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Is Permeation permanent? What stops AFO from flying up and just waiting him out?
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One eyed Reaper vs AfO
- Thread starter AzuRizzz
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Yuu can fly as well, besides the scenario is that AFO doesn't even know about yuu
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Like I said he’d sense someone looking at him and then very obviously approaching him also you know just because Yu can fly doesn’t mean he’ll catch AFO since AFO can warp him away or just keep away since speed is equal. Also you didn’t answer my question, can he maintain permeation indefinitely?
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Does Yu’s disintegration even work on people or is it just objects
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As long as he's not passing through shit
Why won't it affect people?
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Because other abilities of his seem to have hard limitations and distinctions, like collapse not working on people. So I’m asking if this particular disintegrate ability works on people as well or is it limited in the same way to just objects.
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So as long as Yu isn’t passing through things Permeation will stay active?
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Wait if permeation only works while he’s passing through things, what stops AFO from turning the entire Colosseum into a crater then just flying above and waiting to snipe Yu? Or just teleporting Yu in front of himself with his Warp Quirk and one shotting him?
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Collapse is environmental destruction
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Yeah, he just gets extremely tired when passing through stuff like walls
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That's not how it works? It's the same as lemillion but without his disadvantages
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Friend this is a 100x worse disadvantage than anything Lemillion deals with. All he does is lose his sight and start falling but he’s so skilled and experienced with it that it doesn’t matter.
You’re telling me Yu is taxing his stamina when he uses this ability, and he’s up against someone that can one shot him in an instant if he’s ever not using this ability.
AFO just spams attacks while easily dodging Yu until his stamina falters, his permeation is a terrible matchup here. Also it doesn’t solve the issue of AFO teleporting him wherever he wants to teleport him. So the instant he’s not intangible he just gets Rivet Stabbed through his head.
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Did you not read this? When passing through solid obstacles like concrete walls he gets tired. Unless AFO is spamming buildings at him then non of what you wrote matters.
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This is going off the charlotte wiki here (given I have no knowledge) but the abilities only been used to pass through walls, and hasn’t been used to pass through attacks, if the ability was so useful for this then he would have used it before in this situation
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Didn't really need to use it considering everyone else in the verse would be tied 10 while he has tier 9 stuffs which includes; forcefields, telekinesis, disintegration, flight, telepathy, environmental destruction, regeneration, pyrokinesis, cryokinesis, precognition, electricity manipulation, mind stuffs etc.
There's absolutely no need to trouble yourself with something that puts you at a disadvantage when you've thousands of other more useful abilities
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Why would he not get tired from other attacks if he gets tired from doing it through solid objects? A rivet stab is a solid object, if he uses it to phase through an attack like that it’s going to tax him based off what we know of the ability.
Unless you’re claiming that phasing through attacks doesn’t tax his stamina? In which case is there any evidence of that?
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So he doesn’t use permeation at all in character? Good to know. Why does that mean using it in this fight not only is his first move, but also won’t result in him losing tons of stamina, as you’re trying to claim.
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Because he gets tired from phasing through walls of concrete with a thickness of about 150-300mm what is a river compared to that?
Anyway none of this matters, the match isn't fair in the first place
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He has used it where it was required. If he needs it here he'll use it, easy as that.
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AFO currently has nothing that would either prevent his powers from being stolen by Yu so if Yu's first move is to use Plunder what does Quirkless Prime OFA go for?
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How does Plunder work?
Is it just magic snap fingers and now AFO's powers are his own?
What happens to the multiple consciousness that exist inside of AFO's Quirks? Considering they're basically the Quirk itself, they come along?
Is it just magic snap fingers and now AFO's powers are his own?
What happens to the multiple consciousness that exist inside of AFO's Quirks? Considering they're basically the Quirk itself, they come along?
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He has to possess you in order to steal your abilities and AFO has sentient quirks. He will literally absorb Yu while Yu is trying to take his powers, and Yu has no defense against sentient powers trying to attack him while he’s possessing someone. Supernatural Willpower let’s him straight up resist possession since his mind is guarded by separate entities, with an entire plane of existence within the mind existing where he can straight fight Yu’s consciousness for control.
AFO, the Quirk, is a virus that would just take over Yu’s mind and turn him into a copy of AFO or just kill him. The man, AFO, doesn’t exactly mean much.
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“150-300mm” are you serious? AFO can spam RIVET STAB, an attack, a stabbing attack, hundreds of times over. That will be far worse than a somewhat thick wall. Look up rivet stab in AFO’s profile and you’ll see his attacks are far wider than 300 mm and he has many many of them.
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by possessing the target for 5 seconds.
He is forced out regardless of what situation and comes back to his body along with the abilities from the target.
No clue whether yuu would take the consciousness along with him or just the abilities (most likely the latter because yu's plunder steals abilities out of the og user's consent and come back with only the ability which is the case with him stealing yusa's spiritualism which has misa's consciousness intact, he only came back with the ability)
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I think people are forgetting why the quirks attacked AFO. They don't just do that by themselves. They did that because of Jirou's heroic spirit or whatever, the quirks attacking Yu shouldn't really play into this since their remants sure as hell don't care to protect AFO. And Supernatural Willpower only allows for a character to do shit they've already done with it, not get new abilities you think he might have. With his SW, I believe he'd stop Yu from doing anything with his body, but AFO has never absorbed a full conciousness before so we have no support for AFO just absorbing Yu. And since Yu's timer ejects him regardless of anything, it doesn't matter especially since AFO himself only took over Shigaraki when he was at his physical worst and unable to do anything really to defend himself. While the original does have AFO's vestige in it, that isn't actually AFO that's just a bit of his conciousness.
So AFO himself, would lose his powers and lose for sure. The power on the other hand isn't going to do too well either, since Yu's body and mind aren't properly built to contain it or the multitude of quirks either that AFO had. Meaning that outright rejection if not death is all that will follow once AFO gets to the new body. So in the end, it looks like both of them just lose.
I'm voting Incon.
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He can force his remnants to fight for him as seen vs Star and Stripe, he does not need someone to instigate it as long as it’s in the vestige world. And how does Yu’s power make him leave “no matter what”? Has he had any interaction with something like this that makes you claim that? Why wouldn’t it encounter resistance from AFO trying to reverse take him over?
Yu does not have Shigaraki’s resistances, so that’s a moot point bringing up Shigaraki. If Yu doesn’t have feats of dealing with anything like this than I see no reason he doesn’t get stomped instantly in the mental space.
And that’s ALSO assuming that Yu can take an unknown amount of powers near instantly with the exact same time periods that he needs to take a single power.
Is he taking only the AFO power or every single quirk in there? Would that not require him to stay for more than 5 seconds per ability within AFO?
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It doesn't work on people he hasn't had prior contact with. So if Yuu and him are just meeting, he can't use Warping to BFR him.
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It worked on Bakugo who he’s never met before.
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Bakugo had been kidnapped several days I believe before the hideout raid.
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Does he count as someone he’s knows sufficiently enough? (this is a joke)
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Pretty much, and speeds are equalized too so yuu can basically speed blitz him with with "fast movement" ability that increases both his physical speed and perception than this base speed. (it's weakness though is that he can barely control his movements but through his time as reaper he is able to keep up with it to some extent along his teleportation and flight ability)
