Nomenclature change for DC Comics profiles.

[JohnCenaNation]

I already shared my input in the other thread, too lazy to repost the same thing again.

 

[M3X_2.0]

You have to repost them here, it means nothing on the other thread.

 

[JohnCenaNation]

I mean that's what DC Wiki has been doing since a very long time, so it strikes me a lot how come we haven't been doing it as well. But in all honestly, in my opinion we should keep the original format because even if we simplify which universe those characters are from, there are still multiple versions of those characters from those universes for example look at Superman.
Superman (disambiguation)
Publication history of Superman
While Wikipedia's format of Superman isn't all that accurate, but at least they are being specifically by mentioning that they are talking about Clark Kent/Kal-El version of Superman and not any other versions of Supermen. So I guess we can follow Wikipedia's format instead?

 

[M3X_2.0]

This ain't even our wiki, I don't recall any other profile from PC Superman on our wiki, it's just different keys if he has one

 

[M3X_2.0]

Anyways, help with formatting anyone?

Note: This profile refers to Batman after the 1985 Crisis On Infinite Earths event, from 1985 to 2011, popularly known as Post-Crisis.

This could be either under summary or Origin.

Tier: 9-A. Unknown with Explosives, 4-B with Preparation

Name: Bruce Wayne (public name), Batman (superhero alias)

Origin: DC Comics, Detectives Comics #27 (This profile refers to Batman after the 1985 Crisis On Infinite Earths event, from 1985 to 2011, popularly known as Post-Crisis.)

Gender: Male

Age: Probably in his late 30s or early 40s

Classification: Human, Founding Member of the Justice League

 

[M3X_2.0]

Also the first appearence of this Batman takes place on Batman Vol 1 #392, DC #27 is for Pre Crisis.

 

[LordTracer]

Personally, I would put it under the Summary section or just in the Notes section at the bottom of the page.

 

[Antvasima]

I think that the summary sections seem easier to notice for our visitors compared to footnote sections, and that the explanations take up too much space in the origin sections.

 

[M3X_2.0]

Bump. @Antvasima I have a question. We have bots, I think they could rename the profiles automatically?

 

[Antvasima]

Well, Butler is the only currently active staff member who is experienced with using one, and he is currently busy with more prioritised tasks, and what I said earlier here still applies.

 

[M3X_2.0]

and what I said earlier here still applies.

What exactly?

 

[M3X_2.0]

What exactly?

Bump

 

[Antvasima]

After I reread the above conversation, it seems like I misremembered and eventually accepted this suggestion, if redirect links and footnotes are consistently used.

@Starter_Pack @Abstractions @LordGriffin1000 @Colonel_Krukov @SamanPatou @Maverick_Zero_X @Just_a_Random_Butler @Shadowbokunohero @Ogurtsow @QrowBarr @Crazylatin77 @Zaratthustra @ElixirBlue @Tllmbrg @Nehz_XZX @Dereck03 @Marvel_Champion_07 @Therefir @IdiosyncraticLawyer

Would any of you be willing to help out with this project?

 

[M3X_2.0]

@LordTracer Do you know the profiles affected by the third option?

 

[LordTracer]

@LordTracer Do you know the profiles affected by the third option?

Off the top of my head, Richard Dragon, Shark, Black Hand, Hal Jordan, Starfire, Blackfire and Darkseid. There might be a few more that I’m missing.

 

[Antvasima]

Please remind us regarding which options you are referring to here.

 

[M3X_2.0]

1. Richard Dragon (Earth One and New Earth)
2. Richard Dragon (Pre Prime Earth)
3. Richard Dragon (Earth One)

Options for characters that don't change between reboots.

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Number 3 is still the best imo.

 

[LordTracer]

Off the top of my head, Richard Dragon, Shark, Black Hand, Hal Jordan, Starfire, Blackfire and Darkseid. There might be a few more that I’m missing.

