One Piece Discussion Thread Water Seven

[KobsterHope07]

>Calaca Vs

Ok, then change my vote to the left one. I like how it is showing Luffy in his 'Lucy' form

 

[DragonEmperor23]

8-A brackets when

 

[KobsterHope07]

8-A brackets whe

When revision is done so, I guess. Basically first key Toriko is 515.43 tons, higher via combination (Unknown AP), the 7-C part would have to be restricted, while Arabasta Luffy is 516.3 Tons, higher with Storm attack (650 tons).

 

[The_Calaca]

Considering they are so even in AP the fight would be decided based on skills and abilities.

 

[SuperKamiNappa]

I feel like Storm should count as a combination move.

 

[KobsterHope07]

I definetely have to read Toriko to understand what he is about during his first key as his page doesn't separate his powers and abilities into different keys or I am just to assume he have all of that abilities from the very beginning...

 

[Js250476]

That reminds me maybe Luffys Raigo feat could have a similar rating ( I think it was accepted but unsure)

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Stefano4444/Luffy_Disperse_Raigo

 

[SuperKamiNappa]

I definetely have to read Toriko to understand what he is about during his first key as his page doesn't separate his powers and abilities into different keys or I am just to assume he have all of that skills from the very beginning...

No, Toriko gets new abilties over the course of the series.

 

[DragonEmperor23]

No, he has Mid regen from the first chapter ovo

 

[KobsterHope07]

No, Toriko gets new abilties over the course of the series.

Then his page should reflect that, but it isn't at the moment. I am clueless about Toriko as a whole beside watching that one crossover with DBZxOne PiecexToriko.

 

[DragonEmperor23]

His page is kind of messy. There's a mild CRT ongoing and his page still doesn't say what type of regen he has.

 

[The_Calaca]

I read the first 100 chapters but I forgot to keep reading.

 

[SuperKamiNappa]

Don't blame ya, When Toriko is good it's REAL good. But it gets real slow at times.

 

[Js250476]

I think when I'm all caught up with OP I could try reading some other manga

 

[The_Calaca]

I liked some fights like that with the dude who can take your spine with punches against the guy with like 1000 bones. It was so fun to read that I'm surprised I didn't continued the manga.

 

[Phoenix821]

I've read Toriko completely.

 

[KobsterHope07]

I've read Toriko completely.

Nice, you could be a big help for the future Luffy v Toriko debate as to what skills Toriko possesses in his first key.

 

[Phoenix821]

I'll probably have to reread Toriko.

 

[Js250476]

So interesting thing I found while reading Laws flashback is Doffy uses his birdcage again https://imgur.com/a/I5ZmlAB

Not as big as the Dressrosa one but they treat it and he uses like as just as one of his string techniques quite easily to

 

[KobsterHope07]

Purely my headcanon on the whole Birdcage but I seen many people argue that the birdcage is an asspull and is super op because not even fujitora, a marine admiral could break it. But to me, the truth is, as Fujitora himself says at the end of the arc, his honour and responsibility as an agent of the world governments prevented him from taking any action. In Fujitora's mind, if he did destroy the birdcage, and defeat doflamingo, he would be praised as the hero of the country by the marines and government alike. But Fujitora finds this hypocritical as he and by extension the government have allowed this tyranny to happen and they should not cover up the truth and let it be known that the government made a mistake. If Fujitora did destroy the birdcage, the government would not consider to remove the warlord system, which would allow such tragedies to happen elsewhere, which is what Fujitora wanted to prevent. Of course Fujitora still helped because he wanted to protect the civilians as well, but not completely destroying the birdcage. All of which would eventually lead to Fujitora in Revere planing to end the Shichibukai system once and for all, since have more evidence of its flaws.

The birdcage is criticised as a plot device. I am not here to argue if it was it was not, although I would say that the word plot device means nothing because everything is in essence a plot device or an instrument to further the plot. I simply wanted to address the misconception of the birdcage being unbreakable. Could Oda have done a better job in presenting and clearly stating the birdcages extent? Of course he could! You could argue that the birdcage was there to lengthen he arc and up the drama. Point still stands that it is not too op.

 

[Js250476]

I think the dumbest criticism i've heard is when someone says Dressrosa is an Alabasta clone ( which yeah there are similarities but that's underselling the arc)

 

[The_Calaca]

It's kind of funny. There's a Youtuber who never watched not read One Piece two years ago because of plenty reasons. Then he started because he made a deal with a company that sells the edition in his country, gifting 10 volumes per month if he makes videos about the manga (ofc he didn't make a long ad luckily).

His reviews were great. Part of the spanish community was waiting every month for the new video.

People kept saying to him things like Enies Lobby is the best and Dressrosa is the worst. So he was so hyped for the former but scared of having too high expectations and even then Enies Lobby surprisedcon for good. And when the time to review Dressrosa came he statedthat for plenty le reasons is his favourite arc so far. It's funny because many spanish youtubers like Dressrosa because it's based on Spain but he doesn't. He don't give a damn about it. He liked Fujitora, Doflamingo, Law, the Tontatta. It was the first time he laughed with One Piece with God Usopp.

Dressrosa if not the best is one of the best. IMHO I still think Crocodile is more effective but Doffy is far more relatable and remarkable.

 

[Js250476]

I was so hyped to read the part where Usopp had haki and i was in tears when i found out how he beats Sugar (twice lol)

Edit: im currently on Dressrosa about to finish soon and so far it's been amazing

 

[KobsterHope07]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ut2lIANlUNo -

Another amazing video analysis by Nux Taku on one of the greatest fight in One Piece; Monkey Boi...no, Monkey Man vs Donut Man. And it is also confirmed as well, Rayleigh flashblacks is the Hashirama cells of One Piece. Which is probably why Kaido took down Luffy very, very quickly. If Luffy had gotten that Rayleigh flashback then, Kaido will be in big trouble.

 

[Js250476]

I still need to watch that

 

[FullMetalLamps]

I can't beliebe that people ACTUALLY think that OP characters aren't even bullet timers because of the obvious PIS/outlier "Antifeat" of Luffy being unable to catch up to Gazelleman

 

[Js250476]

Well unfortunately low ends exist for every series

Like those people who believe in Sub bullet level Goku

 

[The_Calaca]

Who even believes that? It's just another proof of "Authors don't do math".

 

[Js250476]

IKR Luffys been reacting to bullets since meeting Zoro

 

[Rin_The_Dragon_Empress]

Not to mention that Luffy literally has on panel feats of moving FTE, setting the ground on fire just by running and out running a tidal wave.

 

[Js250476]

I wonder if people downplay Zoro using that scan where he can't cut though a steel cage

 

[Js250476]

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Rin_The_Dragon_Empress/One_Piece_-_Dressrosa_size

You might find this interesting

 

[The_Calaca]

Oh God.

 

[KobsterHope07]

Oh God.

Zehahahaha!!!

Also, this thread is soon reaching its conclusion of 500...

 

[Js250476]

Fitting end isn't it

 

[Phoenix821]

Time for thread 8 Enies Lobby.

 

[Js250476]

^ yes after that brilliant suggestion I'm gonna name all my OP discussion threads after arcs in order

 

[The_Calaca]

It feels like the revisions will never end.

 

[Js250476]

The revisions want to live

 

[The_Calaca]

Despite the fact that the seventh Arc was Arlong Park's. OP's quantity of arcs is insane.