Ninja Jesus vs Martial God

[Testarossa002]

Sage of Six Paths vs Slashing Demon Emperor
Ten-Tails Jinchuriki Key vs Eun Jarim Key
AP: At least 118.88 Zettatons vs 6.46 Exatons, 357 Zettatons with Beast Qi Unification, 0.5 Yottatons with Black Hole
LS: At least 1 quintillion Metric Tons, 45.40796 quintillion Metric Tons with Deva Path vs 508.0634 Trillion Metric Tons, 1.01612 Quadrillion Metric Tons with Demonic Energy
Speed Equalized
4km starting distance
SBA for the rest
Hagoromo:
Yeowun: @AlternativePrinciple @DavidTPPM
Inconclusive

 

[KingTempest]

DO NOT COUNT THIS AS A VOTE
Someone tell me the reasons why Yeowun wins. I do not know who tf that is or what the hell they can do, I just know by the look of their profile that they win, and I wanna see why

 

[DavidTPPM]

Martial God

Hagoromo getting one tapped by voice mimicry

 

[karo_senpaii]

How exactly does yeouwun start. I didn't actually finish nano machine but off the rip he doesn't have any answer for genjutsu and EE

 

[Testarossa002]

DO NOT COUNT THIS AS A VOTE
Someone tell me the reasons why Yeowun wins. I do not know who tf that is or what the hell they can do, I just know by the look of their profile that they win, and I wanna see why

Copies chakra and beats Hagoromo with it

• Layered Spatial Slash
• Absolute Zero that can be used as Danmaku
• Layered Power Null
• Far more skilled
• Regeneration and Immortality
• Capable of using Flash-like phasing on his attacks for dura neg

There's more, but this is all for now

 

[karo_senpaii]

Copies chakra and beats Hagoromo with it

• Layered Spatial Slash
• Absolute Zero that can be used as Danmaku
• Layered Power Null
• Far more skilled
• Regeneration and Immortality
• Capable of using Flash-like phasing on his attacks for dura neg

There's more, but this is all for now

Layered Spatial slash? Ain't time patrol key out of it?

Hag also has layered resistance to powerful

 

[AlternativePrinciple]

DO NOT COUNT THIS AS A VOTE
Someone tell me the reasons why Yeowun wins. I do not know who tf that is or what the hell they can do, I just know by the look of their profile that they win, and I wanna see why

Anyways, Yeo is very skilled from what I can gather but that can be somewhat fixed via hags analytical prediction with sage mode. As for win cons

Yeo has a higher AP but hags has Hashirama level regeneration, Indra/Asura resurrection and immortality type 1/2/3 so that helps. If push comes to shove he can recreate body parts using CoAT. Hags has a massive LS advantage here which would make TK, CT, Shinra Tensei and Wood style (129 quintillion metric tons) that has layered paralysis instawin.

Other than that Hags can use Genjutsu, TSO which has EE, Sealing jutsus

 

[AlternativePrinciple]

Copies chakra and beats Hagoromo with it

• Layered Spatial Slash

Hags has precog so he can dodge it

• Absolute Zero that can be used as Danmaku

TSO shield that would EE

• Layered Power Null

Can’t do anything about that

• Far more skilled

Sure, though with sage mode should make it a bit more fair

• Regeneration and Immortality

Hags has the same and Kurama low-godly regen negation

• Capable of using Flash-like phasing on his attacks for dura neg

Hags has upto cellular level resistance to dura neg, don’t know if that’s gonna help

There's more, but this is all for now

 

[Testarossa002]

Layered Spatial slash? Ain't time patrol key out of it?

All previous abilities yada yada

Hag also has layered resistance to powerful

Layered?

Anyways, Yeo is very skilled from what I can gather but that can be somewhat fixed via hags analytical prediction with sage mode

I disagree with this but i don't care for skill slops

Hashirama level regeneration

Yeowun has regeneration negation (High-Mid). Forgot to apply it to his profile but it's accepted here

Hags has a massive LS advantage here which would make TK, CT, Shinra Tensei and Wood style (129 quintillion metric tons) that has layered paralysis instawin.

Kinda just uses Black Hole to absorb the CT core
Also

• Regeneration and Attack Reflection with the Ice Cold Spear (When transformed into armor, the staff can reflect all energy-based attacks back at the opponent with twice their original power. It also possesses restorative properties, allowing it to reattach the user’s severed limbs.)

