Omnipresent vs Immeasurable

[Fllflourine]

How much of an advantage is an Omnipresent against an Immeasurable character? I've heard that being Omnipresent is only a marginal improvement against Immeasurable, but why? I've also seen some fights where one character was winning just because they were (Nigh) Omnipresent.

 

[Antvasima]

Being omnipresent on, for example, a universal scale, is not really an advantage against characters that can destroy conceptual and universal structures.

Similarly, the degree of transcendent speed should be more relevant to get an advantage in initiative, than being present in lots of locations at once.

 

[Lina_Shields]

To explain a bit better...

A character with Immeasurable speed is always going to be a 4-Dimensional being due to the fact that he/she would not be affected by the laws of that space-time continuum/universe due to transcending it.

As for Omnipresent vs Immeasurable argument, I think that it really depends on how many space-time continuums he/she is omnipresent in. If you are omnipresent in only a few continuums, your range is limited to those universes that you are omnipresent in. A character with Immeasurable speed may very well stay outside of the range of continuums that you are omnipresent in, making it impossible for you to attack.

At the same time, if the character with Immeasurable speed is in the vicinity of the space-time continuums you are omnipresent in, you have the speed advantage due to being everywhere and anywhere at once in that vicinity.

 

[Reppuzan]

@Lina Shields

Immeasurable speed does not always imply that you're 4-D. It does most of the time, but not always. Case in point.

That said, you've summed it up pretty nicely otherwise. The only real addition to your statement I can really make is that it all depends on whether or not it is in character for an Immeasurable/Omnipresent character to do the things you've specified.

 

[Lina_Shields]

Well, there's also this profile . Not sure if it's correct for a character to have Immeasurable speed for travelling through time, because this would mean that time travelers in general would have immeasurable speed for travelling through time.

 

[Antvasima]

DarkLK thought that Wally West literally running through time qualified as immeasurable speed.