Found some others: Starro, Chemo, Power Girl and I, Vampire

 

[Antvasima]

I am not sure if option one or three is better for characters that did not change at all except for their power levels between continuities.

 

[M3X_2.0]

Found some others: Starro, Chemo, Power Girl and I, Vampire

Deathstroke too.

 

[LordTracer]

Deathstroke too.

Well his page doesn’t have Pre-Crisis content on it atm, but yeah

 

[M3X_2.0]

Well his page doesn’t have Pre-Crisis content on it atm, but yeah

I’m working on it. Most of his important arcs carried over PC and they just continued when COIE ended.

 

[M3X_2.0]

I am not sure if option one or three is better for characters that did not change at all except for their power levels between continuities.

Makes sense. The third one is okay

I'm fine with the naming change. Calling them by the Prime Earth is probably better anyways since it easier to narrow down eras as well.

For stuff like unchanged character it would be what version if Earth they came from imo. So choice 3.

Number 3 is still the best imo.

I also agree to your third suggestion of naming characters who appear in Earth-One and New Earth after the era they originated from.

Our staff agreed to the third option.

 

[M3X_2.0]

• Richard Dragon
• Shark
• Black Hand
• Hal Jordan
• Starfire
• Blackfire
• Darkseid
• Starro
• Chemo
• Power Girl
• I, Vampire
• Deathstroke

These are the profiles affected by the third option. They will be renamed to where they originated from.

 

[LordTracer]

That would be Earth-One for all of them except Power Girl, who would get Earth-Two. I also think we should give them redirects so, for example, searching Hal Jordan (New Earth) would redirect to Hal Jordan (Earth-One).

 

[M3X_2.0]

Honestly, since Hal's profile cover all periods I think it can just be "Green Lantern (Hal Jordan)" and it'd be fine.

 

[LordTracer]

Honestly, since Hal's profile cover all periods I think it can just be "Green Lantern (Hal Jordan)" and it'd be fine.

That also works.

 

[Antvasima]

Just to clarify, characters who continued to other continuities, such as Power Girl, would still get statistic keys for each era, correct? Their power levels shifted considerably.

 

[M3X_2.0]

Just to clarify, characters who continued to other continuities, such as Power Girl, would still get statistic keys for each era, correct? Their power levels shifted considerably.

Yes

 

[Catzlaflame]

Neron (Pre-Flashpoint)

Neron is a powerful Demon King who has been making deals with various heroes and supervillains to give them something they want in exchange for their souls. He has been an enemy of The Spectre, Deadman, the Justice League, and other magical beings until he was defeated by Lord Satanus and Blaze...

vsbattles.fandom.com

 

[LordTracer]

I don’t know why Neron even has Pre-Flashpoint, he’s just a New Earth character.

 

[Antvasima]

Neron popped up in both post-Crisis and post-Rebirth continuity. I don't remember seeing him in post-Flashpoint continuity though.

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

Neron popped up in both post-Crisis and post-Rebirth continuity. I don't remember seeing him in post-Flashpoint continuity though.

He was in a small arc within Hellblaze/John Constantine Post-Flashpoint run, he just has so few appearances that I saw him as unnecessary, however I have to review his Post-Rebirth stuff as he seems to have gone back to his original concept

 

[Catzlaflame]

Should we start by renaming the tabbers on the DC comics page ?

 

[M3X_2.0]

I actually want to remove this and replace with a DC Comics logo.

 

[Antvasima]

Should we start by renaming the tabbers on the DC comics page ?

That seems fine to me.

I actually want to remove this and replace with a DC Comics logo.

We can include both the logo and the era-relevant images via tabbers. That seems like a good compromise solution.

 

[LordTracer]

Bump. This never got applied.

 

[Antvasima]

Can somebody summarise our conclusions so far here please?

 

[M3X_2.0]

Can somebody summarise our conclusions so far here please?

We need to change the names for the official ones and not popular names.