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It occurs to me how utterly hilarious this debate would be if speed were unequalized.
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Novel Kars vs 1440
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@Axl With equalized speed? The old man opening the bag.
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Opening a bag > turning someone into a bomb with a THOT apparently OvO
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One action > Choosing between dozens of actions with only a handful actually working on the opponent
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No, not all of the actions would work on 1440 and there's a greater chance that Kars chooses an option that doesnt work than there is for 1440 to not open the bag in time to seal Kars
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Weekly what?
Btd requires moving his thumb. Litterally it. Much quicker than opening abag man.
Range effects litterally every character on a multi universal scale (at least three).
Dune effects him litterally without kars even moving as kars with dune had planetary range minimum.
Cmoon gravity nuke effected all thing within multiple kilometer distance.(and the effect happened across all multiple kilometer instantly).
Karsduplicates or d4c grabbing duplicates.
Plus every other method mentioned.
Either all need one thought or have range out the ass and man kars would not think over what would need to be done. He is able ta use all of his stands at once. Add his instinct on top.
Saying only a few methods would work when only za warudo or mih may fail is wrong.
Btd requires moving his thumb. Litterally it. Much quicker than opening abag man.
Range effects litterally every character on a multi universal scale (at least three).
Dune effects him litterally without kars even moving as kars with dune had planetary range minimum.
Cmoon gravity nuke effected all thing within multiple kilometer distance.(and the effect happened across all multiple kilometer instantly).
Karsduplicates or d4c grabbing duplicates.
Plus every other method mentioned.
Either all need one thought or have range out the ass and man kars would not think over what would need to be done. He is able ta use all of his stands at once. Add his instinct on top.
Saying only a few methods would work when only za warudo or mih may fail is wrong.
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Speed is equalized so why youre saying one would be faaster than the other i have no idea
1440 affects on a Hyperversal level
Kars has is more likely to pick something that wouldnt work at the beginning of the fight than 1440 is to not be able to pull the bag at the beginning of the fight
1440 affects on a Hyperversal level
Kars has is more likely to pick something that wouldnt work at the beginning of the fight than 1440 is to not be able to pull the bag at the beginning of the fight
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Yeah?
Thinking and opening a bag.
Which one faster?
Thinking and opening a bag.
Which one faster?
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Even with speed equalised, 2 clones identical in every way, a clone would take less time to touch his thumb to index then to open a bag. That's why
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Theyre equal because speed is equalized, but since in your argument Kars is leading with timestop, 1440 gets the bag out before Kars makes a second thought
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@Iapitus Speed is equalized, so there is no "x would take less time"
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Man what?
Kars litterally thinks and scrolls through every stand man as equal.
Thinking>>>>>>>opening a bag after pulling it out.
Kars litterally thinks and scrolls through every stand man as equal.
Thinking>>>>>>>opening a bag after pulling it out.
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Pretty sure that's not how speed equalization works.
Pretty sure that's not how speed equalization works.
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If he sees every stand as equal then thats even worse for him as he's still more likely to pick a stand that wont work on 1440
1440 doesnt have to pull it out, he starts with it out and literally just has to open it
1440 doesnt have to pull it out, he starts with it out and literally just has to open it
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"When making a speed equalized match, all speed statistics are considered equalized, including speed gained through statitstic-amplifying techniques and transformations"Iapitus The Impaler said:
Yes, this is how speed equalization works
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put it like this, Kars Thinks and Old Man thinks at the same time. But Kars' ability activates on said thought, where as Old Man still needs to take an action to pull out the bagWeeklyBattles said:
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Did I say or even mention that?
No.
No I did not weekly.
And ya aware of what is faster than opening a bag right? thinking.
Kars also going all out as him not understanding the bag would instantly put him on an all put attack.
No.
No I did not weekly.
And ya aware of what is faster than opening a bag right? thinking.
Kars also going all out as him not understanding the bag would instantly put him on an all put attack.
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@J-Man Funny, everyone else in the thread said that Kars would do the eact opposite once he realized he couldnt understand the bag (Which again would leave him open for an instant and allow 1440 to seal him)
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Weekly actually not how equalization worked kars punching and 1440 punching equal and thinking is equal but not punching and thinking.
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@Iapitus And Kars is still more likely to use a stand that wont work on 1440 than a stand that will, while 1440 lierally needs to just move his hand once to open the bag and Kars loses. Again, they are the same speed.
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Yes, thinking would be equalized under speed equalization otherwise the character whose speed is being increased wouldnt be able to handle their body moving at such an increased speed
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Man looking and not or yet ta see any mber on this thread say that.
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Look at Sir Ovens' responses because he did say that and everyone agreed with him
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Yeah?WeeklyBattles said:
Thinking is equalized.
Yeah also thinking faster over opening a bag. Action of thinking and opening a bag itself not equalized.
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Yeah he would.
In conjunction with all his other powers.
In conjunction with all his other powers.
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Thought Speed A = Thought Speed B
Attack Speed A = Attack Speed B
Travel Speed A = Travel Speed B
But that does not mean that Thought Speed A = Attack Speed B, nor Thought Speed A = Travel Speed A.
Attack Speed A = Attack Speed B
Travel Speed A = Travel Speed B
But that does not mean that Thought Speed A = Attack Speed B, nor Thought Speed A = Travel Speed A.
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Yes actually it does
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The moment Kars hesitates and tries to escape he gets sealed along with everything he tried to thro at 1440
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No weekly.
Litterally only ya on this wiki think that as litterally only ya thus far have stated it worked like that.
Litterally only ya on this wiki think that as litterally only ya thus far have stated it worked like that.
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No, im not, because its literally in the rules.
Also can you please work on typing more legibly?
Also can you please work on typing more legibly?
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>Hesitates.WeeklyBattles said:
Problem one.
>Throw.
Over half his powers effect instantly at a thought weekly. Other half outright have range where throwing wrong .
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>Tries to timestop which fails
>Realizes he cant understand the opponent he's fighting or their abilities
>Tries to use his abilities, half of which end up failing outright
In this instance 1440 will have enough time to open the bag and seal Kars
>Realizes he cant understand the opponent he's fighting or their abilities
>Tries to use his abilities, half of which end up failing outright
In this instance 1440 will have enough time to open the bag and seal Kars
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Ya extrapolating stated wiki rules to do what is definitely not intented.WeeklyBattles said:
Opening a bag and thinking? Not equalized. Thinking and thinking or punching and punching yeah but thinking and punching not.
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All speeds are equalized
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Timestopping is a thought.
Timestopping fail and he would instantly go all out. Why does he need ta think about anything? Plus half his stands are automatic and act out on threats if need be like star platinum.
Plus if ya outright say he has the bag in his hands at the start of the match kars would instantly go all out anyway.
Timestopping fail and he would instantly go all out. Why does he need ta think about anything? Plus half his stands are automatic and act out on threats if need be like star platinum.
Plus if ya outright say he has the bag in his hands at the start of the match kars would instantly go all out anyway.
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That would mean dodging would be impossible in a speed equalisation match, because it would take the same amount of time to percieve the punch about to hit your face as it would for the fist to hit your face. Time to move out of the way = 1, time it takes to percieve punch = 1, time that it takes for punch to hit face = 1. Therefore, it will always take more time to dodge then you have to actually get out of the way because Time 1 + Time 2 > Time 3.
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@Iapitus Dodging IS impossible in a speed equalized match
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