Genjutsu,

Valid. Yeowun simply has no answer to that

TSO which has EE

Yeowun can BFR to the shadow realm

Sealing jutsus

Power Null, or he just teleports away, or he escapes to the shadow realm

Hags has upto cellular level resistance to dura neg, don’t know if that’s gonna help

Probably. But he can also do this

• Matter Manipulation (Sub-Atomic; As a result of being able to freely control their surroundings, they can now interact with Shakena's intangibility which allows her to break down her body at a below atomic level)

 

[AlternativePrinciple]

I disagree with this but i don't care for skill slops

David’s crying in the corner

Yeowun has regeneration negation (High-Mid). Forgot to apply it to his profile but it's accepted here

Fair, though Hags would still have type 2 immortality and CoAT if things go south

Kinda just uses Black Hole to absorb the CT core

Is that allowed, though I can see it since he has a higher AP

Yeowun can BFR to the shadow realm

Hags can just create more if that happens.

Power Null, or he just teleports away, or he escapes to the shadow realm

Powernull is fair bout I don’t know about the teleportation one. Most of the time when a character manages to escape from a sealing jutsu is via substitution. Even by folks that can use space-time stuff

Probably. But he can also do this

hags has NPi for souls (immaterial), portals (space) and limbo. So smth like atomic intangibles shouldn’t posse any trouble

 

[karo_senpaii]

All previous abilities yada yada

I'm not seeing layered spatial slash prior

Layered?

Yup

I disagree with this but i don't care for skill slops

Yeowun has regeneration negation (High-Mid). Forgot to apply it to his profile but it's accepted here

Hag can always just heal himself with COAT is his regen is negated.

Yeowun can BFR to the shadow realm

How does it work? Coz if it's opening of a portal it just helps hag be able to locate and bring it back

Power Null, or he just teleports away, or he escapes to the shadow realm

Probably. But he can also do this

I think hags resistance to deconstruction just helps him here

 

[karo_senpaii]

For CT I don't think there is anything he can actually do to stop it. He can't power null it, in fact he himself can't even use any abilities to stop it coz it's 2 layers of powernull and 3 layers of sealing. So he probably can't even use an ability to escape.

 

[Testarossa002]

Is that allowed, though I can see it since he has a higher AP

It's something he does in character

A beam of light pierced through the air.
At that, Chun Yeowun held out the hand which was holding the sword.
Jjkkkk!
The space in front of Chun Yeowun immediately twisted like a whirlwind.
And a huge black hole was created into which that beam was sucked.
Swoosh!
‘That?’

Hags can just create more if that happens.

Shadow Realm is an infinite sized space. He can keep sending them there

I don’t know about the teleportation one. Most of the time when a character manages to escape from a sealing jutsu is via substitution. Even by folks that can use space-time stuff

That's probably a skill issue.

hags has NPi for souls (immaterial), portals (space) and limbo. So smth like atomic intangibles shouldn’t posse any trouble

I'm referring to his dura neg capabilities

I'm not seeing layered spatial slash prior

His spatial manipulation is layered. Spatial slash is just an application of his overall manipulation. It's not limited to spatial slash either. Because he can warp space to redirect attacks and dura neg punches

Hag can always just heal himself with COAT is his regen is negated.

fair

How does it work? Coz if it's opening of a portal it just helps hag be able to locate and bring it back

How is hags supposed to access the portal?

So he probably can't even use an ability to escape.

yes he can

Shadow Manipulation, Body Puppetry, Pocket Reality Manipulation, BFR, Possession, Weapon Creation and Dimensional Storage with the abilities of Demon Kyle (He can manipulate an opponent’s movements like a puppeteer and weaponize shadows at will. He now commands the Shadow Realm—an infinite spatial domain—allowing him to instantly teleport himself and others, as well as store objects within it.)

With all I've seen
Yeowun takes this
He can amp himself by 2x with Demonic Energy and 2-3x while in the shadow realm. That's approaching blitz levels of speed. The spatial slash is also a blitz amp, but i left that out for some reason
Furthermore, Yeowun CAN'T be sensed by Hagoromo. He has double-digit layers of ESP AND resistance. Yeowun simply becomes invisible after the first volley of attacks
In addition, Hags has no answer to Heart Sword, which simply spawns inside his heart
Hags AP/LS attacks outside of CT are useless due to varying degrees of attack reflection/damage reduction
Genjutsu is a valid wincon until the nano machines inside Yeowun simply take precautions like shutting down his senses automatically. His sword can also defend him from attacks even if he's incapacitated.
And I know I was joking earlier but the longer the fight drags on, the more likely Yeowun just learns how chakra works and starts using it

 

[AlternativePrinciple]

That's probably a skill issue.

