Nil (Her Tears Were My Light)

[Bernkastelll]

Nil (Her Tears Were My Light)

I am Nil. Emptiness... Void... Whatever you want to call me. Nil is the nothing that existed before something. Tier: 2-C Name: Nil Origin: Her Tears Were My Light Age: Immeasurable; Nil predates Time itself, which only began to exist when she willed it to be so Gender: Female Classification...

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Abstract Existence (Type 1; Nil is the very concept of nothingness

that's wrong, she is not the concept of nothingness, she is the Lack of Everything, the lack of all concepts of the entire existence

her AE type 1 need to be rmeoved

 

[Bernkastelll]

 

[Urshani]

gordo mamon

i agree with the crt

 

[Delta333]

Lacking concept of universe doesn't contradict to being concept of nothingess tho

 

[Bernkastelll]

Lacking concept of universe doesn't contradict to being concept of nothingess tho

It never is stated that she is the concept of nothingness, it only mentions that she is the lack of something

 

[Dereck03]

It never is stated that she is the concept of nothingness, it only mentions that she is the lack of something

Something is everything right?

 

[azontr]

Something is everything right?

Logic 100

 

[Bernkastelll]

Something is everything right?

Yeah, in the Her Tears Were My Light, yeah, as Space is rated as Everything and also Something, while Nil is the nothingness, the lack of Something

 

[Dereck03]

IIRC something in the verse is the universe or everything in the verse, so nothingness

 

[Dereck03]

Then she lack of something, she could be only nothingness so she should embody nothingness

 

[Bernkastelll]

Then she lack of something, she could be only nothingness so she should embody nothingness

but the definition of her current NEP is due actually being the nothingness, the lack of everything, i dont think that she could get AE 1 due it

 

[Dereck03]

but the definition of her current NEP is due actually being the nothingness, the lack of everything, i dont think that she could get AE 1 due it

Huh.... I thought you guys were questioning her NEP2.... Also being the nothingness means embodying the nothingness. So I think AE 1 based on that seems legit

 

[Bernkastelll]

Huh.... I thought you guys were questioning her NEP2....

Oh, I am not, her NEP 2 is legit

Also being the nothingness means embodying the nothingness. So I think AE 1 based on that seems legit

it being said that she embodies nothingness should be fine, but i think that the part of ''concept of nothingness'' does not

 

[Delta333]

Just go to ask the dude who upgraded CM type 1 for Nil,he said that if Space is concept then Nil should be the same since their existence are same level,in fact Space is just the anti-self of Nil

 

[Dereck03]

Just go to ask the dude who upgraded CM type 1 for Nil,he said that if Space is concept then Nil should be the same since their existence are same level,in fact Space is just the anti-self of Nil

Weird. Nil is the strongest existence in her verse

 

[Bernkastelll]

Just go to ask the dude who upgraded CM type 1 for Nil,he said that if Space is concept then Nil should be the same since their existence are same level,in fact Space is just the anti-self of Nil

I think thats the proof that Nil is not a Conceptual existence, as they are oposites, Space is Something while Nil is the opposite, she is nothing, a pure lack of everything, thats the reason to her NEP 2

 

[Delta333]

Weird. Nil is the strongest existence in her verse

It's not about the power, but the state of existence tho

I think thats the proof that Nil is not a Conceptual existence, as they are oposites, Space is Something while Nil is the opposite, she is nothing, a pure lack of everything, thats the reason to her NEP 2

Well Oblivion in Marvel is same and he has both

 

[Dereck03]

It's not about the power, but the state of existence tho

Ah. I misunderstood
Also we could said that they are equal but opposites due to their nature as nothingness and everything

 

[Bernkastelll]

Well Oblivion in Marvel is same and he has both

I don't really know about this scaling in Marvel, but it seems that Oblivion case is a bit different, as while he is NEP 2, his ''form'' is also just a Pure Illusion, which also fits to AE type 1

 

[Bernkastelll]

, his ''form'' is also just a Pure Illusion, which also fits to AE type 1

Also, wow, this scan is dope

 

[Delta333]

I mean Oblivion has both despite he is NEP type 2 and it doesn't really contradict,for Nil's reason,her existence is equal to Space and while Space is the concept of everything,Nil is the concept of nothing,that's where the opposition comes from,not because one is concept and one is not concept

 

[Bernkastelll]

I mean Oblivion has both despite he is NEP type 2 and it doesn't really contradict,for Nil's reason,her existence is equal to Space and while Space is the concept of everything,Nil is the concept of nothing,that's where the opposition comes from,not because one is concept and one is not concept

There is no source that tells that Nil is a Concept, only sources that tells that she is the lack of it, they are Opposite, yeah, but thats because Space is Everything while Nil is Nothing

 

[Delta333]

There is no source that tells that Nil is a Concept, only sources that tells that she is the lack of it, they are Opposite, yeah, but thats because Space is Everything while Nil is Nothing

Source is no needed when Nil described Space as "new me",which is enough to prove that their existences are same

 

[Bernkastelll]

Source is no needed when Nil described Space as "new me",which is enough to prove that their existences are same

Nil also rates Space as when she changes from nothing to something, and i dont think that ''new me'' is even enough, as they clearly had changes

 

[Delta333]

Nil also rates Space as when she changes from nothing to something, and i dont think that ''new me'' is even enough, as they clearly had changes

She changes what she embodies,not her existence,old Nil embodies nothing while new Nil embodies everything,yes "new me" is enough and that statement is not wrong definitely since she knew everything about herself lol

 

[Bernkastelll]

She changes what she embodies,not her existence,old Nil embodies nothing while new Nil embodies everything,yes "new me" is enough and that statement is not wrong definitely since she knew everything about herself lol

What is the evidence that she does embodies a concept? she is described as the lack of it, ''new me'' is not enough, it just means that Nil is not Nothing anymore

 

[Urshani]

agree with crt

like i agree to everything even about verses i know next to nothing about

 

[Bernkastelll]

Anyways, i will come back to answer this thread tomorrow, i will either be

1-Busy
2-Tired
3-Drunk
4-Sleeping
5-not wanting to answer this thread for now
6-idk, some reason there to not answer today

 

[Dereck03]

Anyways, i will come back to answer this thread tomorrow, i will either be

1-Busy
2-Tired
3-Drunk
4-Sleeping
5-not wanting to answer this thread for now
6-idk, some reason there to not answer today

Time to spam your pm

 

[Delta333]

What is the evidence that she does embodies a concept? she is described as the lack of it, ''new me'' is not enough, it just means that Nil is not Nothing anymore

Evidence...like I said her existence is same as Space...so if Space is conceptual then Nil is same...it's really easy to understand tho
"New me" means Space is actually Nil lol,changing from nothing to everything just simply means adding universe to nothingness,no statement said that she changes her state of existence at all

 

[Harith0cell]

Agreed with op

 

[Deleted member 11410]

I agree.

 

[azontr]

I agree.

Welp, we've got Shizuka's approval. Time to apply.

 

[NothingToDebateWith]

Hmm.

Would this be enough to reduce the questions in people's mind?

 

[Delta333]

https://vsbattles.com/threads/a-small-change-for-nil.57136/#post-1902497

^^^

 

[Worthless]

My man sounds so bored to the point of just randomly answering whatever the question throws at him by saying Yes without actually knowing what shit they're talking lmao