Nobara Upgrade CRT

[Rogue_Forge]

Why are Nobara and Megumi physically comparable? You have to provide evidence on the wiki. Vibe scaling isn't usually sufficient.

He relies too much on his Cursed Technique over physical stats and enhancements (as stated by gojo several times which you can see with just a quick google search) so his physical stats, at least before Sukuna said he has potential, wouldn't be leagues ahead of Nobara

Also I forgot this but Nobara not only has higher motor skills than Miwa, as I've stated, but also higher Jujutsu than Miwa (7 vs 5), even if we say this is due to a "Better" Technique, it would mean that they shouldn't be miles apart in CE reinforcement

This all brings up the main flaw with Nobara's new profile, she's still thousands of times weaker than the second weakest character which doesn't make any sense,

She's literally 19,588 times weaker than the second weakest character with a profile

Also Mai's bullets (which Nobara got hit several times without major injury) make Maki bleed, which would scale her to Maki

Here's Nobara getting hit

And getting right back up seconds later (these are the same scene)

And here's her getting shot off guard

So she pretty easily scales to Mai's bullets (Building level from damaging Maki)

 

[Rogue_Forge]

Y'know what, If I had remembered her Mai and Kechizu scaling I definitely would have added it to the OP

 

[Rogue_Forge]

Screw it, I'm gonna rework the OP to just have the definitive proof stuff that I've already shown

 

[That_moron2]

What about this attack not completely shredding through Nobara? if she's only street level this attack that damaged Yuji would have turned her into paste

This isn't even an attack its just poisoning her. Also, people Nobara was going relative with got one-tapped by Yuji

 

[Axxtentacle]

This isn't even an attack its just poisoning her. Also, people Nobara was going relative with got one-tapped by Yuji

"this isn't even an attack" as she's clearly recoiling from the force of being shot in the back by the attack, and we get multiple "thump" sound effects to indicate they are striking her

 

[That_moron2]

"this isn't even an attack" as she's clearly recoiling from the force of being shot in the back by the attack, and we get multiple "thump" sound effects to indicate they are striking her

It’s not an ability meant to do damage is what I meant. Wing King is for poison, not blunt damage.

 

[Axxtentacle]

It’s not an ability meant to do damage is what I meant. Wing King is for poison, not blunt damage.

I fail to see any relevancy or proof for this. His blood being poison shouldn't mean his attacks are all meant to do absolutely no damage by themselves.

 

[That_moron2]

I fail to see any relevancy or proof for this. His blood being poison shouldn't mean his attacks are all meant to do absolutely no damage by themselves.

It’s less there’s proof of it not being 8-B so much as there’s no proof of it being 8-B. This is the only time we ever see it hit someone.

 

[That_moron2]

Actually looking at it, why is Miwa 8-C? The stuff about grade 2 scaling doesn’t work for reasons I already got accepted in my downgrade CRT, and she shouldn’t scale to Maki either considering how badly she got curb-stomped while Maki was still casual.

 

[LaserPrecision]

Wing King could penetrate Yuji's body. So it's def 8-B. It kind of needs to penetrate the opponent for the poison blood to get into their system.

 

[Axxtentacle]

It’s less there’s proof of it not being 8-B so much as there’s no proof of it being 8-B. This is the only time we ever see it hit someone.

Isn't Eso accepted at 8-B...? Wouldn't his maximum technique be in the same tier as him?

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

We already sorta just ignored Nobara bruising Eso, having more stuff within that range should at worst give her an at most rating.

 

[That_moron2]

Isn't Eso accepted at 8-B...?

Yes, but not ever attack from an 8-B character is 8-B

Wouldn't his maximum technique be in the same tier as him?

It would be if the purpose was to deal blunt damage, but it’s primary function is poison and corrosion.

 

[That_moron2]

Wing King could penetrate Yuji's body. So it's def 8-B. It kind of needs to penetrate the opponent for the poison blood to get into their system.

This is a good point. It also penetrated Nobara’s body though, and it has corrosive properties, so it would be pseudo-dura neg

 

[LaserPrecision]

This is a good point. It also penetrated Nobara’s body though, and it has corrosive properties, so it would be pseudo-dura neg

Sure, but the impact was enough to actually make both recoil at it IIRC. Neither of them just stood there like a rock and ate it like nothing happened. And if it could penetrate Yuji, and Nobara was thousands of times weaker it would've blown a hole through her entire torso.

