Obito Uchiha vs Madara Uchiha

[TheFinalOrder]

Location: Tenpenchii Crater

SoM: Intent to Kill

NOTE:

• This is Rinnegan Mask Obito w/ Edo Jinchuriki and the Gedo Statue

• This is EMS Madara w/ 100% Kurama

Who takes this match?!


Even being a God, he can't escape from Talk-no-Jutsu.

 

[AstralKing7]

stalemate. Obito cant kamui madara cause he has to be solid and it takes longer to transport his whole body if he trys to escape and he has to be solid to warp again. This would make Obito open to one shots from madara

He cant use Rinnegan abilities cause he literallly stated in verse its too hard for him just controlling the tailed beasts have have the rinngegan which is why he didnt use it.

lacks AP

Madara literally can not touch Obito. While Madara has the AP again he cant not touch Obito and if he screws up one time and ltets obito get the distance he can escape to his dimension and recover some and just cause everything to go back in circules.

 

[AstralKing7]

i vote incon

 

[Callsign_Castle]

Even though Obito controlled multiple full tailed beasts, all of their power pales into comparison to half Kurama, so Madara's reserves are already gigantic compared to Obito's. He also hasn't used any rinnegan techniques besides outer path and the six paths technique, so him doing anything useful with it is entirely out of character.

His wood style is pitiful compared to Hashirama's, even as a weakened edo, and literally the only saving grace he has is Kamui, which won't even save him given how fast he analyzed Sasuke's new rinnegan.

Since Madara has 100% Kurama and 8 tails is out of the picture here, Obito has no hope in attempting to turn the gedo statue into the Juubi.

Madara puts this child in his place.

 

[TheFinalOrder]

Both Obito and Madara are 7-A, with Obito being shown comparable. Madara only exceeds Obito's AP with Susanoo.

While Kurama is Stronger than all the Biju, Obito has the Numbers Advantage.

And Obito actually can use the Human Path at least as he conteplated using it on Yamato until Kabuto convinced him otherwise.

Madara hasn't actually shown higher Reserves than Obito either.

 

[TheFinalOrder]

@Astral

It's implied Obito can Kamui You as soon as he touches you.

• Implied with KCM Naruto

• Implied with Minato

Both of which are Faster than Madara outside of reactions.

 

[AstralKing7]

I mean in verse either Kakashi or Konan or even Obito himself stated that his kamui takes too long to warp someone or himself and even if madara gets warped he can i dont know if its in character but just use Kurama to summon him back like Sasuke did with Manda. He is smart enough but its not in character for him.

 

[Callsign_Castle]

The numbers advantage doesn't mean much. 50% Kurama and Gyuki were handling the bijuu with ease, which forced Obito to use their full power and combine it into a bijuu bomb, which Naruto easily countered on his own.100% Kurama is twice as strong.

Additionally, Hashirama said this same Naruto almost had as much chakra as him (when being an edo makes you weaker than your living self), and Madara had enough chakra to compete with Hashirama, even in sage mode. Madara has much greater reserves.

 

[TheFinalOrder]

I mean in verse either Kakashi or Konan or even Obito himself stated that his kamui takes too long to warp someone or himself and even if madara gets warped he can i dont know if its in character but just use Kurama to summon him back like Sasuke did with Manda. He is smart enough but its not in character for him.

Sasuke never used Manda to summon himself. And while you're right on Kamui, In verse the same is heavily implied in regards to Minato and Naruto. Not to mention it's an assuption that Madara even has a jutsu to summon himself out of that dimension even if he could.

Also, they have intent to kill, so you don't have to worry about them being "In Character", lol.

 

[AstralKing7]

Obito in character wants the nine tails. If madara gets teleported to a dimension wny cant he just summon Kurama, then obito will follow no matter what.

Naruto and Minato are two of the fastest ninjas atm when Obito started back calling himself Tobi after Madara was revived.