Nonduality for Astral Forms

[Excellence616]

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[VeryGoofyToddler2]

It makes the most sense in terms of which form of ND we’re giving. However, are we scaling the plane itself as well as the users of it whenever they use astral forms? If it's under those conditions then I don't see a problem with it.

 

[Eseseso]

It makes the most sense in terms of which form of ND we’re giving. However, are we scaling the plane itself as well as the users of it whenever they use astral forms? If it's under those conditions then I don't see a problem with it.

Yes, the plane itself is ND as well as all astral forms, as the statement that refers to "the realm of mind and spirit" as being "between being and non-being", so it is almost certainly including the nature of mind and spirit as being such.

 

[Antvasima]

I mentioned this in the previous CRT but I decided to just move it to a new thread in order to conclude my other one.

This should be added to the Astral Form sandbox for their Physiology:

Nonduality (Nature 1; Aspect 2): The Astral Realm, where all Astral Forms reside, is described as "The edge of reality. The shores of oblivion. The realm of mind and spirit that exists between being and non-being"[10], and because Astral Forms are composed of not just one's soul, but also one's mind and the very essence of who they are, they thus exist between "being" and "not being" in regard to their minds, souls, and personal concepts.

Can somebody link to the astral form sandbox please?

 

[Antvasima]

Would this thread be affected by this one?

Nonduality doesn't make you immune to things until stated

The nonduality page says that being nondual regarding something makes you immune to attacks using that thing. My simple proposal: Remove that, because in general that is simply not true. Instead make it something a verse can have the ability do if it clarifies the ability does that. I first...

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Yup.

Also, what about this?

 

[Eseseso]

Can somebody link to the astral form sandbox please?

The Nature of Astral Forms, the Astral Plane, and Telepathy (Marvel Comics)

Astral Forms are, first off, the incarnations of one's soul, being referred to as one's ectoplasmic form (also referred to as such twice here), their "spirit identity", their psi-bodies, and their metaphysical spirit. They are also defined as abstractions of sentient minds represented as loci of...

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Also, what about this?

I'm not sure, since the entire rules of ND are still not something I fully understand, but I still think that it fits the requirements for Nonduality 2 as listed above due to being "between being and non-being", the same reason it has NEP Nature 2.

 

[Antvasima]

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What do you think about this?

 

[Dark-Carioca]

As far as my knowledge goes, it seems fine.

 

[Antvasima]

Thank you for helping out.

 

[Firestorm808]

I'm a bit confused where the Nature 1 and Aspect 2 requirements are on the info page.

Nonduality

Nonduality and Transduality are states of being wherein an entity exists independently of, or qualitatively beyond, various dual systems, ranging from specific, limited sets of dual distinctions to duality itself on a conceptual level. For example, taking 0 and 1, the two possible states of...

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[Eseseso]

I'm a bit confused where the Nature 1 and Aspect 2 requirements are on the info page.

Nonduality

Nonduality and Transduality are states of being wherein an entity exists independently of, or qualitatively beyond, various dual systems, ranging from specific, limited sets of dual distinctions to duality itself on a conceptual level. For example, taking 0 and 1, the two possible states of...

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Nature 1 is now just Nonduality while Nature 2 is Transduality (and yeah they ****** up the page recently), I just didn't edit the OP.

Aspect 2 is General Nonduality.

 

[Firestorm808]

I suppose this is okay for specifically "between being and non-being"

 

[ProfectusInfinity]

2 agrees (Elizio and Firestorm) should be enough to implement this.

 

[Eseseso]

2 agrees (Elizio and Firestorm) should be enough to implement this.

Nonduality is a very major and controversial power, so I'd like to wait for a third voting agreement.

Thank you for helping out.

Any thoughts on the OP?

 

[Antvasima]

To which pages would this be applied, and would it unreasonably upgrade the tiers for any astral projectors?

 

[Eseseso]

To which pages would this be applied, and would it unreasonably upgrade the tiers for any astral projectors?

Probably just the Astral form/plane page, and since this isn't transduality it really shouldn't upgrade anyone's tier.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. Then this revision is probably fine to apply, but which other staff members here agree with it?

 

[Eseseso]

Okay. Then this revision is probably fine to apply, but which other staff members here agree with it?

Elizio33 and Firestorm.

Also as I said in another thread, I will not be able to access my laptop until July 5/6 so I will not be able to apply this until then.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. No problem.

 

[Eseseso]

Just added Nonduality to the Astral Form page, so feel free to close this thread.