Nightmare upgrade

[Driger-God]

In Doctor Strange, when Nightmare and the other Fear Lords are begin listed in the Book of Vishant, it's said how powerfull they are . Also, in another part of the book Dweller said that him and Nightmare are from a realm above the Sixth Dimension, a universe called Everinnye . 2 Also, the Realm of Nightmare, the Dream Dimension is said to be a Higher Realm , also the Nightmare and the Dream Dimension are one. In another comic, Dream Dimension is described as a realm beyond our perceptions of time and space . Nightmare and Dream Dimension are at least 7D

 

[Alonik]

That's pretty coherent with 1-C, and I agree with that. But we need more entrances here.

 

[Antvasima]

It seems like outliers, or that higher dimensions are not treated like higher infinities here.

 

[Driger-God]

I don't see this as a outlier, Nightmare is a abstract being. Like Dormammu, and other being, Nightmare is part of higher system.

 

[Antvasima]

It would scale them too high compared to regular cosmic beings, and based on their actual feats. Sorry.

You can ask Matthew to comment here if you wish though.

 

[LordTracer]

This lines up pretty well with what was in this thread, where it seemed to be agreed upon that Dormammu was also a higher-dimensional being.

 

[Antvasima]

Yes, but his actual scale of power at best only seems to be of universal Eternity's level.

You can ask the following members to comment here for further input:

Matthew Schroeder, Sandman31, Azathoth the Abyssal Idiot, Ryukama, Reppuzan, Shivansh Garg, KLOL506, TheC2, Crimson Azoth, Eficiente, Sera EX, Kepekley23, Huesito88, Yobo Blue, PrinceOfTheMorning.

 

[The_2nd_Existential_Seed]

Hmm... To be the fairest I can be here without saying "outlier"... The Universal Abstracts also view Overspace in a similar manner (Ant-Man referrs to it as such twice when he ventured)... SO I'd say it definitely isn't out of the realm of possibility.

 

[Driger-God]

Seed, as you see the relation of Abstract Being with Antrophormorfic race.

Anthropormorfic Race have a symbiotic relationship with each abstract , and the abstract uses their body.. The SuperSpace in this comic where the abstract interact is the Anthropormorfic dimension ?

 

[Driger-God]

I believe that the great problem in this scale is the others abstracts, but, others abstract have feats in this level or above. I see many feats or mentions ignored of all Character for "scale" with other. [Classic] Chaos and Order realm is called of Nexus of Reality, a place beyond all dichotmies, and scource of existence, a world beyond In-Betweener power, and beyond the myriad dimensional, and other planes of existence . Also, Classic In-Betweener have many mentions at least above 1-C "There is little that remains hidden from me. Strange. I wal the path between all worlds... all concepts... light and dark... reality and illusion.. fact and fancy" "I shall show you the extent of my power. As you can see, you are quite helpless trapped between levels of reality. Such is but a fraction of my powers, for I can affect all reality, all fantasy"

You have in classic comic, In-Betweener assuming being a concept of all worlds, and can control all levels of reality, and the Nexus of Reality of Chaos and Order above all worlds or concept, as scource of the existence. This mention is 1-C or above. The Celesials are entity stronger than the cosmic cube as Kubik, and Kubik can destroy all existence, all dimensions and universes adjacent


Nightmare as Eternity said control all worlds, in all time. "As long as Eternity is mine. I wield the sceptre of power over all the Earths that were and tha ever shall be!" Nightmare is a conceptual entity, part of all existence as Eternity. "I'm a conceptual entity, Strange... as much a part of all existence as Eternity himself" Dormammu have many mentions about high dimensional.

Nightmare, Galactus, Celestial, Dormammu, Chaos, Order and others are at least 1-C

 

[The_2nd_Existential_Seed]

I understood their relationship and how the avatars work there as well. Ironically it also supports the fact that Celestials have aspects... But I'm not going over that in this thread.

Hmmm... That is a lot... But most of the scans seem extremely accurate surprisingly. I would like more input from those knowledgable members though.

 

[Antvasima]

Marvel is extremely inconsistent regarding cosmic entity power levels, including in relation to each other. You should ask the members that I mentioned earlier to comment here in any case.