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No it isn't. What parallel universe are these feats from
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One Piece General Discussion: Elbaph
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And does it even matter? Sanji defeated Queen in his hybrid form, which is more durable than King with flames off, and how durable is Kaidou in his hybrid form ?, which makes cutting his skin enough to be stronger than knocking Queen out?. It doesn't make any sense, after knowing how durable Queen is, Queen in his Zoan Form Is more durable than Big Mom.
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I'd like to get some of whatever this dude is smoking.
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Sadness
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No proof
More durable than his base, which scales over 1 petatons. The same base that took hits from all Supernovas and clashed with Big Mom using Napoleon. The Big Mom who without Napoleon had Queen shaking in his overalls
No correlation whatsoever. Sanji took a dozen hits to KO off guard Queen. Zoro swung once with regular busoshoku and had Big Mom screaming at Kaido to dodge.
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Hybrid Kaido durability >> Base Kaido Durability > Base Kaido AP >> Issho = 1 petaton
That was not regular Buso, that was Enma partially unleashed.
The @Kachon123 copy.More durable than King and now Big Mom? What copy of One Piece do you have??
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King flames on=base Queen
So you would say that Kaidou without haki=kaidou with haki? Nope, it doesn't work like that.
Nope, not without haki
Read again when they clashed their head, Big Mom took an effect of it
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Read again none of Sanji kicks affected Queen before he started using ifrit jambe
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Based on ******* what, exactly?
Kaido didn't use any Haki to boost his durability the entire fight
Smh
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Marco
Exactly
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Where is this shown?
Last I checked base King was clashing with post drugs santoryu Zoro.
That has nothing to do with anything.
Based on what? Hakiless Whitebeard>Issho's AP. And kaido has the highest battle power confirmed, therefore Hakiless Kaido>Hakiless WB>1PT
No homies.
Off guard.
Unaware of her strength.
Hungry.
And the best Queen did was make her sleep with a smile on her face. There ain't no 'clash', just Queen getting lucky.
And that somwhow still doesn't prove Queen is more durable than king. Flameless King was taking ACoC slashes from Zoro and still fighting. A Weaker Zoro could injure Kaido. An even less serious Zoro made Queen scream for dear life with a missed swing.
Again, you're assuming Queen's more durable than he is.
You're ASSUMING King is less durable than what he's shown.
And you're assuming haki shenanigans that aren't involved in scaling.
Zoro pierced and injured Kaido with raw AP. Sanji didn't. King scales to Zoro, Queen doesn't.
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@SnookB, Zoro didn't use regular Buso against Kaido he used Enma's power
@Tinodesu,
Here are the scaling chains:
760 teraton people (Base X Drake and the Scabbards) < Base Queen < Zoan Queen < Hybrid Queen = Base Pre-Exo Sanji < Diable Jambe < Raid Suit = Base King w/o Sword
1.032 petatons = Zoan marco = King w/sword << Zoan King = Buso Zoro < Hao Zoro >= Imperial Flames + Buso King
@Tinodesu,
Here are the scaling chains:
760 teraton people (Base X Drake and the Scabbards) < Base Queen < Zoan Queen < Hybrid Queen = Base Pre-Exo Sanji < Diable Jambe < Raid Suit = Base King w/o Sword
1.032 petatons = Zoan marco = King w/sword << Zoan King = Buso Zoro < Hao Zoro >= Imperial Flames + Buso King
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Enma's power draws on Zoro's full buso. But I get that it's technically Enma unleashed.
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We are talking about how durable King is, when the flames on his back are off, he got faster but less durable, Zoro needs to wait for King to turn off his flame before launching an attack.
Hakiless Whitebeard got so much wound though, therefore AP ≠ Durability in OP.
Doesn't matter, Queen's head took as much damage as Big Mom's head
CH.1006 confirmed that King with his flames on <= Base Queen, both of them took a casual attack from Marco and it didn't affect Queen much.
AP≠Durability
Hybrid Queen > Zoan Queen > Big Mom > King with flames on and Base Queen > flameless King
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AP≠Dura
Sanji ifrit jambe > Hybrids Queen > Marco casual attack > Base Queen => King with flames on > Zoro with busho+acoc > Zoro with busho
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Rent free.
