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One eyed Reaper vs AfO

AFO stands still and laughs as Yuu does nothing to him because AFO is too strong for any of his powers to be even slightly effective. He has no hax that lets him actually hurt or defeat AFO in anyway, while AFO kills him with any attack on top of being far smarter.

Hundreds of meters Wide Air Cannon GG. Best bet for Yuu is probably permeation and hiding forever but idk how in character that would be or how his permeation works.

If he tries to take any Quirk from AFO, AFO will just take all of his abilities first since his Quirk is literally better in every way.

Absolute mismatch
 
Kingofwolves999 said:
AFO stands still and laughs as Yuu does nothing to him because AFO is too strong for any of his powers to be even slightly effective. He has no hax that lets him actually hurt or defeat AFO in anyway, while AFO kills him with any attack on top of being far smarter.

Hundreds of meters Wide Air Cannon GG. Best bet for Yuu is probably permeation and hiding forever but idk how in character that would be or how his permeation works.

If he tries to take any Quirk from AFO, AFO will just take all of his abilities first since his Quirk is literally better in every way.

Absolute mismatch
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Yuu's power looting works through possession though.

Afo needs physical contact
 
Guretodesu said:
Yuu's power looting works through possession though.

Afo needs physical contact
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Ok, he goes into AFO’s head.

He is immediately assaulted by the thousands of different personalities inside of AFO, as well as AFO himself, trying to kill him and subsume him into the mass because AFO itself is a parasite capable of possessing other people and is tailored to fighting other parasites like OFA in a contest of willpower, which Yuu will lose.

Yuu would be walking into AFO’s domain, into AFO’s body, where AFO has even better control over what’s going on by forcing his powers to do what he wants since his powers are actually SENTIENT. He would stomp Yuu even harder if Yuu tries to enter his head.

Yuu’s possession is a death wish.
Guretodesu said:
Permeation pretty much works the same way as mha togata
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Then he can run away and go for a tie cause he’s not winning if he goes for possession or tries to fight.
 
Yuu in this key is apparently going insane somewhat from all the powers he has.

Imagine that ramped up to 11, with every single power having individuality, willpower and hatred towards him, trying to tear his mind to pieces, and you get what AFO is going to do to him if he goes for possession.

Also his possession lasts for 5 seconds so he can’t even do anything to AFO that would be meaningful other than get ganked by all of his Quirks. When possession ends, AFO kills him instantly or just hunts him while he runs with permeation.
 
Kingofwolves999 said:
Ok, he goes into AFO’s head.

He is immediately assaulted by the thousands of different personalities inside of AFO, as well as AFO himself, trying to kill him and subsume him into the mass because AFO itself is a parasite capable of possessing other people and is tailored to fighting other parasites like OFA in a contest of willpower, which Yuu will lose.

Yuu would be walking into AFO’s domain, into AFO’s body, where AFO has even better control over what’s going on by forcing his powers to do what he wants since his powers are actually SENTIENT. He would stomp Yuu even harder if Yuu tries to enter his head.

Yuu’s possession is a death wish.
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There's nothing like that listed (multiple selves) henceforth it can't be used for a valid argument 🗿

You need to make a CRT for that to be added if it's true.
 
Kingofwolves999 said:
Yuu in this key is apparently going insane somewhat from all the powers he has.

Imagine that ramped up to 11, with every single power having individuality, willpower and hatred towards him, trying to tear his mind to pieces, and you get what AFO is going to do to him if he goes for possession.

Also his possession lasts for 5 seconds so he can’t even do anything to AFO that would be meaningful other than get ganked by all of his Quirks. When possession ends, AFO kills him instantly or just hunts him while he runs with permeation.
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You're just wanking AFO now
 
Guretodesu said:
There's nothing like that listed (multiple selves) henceforth it can't be used for a valid argument 🗿

You need to make a CRT for that to be added if it's true.
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Bro that’s literally his power? They’re not multiple selves it’s the thousands of Quirks within him. He used this against New Order when Star tried to destroy him from the inside out. He commands the quirks inside him and can fight things that are trying to take over his mental state. That’s simply a power he has, that’s the entire basis of the AFO vs OFA dynamic that they fight via willpower in the mental world.
Guretodesu said:
You're just wanking AFO now
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“Wanking” Buddy he did everything I just listed on panel vs Star. That’s literally what his Quirk is, how is it wank? He has thousands of Quirks, the Quirk’s are sentient, he controls them, they kill anything that enters his mind that he doesn’t want. Where is the wank.
 