 

[That_moron2]

Sure, but the impact was enough to actually make both recoil at it IIRC. Neither of them just stood there like a rock and ate it like nothing happened. And if it could penetrate Yuji, and Nobara was thousands of times weaker it would've blown a hole through her entire torso.

I just checked, Yuji never even got hit with it.

 

[LaserPrecision]

I just checked, Yuji never even got hit with it.

He didn't?

 

[Buraqibear]

Agree obviously. Multiple points made here are irrefutable such as tanking Mai's bullets which could damage Maki who Miwa said is like a grade 2 Sorcerer and has other feats scaling to that level, being capable of taking hits from and fighting Eso and Kechizu etc. etc.

 

[Axxtentacle]

Yes, but not ever attack from an 8-B character is 8-B

...? It's his... strongest move.

It would be if the purpose was to deal blunt damage, but it’s primary function is poison and corrosion.

...no, that's a secondary technique they can activate after they hit you.

 

[Dalesean027]

We already sorta just ignored Nobara bruising Eso, having more stuff within that range should at worst give her an at most rating.

With an off guard hit to the head barely brusing him with him not even budging isn't a good showing tbh, I pointed that out there in that same crt

I just checked, Yuji never even got hit with it.

Also yeah I went and checked Yuji is never hit by the Wing King shit so I'm not sure why people are claiming that to be the case...very odd

Anyways though it definitely doesn't even need to pierce to start burning either, it nicked Nobara's hair and singed it, the technique isn't even an AP based attack its specifcally stated to be decomposition and that it would turn them to bones

So it doesn't work really for any AP scaling not full on at least as there is definitely a kinda dura neg aspect to it especially since they give both Kugisaki and Itadori 15 minutes to last until they decompose, if the stat gap really mattered Yuji should be able to hold on for far longer since we know there is a massive gap in physicality and power between the two

 

[DragoZeroNova]

Yeah, rechecked chapters 60 and 61. What happened was Nobara got hit with Wing King while Yuji got hit with Kechizu's poison vomit (which I don't think can even be considered AP)

 

[Dalesean027]

City Block level (Battled a Mahito clone)

You were making a good point but then immediately undermined it by saying they vary...
Unless we know for a fact the clones she fought were a certain strength, they're unknown, if anything they'd be scaling off her instead of the other way around.

This is the same thing I said in the last CRT, this too doesn't work since the clone's strength level is never given unlike the specific splits we see later when Yuji and Todo fight Mahito later where they explain how much CE he splits into his attacks when fighting them but since this clone isn't treated with the same levity and has no statements it can only scale from Nobara as its featless otherwise therefore that doesn't work as justification either

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

With an off guard hit to the head barely brusing him with him not even budging isn't a good showing tbh, I pointed that out there in that same crt

But then you consider that Nobara is currently a whole x1,394,666 weaker than the person she noticeably bruised.

 

[Dalesean027]

But then you consider that Nobara is currently a whole x1,394,666 weaker than the person she noticeably bruised.

Considering the same guy survives a flurry of blows from Yuji and doesn't take actually fatal damage until he's hit with a black flash its clearly his physicality is more in line to where Yuji is rather than Nobara who we know is far weaker than Yuji physically, I wouldn't be pressed to say its an outlier for her to bruise him but even then like I said he never even budges or moves a bit from that off guard hit, literally didn't phase him so you tell me which sounds more likely. Its far above any feat she has before or after this (Especially since she glazes Nanami who is in shibuya stated to be = in AP to Yuji at the time, like be real she isn't on this level heck she isn't even on Maki's level and she's 8-C at the time)

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

Considering the same guy survives a flurry of blows from Yuji and doesn't take actually fatal damage until he's hit with a black flash its clearly his physicality is more in line to where Yuji is rather than Nobara who we know is far weaker than Yuji physically, I wouldn't be pressed to say its an outlier for her to bruise him but even then like I said he never even budges or moves a bit from that off guard hit, literally didn't phase him so you tell me which sounds more likely. Its far above any feat she has before or after this (Especially since she glazes Nanami who is in shibuya stated to be = in AP to Yuji at the time, like be real she isn't on this level heck she isn't even on Maki's level and she's 8-C at the time)

The paneling in that scene honestly isn’t super clear, but the anime does actually show Nobara moving Eso with the hit, there’s even a splash of blood to sell that she hurt him.

For the rest, Nobara doesn’t need to be on Yuji/Nanami’s level to still be within the same tier and honestly this bruising thing lines more up with an "At most 8-B" than a full one. I’ve seen lots of flimsier showings get an "At most ___" rating, so this really isn’t outside the norm.