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Queen>Kaidou everyone!
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Still durable enough to tank CoC infusion Zoro, whereas a weaker Zoro could injure Kaido's body. At some point King had his flame on his back and started blocking and parrying. Zoro literally says King is scared because he knows he'll get injured even with his flame on.
The scaling chain doesn't change. He still took hits that scale over 1PT, and Kaido still scales over him.
There's no opposing force to even damage HIS head. Queen was fine. It's his own technique, he wouldn't use it if he took equal amounts of damage and if he did, we'd know.
Queen had a big ass gash on his face and was screaming in pain. King had barely a scratch on him. Both took attacks yes, but Queen got FAR more damaged.
Zoro's Enma AP=Kaido's dura<Flame on King
The dude took Tatsumaki without a scratch, whereas the same tatsumaki shanked Kaido's scales in Zoan form, where he's meant to be even more durable than base.
Holy god
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Sanji>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Queen fused with King and Kaido> Gol D Roger
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I mean, Pre-mink Buso Zoro scales to 1.032 petatons (due to one-shotting Killer and doing more damage to Apoo than Base Kid did with Goken), but it's definitely not on the same level as Enma.
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Idk whats happening but based take.
Eminiteable
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That's both a Marco and Haki upgrade. They forgor
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OK, thanks for the quick reponses.
Tho what about the homie-related question?
Eminiteable
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I think it was added with this CRT.
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They're soul based creatures. They have unkillable immortality since they're not only without a true body, but you need soul hax to hurt them like Brook did.
So.. I'm assuming it's that. They're immortal unless countered with specific things.
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Still Flames on > Flames off
Still haki > hakiless, AP≠Dura.
Nope, there is blood coming from King after he received that casual attack from Marco, while there is no blood coming from Queen, we are talking about the casual attack here since an attack with a name tends to have a different AP, therefore Queen conditions mostly affected by the first attack from Marco.
Try to punch a wall and see what happens to your hand, since there is no haki used therefore Queen should have taken as much damage as Big Mom.
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That's their immortality not intagibility. Prometheos, Napoleon & other homies don't have immaterial intagibility, only the 2 thunderheads have it for some reason.
Thanks! So i checked the thread, not any discussion about this ability in particular unless i missed sth. Checked the sandbox, it's the same justification as the current page(They're thunder clouds that can turn into lightning). Still looks elemental to me
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And flames off still took hits that could damage Kaido's body while Queen showed nothing comparable.
And that's still an assumption.
Retconned more than likely. Flame on King never got damaged until ACoC or when his flames were off. The anime showed King without a scratch. What everyone assumed was blood might just be rubble.
And what 'no blood'? Queen had 3 massive cuts across his face and spat blood from Phoenix Brand. King was getting kicked around but as far as damage goes we don't know if he took any. Your headcanon blows my mind.
Real physics to fiction isn't exactly a good argument.
How about this
CRT it if you think Sanji's AP>Zoro's, as well as Queen>King and Kaido's durability.
Eminiteable
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Kaidou's high durability at all times is a combination of his natural tough skin and haki, this being enhanced further by his Zoan form's scales.
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It's a fact though in OP.
Seriously?
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Our intangibility page lists intangibility as:
“Intangibility is the ability to pass through things physically. Characters with this ability are simply unaffected by attacks, as they pass through their bodies. This can also allow them to pass through walls and other physical objects.”
For homies like Prometheus, since they have no physical bodies, Attacks simply pass through them.
it’s pretty clear cut, imo. Punching Zues or Prometheus is like trying to touch fire or water vapor.
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So you agree with me that Big Mom's main Homies(minus Napoleon) have elemental intangibility then
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Kaidou's high durability at all times is a combination of his natural tough skin and haki, this being enhanced further by his Zoan form's scales.
Nope you are wrong, and the picture you sent is about Kaidou clashing with G5 Luffy, and it literally shows in Manga that both of them use Haki, what is your point here ?
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Oh wait, I misunderstood what you were claiming lol. Thought you were talking about their intangibility in general.
ignore my comment.