Still an invalid argument until you make a crt about it and get accepted
 
The only limitation to his quirk is that he can’t actually destroy things that he has absorbed, but he absolutely can force something inside his mind to submit. He does this to his Quirks when they try to rebel against him when he fights Endeavor, so he would just beat the shit out of Yuu while he’s in his head and then reverse take him over.
Guretodesu said:
Still an invalid argument until you make a crt about it and get accepted
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Doesn’t even need a crt, but ok
 
Kingofwolves999 said:
The only limitation to his quirk is that he can’t actually destroy things that he has absorbed, but he absolutely can force something inside his mind to submit. He does this to his Quirks when they try to rebel against him when he fights Endeavor, so he would just beat the shit out of Yuu while he’s in his head and then reverse take him over.

Doesn’t even need a crt, but ok
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It does, you can't use any feats or abilities aside what's listed in the profile
 
Afo's profile doesn't have anything like "multiple selves, resistance to mind manipulation/possession" thus makes it invalid.
 
Guretodesu said:
Afo's profile doesn't have anything like "multiple selves, resistance to mind manipulation/possession" thus makes it invalid.
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That is a narrow world view since everything I said is valid and clearly demonstrated on panel. An oversight from the wiki doesn’t = the feats are meaningless or shouldn’t be considered.

If a character breathes fire but the wiki doesn’t label their profile with Fire Manipulation, would you say they can’t breathe fire at all since the wiki hasn’t put the ability in?
 
That's exactly why you make content revisions.

Also that's a really terrible comparison.
 
Guretodesu said:
That's exactly why you make content revisions.

Also that's a really terrible comparison.
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Not really, but sure friend.

Also, your entire premise is incorrect in the first place, since AFO has Supernatural Willpower.

From the page:
“Characters with this ability may be able to resistenormous amounts of pain, act even when unconscious or well beyond what they should be able to endure, resist possession and mind control, affect their environment, or even go against natural phenomena, such as death or the limits imposed by reality.”

AFO has demonstrated both of these, which would even explain why they aren’t listed since the examples are quite blatant and are a result of his willpower. Still an oversight, so I’ll make the CRT anyway when awareness is reached in the general thread.

You satisfied now or what
 
Mb, You should've pointed Super natural will earlier (i missed it) then rather than saying it doesn't need to be made into a crt.

I got confused that part
 
Kingofwolves999 said:
Hmm

So back to the fight, AFO stomps. Heavily unfair.
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I don't really think so.

AfO might be able to attack Yu mentally once he tries but i don't think AfO would be able to break yu easily as he's on the state where he lost Sanity leading him to his Sadistic Reaper personality

Plus Yu's possession lasts for 5 sec, then forcefully brings him back to his body meaning while AfO is dealing with Yu in his mind, the moment Yu entered it

He'll take all of Afo's abilities with him as he returns.

Yu ftw
 
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And i think it's in his character to start with Plunder first because his og goal in the anime was to Loot all the abilities around the world (which he succeeded and now has 10k+ abilities, unfortunately they aren't specified)

And according to op, yu got prior knowledge meaning he knows what he can do, additional with what he will think of with Yu's mind reading
 
AikaSirius said:
I don't really think so.

AfO might be able to attack Yu mentally once he tries but i don't think AfO would be able to break yu easily as he's on the state where he lost Sanity leading him to his Sadistic Reaper personality

Plus Yu's possession lasts for 5 sec, then forcefully brings him back to his body meaning while AfO is dealing with Yu in his mind, the moment Yu entered it

He'll take all of Afo's abilities with him as he returns.

Yu ftw
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Being somewhat insane is not the same as having resistance to being mentally attacked. Yuu ACTUALLY has no reason whatsoever to resist being actively mobbed within his mind, being slightly crazy isn’t going to help that unless he has a specific reason or feat that suggests he does.

For those 5 seconds, AFO isn’t trying to break him, he’s trying to literally eat him and make him one of his quirks. He can forcefully make Yuu stay because he will absorb him and all of his powers while he’s in this mental world. His ability lasts 5 seconds when it’s not being interrupted by a being forcing him to not go back.

“He’ll take all of AFO’s abilities when he returns” that is even worse for him.

1) He’s not taking anything with him since the Quirks are sentient and AFO can absorb his Quirks and control where they go and what they do within his mental world FAR better than what Yuu can do. At best Yuu will cause a slight tug on his Quirks that will get immediately overwritten by AFO’s willpower either kicking Yuu out or devouring Yuu and taking his power instead since he’ll be in AFO’s turf. AFO literally thrives within his mental world, it’s where he’s at his strongest and where Willpower is the only determining factor, Yuu won’t be taking anything back with him unless AFO allows it.

