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Dominic wrote aftermath which is after the original MK11, so his word holds more weight for that
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One Being Upgrade
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Both wrote aftermath so I don't see how his holds more weight.
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They both hold an equal amount of weight.
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I agree, personally one being should be above the titans because Kronika governs time which didn't exist until his consciousness was split.
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Is Shawn statement more recent then Dominic?
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Dom's statement came 4 months after shawns
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The Titans being above One Being feels like Death of the Author fallacy
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Yeah it doesn't fit with the lore. Kronika could only rewind to the dawn of time. When was already the one being.
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What makes it death of the author exactly, cuz you cant ignore the titans > one being thing but accept one being isnt embodying the timelines too
Retcons are a thing
Retcons are a thing
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One Being can't exactly embody the Titans if they're stronger than him, if OB embodies everything, he would be weaker than someone supposed to be just a mere fraction of his being, which seems to not be the case.
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The Supreme being was always meant to be the one being.
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A 2012 tweet doesnt debunk or outweighs a more recent tweet from the latest game
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Also i looked on tobias tweets and found these
This should prove 2-C One Being
This should prove 2-C One Being
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Ah, guess I missed that part. Nice so we can make the changes for 2-C, 4D, and type 4 acausality?
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4D what? Also what was acausality type 4 again?
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Higher dimensional existence I mean.
Acausality
Acausality is the ability to act unrestrained by conventional cause and effect, on a scale that varies depending on the character. For some characters, this means not being affected by changes to the past; for others, this means defying all logic and acting with disregard for traditional...
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Based on what he is suppose to have acaus 4 and HDE
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He’s the universe, well his consciousness is. That’s 4D.
from my understanding anyone who transcends or exists outside of time had type 4 acausality. There’s really no reason he shouldn’t.
from my understanding anyone who transcends or exists outside of time had type 4 acausality. There’s really no reason he shouldn’t.
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I feel like such abilities need to be asked to others mire familiar with them, im not that much with those
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Qawsed is here, he'll be able to give input on the HDE scaling but type 4 acausality is a given.
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Literally seeing infinite universes as a dream. This should be tier 1
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How....
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Reality fiction trandence
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HDE comes from him being literally two 4D Space-Times
Type 4 Acausality comes from him following also other systems of causality than our own
Type 4: Irregular Causality: Characters with this type of Acausality operate on a different and irregular system of cause and effect than regular causality. This grants them resistance to abilities such as Causality Manipulation, Fate Manipulation, and Precognition, among others.
As the One Being embodies realms with different flow of time, he would also embody different systems of causality as time and causality are linked, so if time is different, causality is too.
Type 4 Acausality comes from him following also other systems of causality than our own
Type 4: Irregular Causality: Characters with this type of Acausality operate on a different and irregular system of cause and effect than regular causality. This grants them resistance to abilities such as Causality Manipulation, Fate Manipulation, and Precognition, among others.
As the One Being embodies realms with different flow of time, he would also embody different systems of causality as time and causality are linked, so if time is different, causality is too.
Him being 2-A was already debunked lmao.
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Last checked you cant get tier 1 by simply that alone, also given he is not embodying timelines too
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Well all it needs is like staff input
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Seeing something that is 4D as 2D (dream) should be tier 1
Those should be tier 1 if what you're saying is true
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Upgrade Omori/Lavos then lmfao. Coz is not how it works here.
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It is
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Ok, make the CRTs then, because like seeing as a game is not always grounds for Tier 1, seeing as a dream is not either.
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Why would I make a CRT for something already accepted?
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If that was ever accepted as you claim it, many verses will be Tier 1 just cuz of that reality fiction thing
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The verses are what follow standards, not the standard what follows the verses.
Those verses are clearly not following it, so they're Tier 2.
Not to mention that One Being dreaming stuff seems just flowery language, as is illogical that he's defeated from beings who he's supposed to view as nonexistent, given that they're supposed to be just his imagination.
Those verses are clearly not following it, so they're Tier 2.
Not to mention that One Being dreaming stuff seems just flowery language, as is illogical that he's defeated from beings who he's supposed to view as nonexistent, given that they're supposed to be just his imagination.
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The elder God's existed along side the one being and waged war in a timeless void.
The one being fighting in every timeline should also be DOA as that simply not only doesn't make sense. That's not shown to have happened In game.
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Yeah no, as i said before, you cant ignore Dominic word on Titans > One Being, yet accept One Being isnt having timelines as part of himself like you suggested earlier
This death of author argument is bullshit at its finest, we dont know how powerful titans are, dominic pointed out how powerful they are
Elder Gods combined power could beat One Being, which happened canonically, Elder Gods like Shinnok and Cetrion were given birth by Kronika, a Titan, the power difference is logical, also things like Kronika being displayed to struggle to lesser beings is the series having PIS which aint a new thing
The only characters who truly scale to Kronika is Fire God Liu Kang and Krown Shang Tsung, these are the only characters who legit beat her and these two also fought each other and are comparable
This death of author argument is bullshit at its finest, we dont know how powerful titans are, dominic pointed out how powerful they are
Elder Gods combined power could beat One Being, which happened canonically, Elder Gods like Shinnok and Cetrion were given birth by Kronika, a Titan, the power difference is logical, also things like Kronika being displayed to struggle to lesser beings is the series having PIS which aint a new thing
The only characters who truly scale to Kronika is Fire God Liu Kang and Krown Shang Tsung, these are the only characters who legit beat her and these two also fought each other and are comparable
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This is exactly why it's DOA. Kettlesen said otherwise and it fits the lore better.
How can one being be in every timelins when time is but a an aspect of his consciousness?
Her or anyone else can only reverse time to the dawn of time so how can she design the one being vs elder gods battle to happen in each timeline when they existed in a timeless void to begin with.
Dom's statement has too many contradictions and doesn't even make sense.
Kettlesen said one being created the titans and elder gods. It doesn't contradict the story.
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