 

[PowerToScale]

I am not going to discuss the beginning of the series ratings or fearsome womb ratings but Nobara is missing a key aspect to her AP.

Nobara is missing a "X level Via cursed tools" rating as with a toy hammer was able to harm Momo who is able to take a hit from Megumi's Nue. This same Momo as per Nobara's own words probably would die if she was hit with a real hammer that is cursed infused.

Additionally, I've seen people bring it up but the bullets used on Nobara and the one that Maki caught are not the same. Nobara was struck in the temple with a cursed energy infused rubber bullet, Maki caught a cursed energy infused real bullet that was made via Mai technique. Hence, Maki who is physically stronger and more durable had a bleeding wound and Nobara did not have any such deep wound. And we see this as mentioned with Nobara, soft toy cursed energy infused hammer was fine against Momo but a real cursed energy infused hammer could kill her.

All keys of Nobara from Goodwill onwards should have a "X level physically (this strong with CE enhancement), up to City Block Level via Cursed tools (is able to harm Momo who took a hit from Nue with a rubber hammer, and could kill her with a real hammer)"

 

[Dalesean027]

is able to harm Momo who took a hit from Nue with a rubber hammer, and could kill her with a real hammer)"

Nue is only like what 9-A or 8-C via calcs, I don't believe we scale it as 8-B right now but the rest sounds about right

The paneling in that scene honestly isn’t super clear, but the anime does actually show Nobara moving Eso with the hit, there’s even a splash of blood to sell that she hurt him.

For the rest, Nobara doesn’t need to be on Yuji/Nanami’s level to still be within the same tier and honestly this bruising thing lines more up with an "At most 8-B" than a full one. I’ve seen lots of flimsier showings get an "At most ___" rating, so this really isn’t outside the norm.

that's definitely more convincing than the manga where he doesn't even budge it'd either have to be an outmost deal or labeled an outlier no other real options

 

[PowerToScale]

Nue is only like what 9-A or 8-C via calcs, I don't believe we scale it as 8-B right now but the rest sounds about right

Even then that's still higher than the current base rating. More so the point is that Nobara is stronger with her tools than base, and should be reflected on the profile. Based on that the goodwill on the profile it should read:

X level physically, at least Y via cursed tools (Is able to harm Momo with a cursed infused toy hammer who took a hit from Megumi's Nue. Would have killed her if hit with a real hammer), Higher with cursed techniques

 

[LaserPrecision]

X level physically, at least Y via cursed tools (Is able to harm Momo with a cursed infused toy hammer who took a hit from Megumi's Nue. Would have killed her if hit with a real hammer), Higher with cursed techniques

Does Momo have a profile or nah. Cuz depending on the answer, I think this description should be reworded.

 

[Rogue_Forge]

Does Momo have a profile or nah. Cuz depending on the answer, I think this description should be reworded.

No she doesn't

 

[Shey]

The paneling in that scene honestly isn’t super clear, but the anime does actually show Nobara moving Eso with the hit, there’s even a splash of blood to sell that she hurt him.

That's evidently coming out of the bleeding face in his back, in the anime there isn't even a scuff on his head from that hit
This doesn't work at all

 

[Rogue_Forge]

Welp, now Nobara just scales to Momo, who has 8-C Dura on her profile from taking a hit from Nue

 

[Chariot190]

Why are we using a casual attack from someone who isn't even trying to kill her and is more just flexing on her that also completely ****** her up anyway that isn't even an actual attack but hax as scaling.

Ngl thou, there's been so much backpedaling this thread, changing why she should be a certain lv like 8 times, using examples that are either objectively not even true and didn't happen, and even contentions between supporters on what actually happened in some cases on top of admission a handful of profiles sus af that, I'm at the point I need to see her explicitly pull out a feat herself, or outright harm a character that is undeniably no bullshit a certain tier because this is starting to seem less like "she's this strong because it's accurate" and more grasping at whatever flimsy reason is possible to give her big number.

Welp, now Nobara just scales to Momo, who has 8-C Dura on her profile from taking a hit from Nue

Ok so where's the scan? Show Nobara hurting her while she's at 8-C lv of toughness?

Also because the profile is bad, why is Momo scaling to 8-C anyway for getting floored by a casual attack? Was megumi trying to kill her for it to even count? Doesn't help a casual attack from Momo deals heavy damage to Nobara either.