I'm referring to his dura neg capabilities

fair

Yeowun simply becomes invisible after the first volley of attacks

Hags does have 2 layers of invis detection

In addition, Hags has no answer to Heart Sword, which simply spawns inside his heart

His regen and immortality should just negate any disadvantages

Hags AP/LS attacks outside of CT are useless due to varying degrees of attack reflection/damage reduction

Fair

Genjutsu is a valid wincon until the nano machines inside Yeowun simply take precautions like shutting down his senses automatically.

Problem with hags is that we don’t know his movesets. Or else it could’ve ended with this move from the get go

His sword can also defend him from attacks even if he's incapacitated.
And I know I was joking earlier but the longer the fight drags on, the more likely Yeowun just learns how chakra works and starts using it

Nerf your characters man

 

[karo_senpaii]

His spatial manipulation is layered. Spatial slash is just an application of his overall manipulation. It's not limited to spatial slash either. Because he can warp space to redirect attacks and dura neg punches

Okay

fair

How is hags supposed to access the portal?

Once he uses it once hags would immediately have it's coordinates. Kind of how obito could access kaguya's dimensions

yes he can

Thing though is CT is 2 layers of powernull. So unless he has resistance to that in that key then he can't use any abilities

With all I've seen
Yeowun takes this
He can amp himself by 2x with Demonic Energy and 2-3x while in the shadow realm. That's approaching blitz levels of speed. The spatial slash is also a blitz amp, but i left that out for some reason
Furthermore,

Hag can also amp himself with sage mode and shunshin , plus the sharingan reaction speed is just levels above that. I think he'd be fine with speed

Yeowun CAN'T be sensed by Hagoromo. He has double-digit layers of ESP AND resistance. Yeowun simply becomes invisible after the first volley of attacks

If you mean he literally becomes invisible then hags would still see him.
Even if he can't sense him that's still fine. Hags should still have danger sensing from sage mode plus it's not like we haven't seen people fight without sensing in Naruto, basically all otsusuki battles is that.

In addition, Hags has no answer to Heart Sword, which simply spawns inside his heart

I'm pretty sure hag can survive even with out his heart due to his immortality plus he can always heal himself

Hags AP/LS attacks outside of CT are useless due to varying degrees of attack reflection/damage reduction
Genjutsu is a valid wincon until the nano machines inside Yeowun simply take precautions like shutting down his senses automatically. His sword can also defend him from attacks even if he's incapacitated.
And I know I was joking earlier but the longer the fight drags on, the more likely Yeowun just learns how chakra works and starts using it

Hags also has soul manipulation and can use his six path tools to seal him.

Also sealing off his senses would only work if he has prior knowledge because once it affects his senses, it doesn't matter if he shuts them off later, he's already under control. Plus even if he shuts all of them , as a last result he can just cast it on the moon.

Him learning how to use chakra is a bad idea coz hags becomes invunerable to his attacks.


To me hags would definitely treat him as someone like kaguya and go for sealing or genjutsu immediately

 

[Testarossa002]

Hags does have 2 layers of invis detection

I didn't mean it literally

Thing though is CT is 2 layers of powernull. So unless he has resistance to that in that key then he can't use any abilities

• Power Nullification (2 Layers - Despite knowing Yeowun had surpassed the Supreme Master level, Chun Yu-seong confidently attempted to restrain him using power-dampening cuffs—rated over 100× stronger than those used by the Public Bureau—yet they still failed to affect him. Likewise, the Murim Association’s EV Field, capable of negating the energy of Supreme and even Divine Masters, proved completely ineffective against Yeowun)

Also, since when does CT have power null? SPCT has that but even that requires physical contact with the target

Hag can also amp himself with sage mode and shunshin , plus the sharingan reaction speed is just levels above that. I think he'd be fine with speed

That cannot cover a 6x gap is speed. Also, he's a JJ. He already starts in sage mode/spsm

it's not like we haven't seen people fight without sensing in Naruto, basically all otsusuki battles is that.

that works when the other person isn't trying to sneak about

Hags also has soul manipulation and can use his six path tools to seal him.