Please read what I just said again. AFO can TAKE QUIRKS while in his mental world. He can literally steal Yuu’s ability away from him when Yuu tries to invade him, and completely assimilate his consciousness. Nothing Yuu has can even somewhat resist that.

Also, does it take 5 seconds to take 1 ability or does he need multiple seconds to take multiple abilities. AFO has thousands of Quirks. And if he takes just the original ability, he will get “All For One” which is the worst possible ability for him to take.

2) let’s say he does take all of AFO’s Quirks. He has now lost the fight.

He now has the AFO parasite inside him, so AFO takes him and his 10k+ abilities over from the since Yuu has no resistance to this of any kind. Yuu just becomes a copy of AFO or dies from AFO devouring his consciousness and taking his body for himself.

Also, for every ability Yuu takes, he loses his memory no? Imagine that on top of his abilities now trying to kill him from the inside with AFO smiling the whole time.

Taking AFO is the worst case scenario, Yuu will die a horrible death if he does.

AikaSirius said:
And i think it's in his character to start with Plunder first because his og goal in the anime was to Loot all the abilities around the world (which he succeeded and now has 10k+ abilities, unfortunately they aren't specified)

And according to op, yu got prior knowledge meaning he knows what he can do, additional with what he will think of with Yu's mind reading
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Then he dies or loses his powers at the start since AFO’s mental resistance/mental world is designed to consume things within it. Yuu has no resistance to this and will get overpowered in seconds.

The idea that he can steal all of AFO’s Quirks is also laughable when AFO can steal them right back in the mental world as well as absorb Yuu. There is nothing Yuu has that can even somewhat delay AFO’s mental world. And even should he take the Quirk “All for One,” he just becomes a meat puppet since the Quirk will take over his body.

If Yuu knows what AFO can do, then he knows he can’t win. Mind Reading is irrelevant since AFO still kills him with a breath while Yuu doesn’t have a single move that can hurt him in return. The best he can do is permeation and run away while reading his mind to know how to dodge properly. And AFO will eventually think he has a Quirk that reads minds or something like Danger Sense that alerts him when he’s going to attack.

Also, how does his mind reading work? From what I just read on the wiki, “Mind Reading” let’s him transmit the thoughts of others to other people, not let him read minds.
 
Kingofwolves999 said:
Being somewhat insane is not the same as having resistance to being mentally attacked. Yuu ACTUALLY has no reason whatsoever to resist being actively mobbed within his mind, being slightly crazy isn’t going to help that unless he has a specific reason or feat that suggests he does.

For those 5 seconds, AFO isn’t trying to break him, he’s trying to literally eat him and make him one of his quirks. He can forcefully make Yuu stay because he will absorb him and all of his powers while he’s in this mental world. His ability lasts 5 seconds when it’s not being interrupted by a being forcing him to not go back.

“He’ll take all of AFO’s abilities when he returns” that is even worse for him.

1) He’s not taking anything with him since the Quirks are sentient and AFO can absorb his Quirks and control where they go and what they do within his mental world FAR better than what Yuu can do. At best Yuu will cause a slight tug on his Quirks that will get immediately overwritten by AFO’s willpower either kicking Yuu out or devouring Yuu and taking his power instead since he’ll be in AFO’s turf. AFO literally thrives within his mental world, it’s where he’s at his strongest and where Willpower is the only determining factor, Yuu won’t be taking anything back with him unless AFO allows it.

Please read what I just said again. AFO can TAKE QUIRKS while in his mental world. He can literally steal Yuu’s ability away from him when Yuu tries to invade him, and completely assimilate his consciousness. Nothing Yuu has can even somewhat resist that.

Also, does it take 5 seconds to take 1 ability or does he need multiple seconds to take multiple abilities. AFO has thousands of Quirks. And if he takes just the original ability, he will get “All For One” which is the worst possible ability for him to take.

2) let’s say he does take all of AFO’s Quirks. He has now lost the fight.

He now has the AFO parasite inside him, so AFO takes him and his 10k+ abilities over from the since Yuu has no resistance to this of any kind. Yuu just becomes a copy of AFO or dies from AFO devouring his consciousness and taking his body for himself.

Also, for every ability Yuu takes, he loses his memory no? Imagine that on top of his abilities now trying to kill him from the inside with AFO smiling the whole time.

Taking AFO is the worst case scenario, Yuu will die a horrible death if he does.


Then he dies or loses his powers at the start since AFO’s mental resistance/mental world is designed to consume things within it. Yuu has no resistance to this and will get overpowered in seconds.

