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Novel Kars vs Lavos (Grace)
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Rikimarox2
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Right so, what does that tick start with?
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I- don't know honestly
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Of course
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Lavos has nigh omniscience though, and BFR could be a problem since Kars lacks 2-A range
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Surprisingly, the range for D4CU is only universal
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Nigh-Omniscience ≠ NPI and EP.
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Apparently D4CU is based on the original D4C.
Edit: Yeah I checked, it needs a CRT.
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That's weird. Isn't D4Cs range 2A by default? Wasn't the original D4C like that? It'd be pretty weird for an upgraded version to be lower than the original.
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Hmmm it is based on the original, idk why the range got downgraded.
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Still, the stands can't put him down due to type 3 acausality
It works differently I think? I don't know
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Some of JJ stands are based on the original
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I feel like I should clarify, but D4C's "universal range" is the universal creation range, which is universal, for obvious reasons.
The dimensional hop and manifestation range aren't even listed. But the dimensional hop is indeed 2-A.
A lot of stand profiles are missing a bunch of range specifications, they usually only ever list like the manifestation range or an ability range but rarely ever both, let alone the ranges on multiple abilities (Jotaro is like one of a few that specifies all his shit). It's an issue and I've been working on fixing it for awhile in a sticknote, it's about half done, mostly need to finish getting scans and shit for half the verse.
The dimensional hop and manifestation range aren't even listed. But the dimensional hop is indeed 2-A.
A lot of stand profiles are missing a bunch of range specifications, they usually only ever list like the manifestation range or an ability range but rarely ever both, let alone the ranges on multiple abilities (Jotaro is like one of a few that specifies all his shit). It's an issue and I've been working on fixing it for awhile in a sticknote, it's about half done, mostly need to finish getting scans and shit for half the verse.
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Wait, D4CU can create universes?
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Only in the novel. He can create universes to enter or BFR to. Though it can also move and hop through pre-existing ones as well.
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D4C has 2-A range. It's just not listed for whatever reason.
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Eh, he's mostly fine.
The only thing that's an issue is maybe a lack of scans (I'll do that later in the big Crt) and just a range specification on a few things, also the fact he can turn into metal but that's super mundane and irrelevant. But that's not a Kars issue that's a jojo issue in general.
Unless you mean the universe creation thing? In which case I think it is mentioned actually. It's listed in the technique section. It's not combat applicable though.
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Nah just additions.
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Anyways, I can't vote, but pretty sure this is incon. Kars kills Lavos, another lavos comes and BFRs kars, Kars comes back and kills or incaps that lavos, another lavos comes back, kars nukes the universe, another lavos comes from a different universe, rinse and repeat
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Lavos always leads with his fire rain spam if I can remember much from the Chrono Trigger fight in the Ocean Palace, and then a bunch of other set attacks that can cause confusion.
Does Kars have an immunity to Lavos' Soul Manip/Spatial Manip disintegration?
Does Kars have an immunity to Lavos' Soul Manip/Spatial Manip disintegration?
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Nothing, but Kars can't get rid of lavos
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How good is the soul-hax?
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Soul manip is resisted, spatial manip disintegration is covered by type 8
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Darkness Beyond Time is outside of regular Multiverse.
D4C ain't coming back from that.
D4C ain't coming back from that.
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Well Lavos essentially disintegrated someone where even regular time travel could not bring them back without a special method of switching out the victim for a dummy. I assume Kars resists his sealing, matter manip and resistance negations yeah?
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No, he just adapts to it, unless its 5D or higher.
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No actually, sealing might neg the stands, but resistance neg and matter manip won't stop anything
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I mean, that sounds like Deconstruction more than soul-hax but Kars' resistance is in the countless range so it doesn't matter.
As for all of those, D4C takes care of it by binding to another Kars.
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