Aside from the fact that the tools need to fulfil some requirements, he already resists soul manipulation

Also sealing off his senses would only work if he has prior knowledge because once it affects his senses, it doesn't matter if he shuts them off later, he's already under control.

It detects the issue before he gets affected but whatever

Him learning how to use chakra is a bad idea coz hags becomes invunerable to his attacks.

scenes when Yeowun starts using Six Paths Chakra

sealing or genjutsu immediately

sealing can't hold him in place
genjutsu could work but they start 4km apart

 

[karo_senpaii]

Also, since when does CT have power null? SPCT has that but even that requires physical contact with the target

Yeah I meant SPCT. He can't always hold him in place with telekinesis and use SPCT. It also has 3layers of sealing

That cannot cover a 6x gap is speed. Also, he's a JJ. He already starts in sage mode/spsm

It won't cover it but it would help him not get blitzed. Especially sharingan reactions. Also he has normal sage mode. It's impossible for him to always be in sage mode .

that works when the other person isn't trying to sneak about

It's an open battle field. There's not much that can be done to sneak around

Aside from the fact that the tools need to fulfil some requirements, he already resists soul manipulation

Soul manipulation has different types. This type is sealing your soul, it's difference from conventional soul manipulation which just attacks the soul

It detects the issue before he gets affected but whatever

He can still cast IT without it though

scenes when Yeowun starts using Six Paths Chakra

Not how it works .

sealing can't hold him in place
genjutsu could work but they start 4km apart

The sealing is layered so it could. iT can cover a planetary range so he can also do that

 

[R81handman]

if speed is equalized, Hagoromo only best option to win are TSO and Six Paths Chibaku Tensei(2 Layers of Power Null & 3 layers of sealing). from what I can see of Yeowun profile and the pages you posted is that he only has resistance to 1 layer power null. and EE resistance. Also Hagoromo has 7 Layers of illusion, perception, mind, manipulation via the layers of genjutsu potency and resistance via Infinite Tsukuyomi. so Hags will just cast IT or seal him up with Six Paths CT

 

[DavidTPPM]

David’s crying in the corner

I'm heartbroken

 

[KingTempest]

Does he not blatantly need Hamura to use SPCT?

 

[Testarossa002]

He can't always hold him in place with telekinesis

i think you meant CAN. Anyway

Also

Also he has normal sage mode. It's impossible for him to always be in sage mode .

Can he stack sage mode ON TOP of SPSM? That's news to me

The sealing is layered so it could.

layered means nothing if the person can just bypass it

iT can cover a planetary range so he can also do that

Hardly an opening move

1 layer power null

has to 2 layers of resistance actually
Again
Sealing is a non issue when the target can just teleport away. It's not as if the sealing K.Os him

 

[karo_senpaii]

i think you meant CAN. Anyway


Can he stack sage mode ON TOP of SPSM? That's news to me

layered means nothing if the person can just bypass it

Hardly an opening move

has to 2 layers of resistance actually
Again
Sealing is a non issue when the target can just teleport away. It's not as if the sealing K.Os him

I think we've gone back and forth enough. Last thing I'd say is for the sealing, no matter where he teleports to it doesn't change the fact that he is the celestial core now. It's not like normal CT that you'd just move somewhere else out of range and you're good. He is the range, if he goes somewhere else the process just continues . Maybe his shadow realm is different or something but if he comes back it would still continue

 

[Testarossa002]

He needs to touch him to cast SPCT
Which is never happening

 

[karo_senpaii]

Does he not blatantly need Hamura to use SPCT?

He has both seals

He needs to touch him to cast SPCT
Which is never happening

He's got like different kinds of illusion and perception manipulation and telekinesis. He could pull it off

 

[Testarossa002]

He's got like different kinds of illusion and perception manipulation

not from 4km away and global IT isn't really an opening move

telekinesis.

covered by attack reflection

 

[AlternativePrinciple]

Voting for the Mori knockoff

 

[Testarossa002]

Voting for the Mori knockoff

counted

 

[DavidTPPM]

So what was the answer to ameno+spct or BT+spct?

 

[AlternativePrinciple]

So what was the answer to ameno+spct or BT+spct?

Resists BFR and can black hole CT

 

[DavidTPPM]

Then ig you can count me for Yeowun