The idea that he can steal all of AFO’s Quirks is also laughable when AFO can steal them right back in the mental world as well as absorb Yuu. There is nothing Yuu has that can even somewhat delay AFO’s mental world. And even should he take the Quirk “All for One,” he just becomes a meat puppet since the Quirk will take over his body.

If Yuu knows what AFO can do, then he knows he can’t win. Mind Reading is irrelevant since AFO still kills him with a breath while Yuu doesn’t have a single move that can hurt him in return. The best he can do is permeation and run away while reading his mind to know how to dodge properly. And AFO will eventually think he has a Quirk that reads minds or something like Danger Sense that alerts him when he’s going to attack.

Also, how does his mind reading work? From what I just read on the wiki, “Mind Reading” let’s him transmit the thoughts of others to other people, not let him read minds.
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No he reads minds. Does AFO resist deconstruction?
 
Tatsumi504 said:
Nothing stops yuu from stacking invisibility with permeation, going up to him and disintegrating him. That's all
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AFO has Infrared vision, unless Yuu can completely delete his heat signal he won’t disappear from that vision.
Search also is a GG if Yuu turns invisible, given that it moniters up to 100 people, and their weaknesses.
the best Yuu can do is run From his inevitable death
 
Acer__ said:
AFO has Infrared vision, unless Yuu can completely delete his heat signal he won’t disappear from that vision.
Search also is a GG if Yuu turns invisible, given that it moniters up to 100 people, and their weaknesses.
the best Yuu can do is run From his inevitable death
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He has permeation. He can leave it active then disintegrate him. GG
 
Tatsumi504 said:
He has permeation. He can leave it active then disintegrate him. GG
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Search.
Weaknesses
He knows the short comings of these abilities, such as disintegrate requiring him to blow on the object or permeation progressively making him more and more tired, for each permeation it requires him to touch the object (Of course this is what the charlotte wiki is telling me, given I know nothing of the verse)
Also his weaknesses section states he’s mentally unstable and cocky, and what are his standard tactics? and unlike AFO who can end the fight in one hit or by sneezing too hard (hyperbole of course), he has a specific win condition.
permeation is also listen as a 1st timeline ability but I have no idea what that means
 
Acer__ said:
Search.
Weaknesses
He knows the short comings of these abilities, such as disintegrate requiring him to blow on the object or permeation progressively making him more and more tired, for each permeation it requires him to touch the object (Of course this is what the charlotte wiki is telling me, given I know nothing of the verse)
Also his weaknesses section states he’s mentally unstable and cocky, and what are his standard tactics? and unlike AFO who can end the fight in one hit or by sneezing too hard (hyperbole of course), he has a specific win condition.
permeation is also listen as a 1st timeline ability but I have no idea what that means
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Yuu with his og mindset always tries to go for the win immediately and utilizes the use of abilities depending on what's the next ability wielder he's going to face, most of the time he just loots immediately though if the wielder is not that dangerous to approach, he leaves causing no commotions
 
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Guretodesu said:
Yuu with his og mindset always tries to go for the win immediately and utilizes the use of abilities depending on what's the next ability wielder he's going to face, most of the time he just loots immediately though if the wielder is not that dangerous to approach, he leaves causing no commotions
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So like AFO cluelessly wandering at Rome like "Hmmm this is some fine architecture" and then Yuu tries to loot him and then all the quirks and Vestige AFO just gank him?
 
Acer__ said:
So like AFO cluelessly wandering at Rome like "Hmmm this is some fine architecture" and then Yuu tries to loot him and then all the quirks and Vestige AFO just gank him?
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He'd use precog before going for looting, see how dangerous he is, then disintegrate him without causing a commotion.

This is the only wincon I see.
 
Kingofwolves999 said:
That is a narrow world view since everything I said is valid and clearly demonstrated on panel. An oversight from the wiki doesn’t = the feats are meaningless or shouldn’t be considered.

If a character breathes fire but the wiki doesn’t label their profile with Fire Manipulation, would you say they can’t breathe fire at all since the wiki hasn’t put the ability in?
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This is really useless even to discuss.

Nothing mentioned in wiki = can't be used in battles. If you want, you can do CRT for that.
 
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Insert_creative_name_here_12 said:
This should be closed AFO stomps. Yu probably can’t even approach him since AFO also states he can detect vibrations in the air. He’d feel a person very blatantly walking up to him also when question how fast is Yu’s disintegration?
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yuu's disintegration works in an instant the moment he induces it onto something.
 
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