 

[That_moron2]

Welp, now Nobara just scales to Momo, who has 8-C Dura on her profile from taking a hit from Nue

You can't just make a profile and then try to upgrade characters based on the scaling you gave that profile. Also, the profile' is wrong, there's no reason Nue would be stronger than Megumi himself

 

[Chariot190]

You can't just make a profile and then try to upgrade characters based on the scaling you gave that profile. Also, the profile' is wrong, there's no reason Nue would be stronger than Megumi himself

Wait hold tf up, did they JUST publish that profile??????
" 06:05, 27 August 2025 Rogue Forge"

Yeah no **** that, this is one of the most sus things I've seen anyone ever do on this forum goddamn.
Making a profile, which mind you none of the scaling was accepted for that character in question, nor was it run past the supporters from what I've seen, nor was there a CRT for it, just to go "oh see this profile is 8-C, and she fought her so she's 8-C too!".

I want this shit closed, I'm 5 seconds away from getting mods in on this shit, if someone wants to upgrade her ass at a later point, sure, maybe someone can give actual reasons, but this thread is anything but, a half dozen backpedals and whatever tf this ploy was makes this beyond unreliable.

 

[DragoZeroNova]

Wait hold tf up, did they JUST publish that profile??????
" 06:05, 27 August 2025 Rogue Forge"

Yeah no **** that, this is one of the most sus things I've seen anyone ever do on this forum goddamn.
Making a profile, which mind you none of the scaling was accepted for that character in question, nor was it run past the supporters from what I've seen, nor was there a CRT for it, just to go "oh see this profile is 8-C, and she fought her so she's 8-C too!".

I want this shit closed, I'm 5 seconds away from getting mods in on this shit, if someone wants to upgrade her ass at a later point, sure, maybe someone can give actual reasons, but this thread is anything but, a half dozen backpedals and whatever tf this ploy was makes this beyond unreliable.

Can you even do this? I've had a profile (for a different verse) I've been waiting to publish for a bit because all the CRT slots are taken and I thought you had to make a CRT first to be able to create a profile.

 

[Dalesean027]

Wait hold tf up, did they JUST publish that profile??????
" 06:05, 27 August 2025 Rogue Forge"

Yeah no **** that, this is one of the most sus things I've seen anyone ever do on this forum goddamn.
Making a profile, which mind you none of the scaling was accepted for that character in question, nor was it run past the supporters from what I've seen, nor was there a CRT for it, just to go "oh see this profile is 8-C, and she fought her so she's 8-C too!".

I want this shit closed, I'm 5 seconds away from getting mods in on this shit, if someone wants to upgrade her ass at a later point, sure, maybe someone can give actual reasons, but this thread is anything but, a half dozen backpedals and whatever tf this ploy was makes this beyond unreliable.

Nah this is definitely some shit that deserves some formal warning at the very worst, actually report worthy shit

 

[Chariot190]

Can you even do this? I've had a profile (for a different verse) I've been waiting to publish for a bit because all the CRT slots are taken and I thought you had to make a CRT first to be able to create a profile.

Like you don't NEED to in some cases, like if I went to make a Dragona Joestar profile it'd be fine because they're self contained, but if it ***** with scaling, ie, like here and all that other yap, etc ya should.
And even then you should always run the sandbox by goons first so everyone is on the same page or just for a quality check, hell even I run all my shit past like a dozen dudes first even tho I know damn well it's fine.
And that's like, if you're reliable and have precedence of making good profiles, if that's your first one or few, usually you wanna run it past a mod first to avoid trouble later, like case and point, where is the scans for the profile, why is there zero citations? References are mandated, yet the two scans linked aren't cited.

 

[DragoZeroNova]

Like you don't NEED to in some cases, like if I went to make a Dragona Joestar profile it'd be fine because they're self contained, but if it ***** with scaling, ie, like here and all that other yap, etc ya should.
And even then you should always run the sandbox by goons first so everyone is on the same page or just for a quality check, hell even I run all my shit past like a dozen dudes first even tho I know damn well it's fine.
And that's like, if you're reliable and have precedence of making good profiles, if that's your first one or few, usually you wanna run it past a mod first to avoid trouble later, like case and point, where is the scans for the profile, why is there zero citations? References are mandated, yet the two scans linked aren't cited.

That's about what I figured, thanks.

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

Nah this is definitely some shit that deserves some formal warning at the very worst, actually report worthy shit

Can the CRT be closed