

800 years might be a stretch and possibly result in a depth greater than the diameter of the planet, which wouldn't be possible.

In the case that the depth becomes too large cant we limit it to the distance from the surface to the core of the planet or a bit above that? That way we can at least get a more accurate value for it.

I mean Enies Lobby for sure hasn't been filled for 2 years. We can do at least that much right?

 

[EtherealCrater]

In the case that the depth becomes too large cant we limit it to the distance from the surface to the core of the planet or a bit above that? That way we can at least get a more accurate value for it.

I mean Enies Lobby for sure hasn't been filled for 2 years. We can do at least that much right?

Let's assume a hole width of 2 km.

That gives an area of 3,141,593 m^2.

Using a velocity of 9.81 m/s.

3,141,593 * 9.81 = 30,819,027.33 m^3/s

30,819,027.33 * 25,246,080,000 = 778,059,629,495,366,400 m^3

Height = Volume/Area

778,059,629,495,366,400/3,141,593 = 247,664,044,800 m = 247,664,044.8 km

Current Blue diameter is 1,576,323.92381 km.

Lets do one for 2 years.

30,819,027.33 * 63,115,200 = 1,945,149,073,738,416 m^3 = 1.945149073738416×10^21 cm^3

1,945,149,073,738,416/3,141,593 = 619,160,112 m = 619,160.112 km

(1.945149073738416×10^21) * (25,700) = 4.999 × 10^25 Joules = 11.95 Petatons of TNT (Multi-Continental)

Possibly higher depending on the width of the hole.

 

[Kachon123]

Lets do one for 2 years.

24 years minimum, as that's when Tom was originally sentenced to be sent to Enies Lobby to be executed.

 

[EtherealCrater]

24 years minimum, as that's when Tom was originally sentenced to be sent to Enies Lobby to be executed.

In that case...

3,141,593 * 9.81 = 30,819,027.33

30,819,027.33 * 757,382,400 = 23,341,788,884,860,990 m^3

23,341,788,884,860,990/3,141,593 = 7,429,921,344 m = 7,429,921.344 km

Again, beyond the diameter of the planet. Damn...

The only way I can see these working if the water isn't in a perfect cylinder, such as underground rivers and caves or possibly being evaporated by the planet's intense heat near the core.

 

[TalkLost6874]

In that case...

3,141,593 * 9.81 = 30,819,027.33

30,819,027.33 * 757,382,400 = 23,341,788,884,860,990 m^3

23,341,788,884,860,990/3,141,593 = 7,429,921,344 m = 7,429,921.344 km

Again, beyond the diameter of the planet. Damn...

The only way I can see these working if the water isn't in a perfect cylinder, such as underground rivers and caves or possibly being evaporated by the planet's intense heat near the core.

Frustrating it seems. Anything higher than 2 years will run into the same issue.

Its still okay since the other effects would increase the total output but still.

 

[EtherealCrater]

I made this for shaking the planet just in case this thread goes through. Better to be prepared than not.

 

[TalkLost6874]

I made this for shaking the planet just in case this thread goes through. Better to be prepared than not.

Agreed Mag 6 is too low, its likely higher than Mag 8 but that should be the minimum. However thread isn't getting traction yet which is the issue.

 

[EtherealCrater]

Agreed Mag 6 is too low, its likely higher than Mag 8 but that should be the minimum. However thread isn't getting traction yet which is the issue.

Just gotta play the waiting game until CGMs decide to look it over.

 

[KingTempest]

I made this for shaking the planet just in case this thread goes through. Better to be prepared than not.

Our biggest support is the worldwide earthquake function as well, but on top of this, I wanted to propose upping the magnitude of Whitebeard's (and Blackbeard's) worldwide quake.
A magnitude 6 earthquake was accepted because that was accepted to be what a "damaging" earthquake would be.
This is a magnitude 6 earthquake.
This is a magnitude 7 earthquake.
A magnitude 7 looks to be a lot closer to the designated yield of said quakes. Mag 6 would be 54.055 Exatons. Mag 7 would be 227.168 Exatons. The value of the Blackbeard feat as a rookie Gura user seems pretty consistent.

Mag 7 is accepted

 

[TalkLost6874]

Mag 7 is accepted

Is that for WB or the MF, or both? Its still too low for WB.

 

[KingTempest]

Is that for WB or the MF, or both? Its still too low for WB.

For Whitebeard. Mag 7 is perfectly fine for a lowball we do not need anything crazy for him

 

[TalkLost6874]

For Whitebeard. Mag 7 is perfectly fine for a lowball we do not need anything crazy for him

I see thanks.

All Im saying is that this will be revised anyway when we start seeing BB actually use his power later, but guess we gotta wait

 

[KingTempest]

I see thanks.

All Im saying is that this will be revised anyway when we start seeing BB actually use his power later, but guess we gotta wait

yeah this is fair

 

[EtherealCrater]

Would we have to create new scaling chains for the values above Mag 6 from here (if accepted), or would the previous ~188 Exatons just be replaced by 5.307 Zettatons (Mag 7 for example) and all the multipliers/scaling remain the same?

Ex: Scabbards scaling to 1/4 of 5.307 Zettatons at 1.3 Zettatons. Instead of ~188 Exatons down to ~47 Exatons.

 

[KingTempest]

Yeah (the latter)

 

[EtherealCrater]

For Whitebeard. Mag 7 is perfectly fine for a lowball we do not need anything crazy for him

What Mag for the Mother Flame do you think is reasonable?

 

[KingTempest]

What Mag for the Mother Flame do you think is reasonable?

i blatantly calced the magnitude for the mother flame it was 11.6868517619

 

[EtherealCrater]

i blatantly calced the magnitude for the mother flame it was 11.6868517619

Isn't that only for the tsunami method?Also, Floxy seems to agree with my reasoning that we should also use the worldwide planet shaking for the MF. The only part he disagreed with is the formula used and the attenuation value.

 

[TalkLost6874]

Isn't that only for the tsunami method?Also, Floxy seems to agree with my reasoning that we should also use the worldwide planet shaking for the MF. The only part he disagreed with is the formula used and the attenuation value.

Shouldn't the MF be greater since it was higher than any in recent history, why assume both are the same?

 

[EtherealCrater]

Shouldn't the MF be greater since it was higher than any in recent history, why assume both are the same?

My assumption is that the one from WB/BB would be a Mag 8 and the one from the MF would be Mag 10. Satisfying both statements of "power to destroy the world" and "No earthquake in recorded history matched the one felt that day."

 

[Viott]

Yea, he does one here but I guess the method is no longer viable.

When I read the comments, the method is still usable. There are just a few exceptions.