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So I have a calc that'll downgrade the lifting strength from T to G. But I don't know when a calc mod will approve of that. So in the mean time I thought I'd get this underway.
So there are 2 paths forward in regards to the anime. One is to add the new stuff in the anime to the existing profile. The other is to make a separate profile for them.
I've already had a few people say they don't think a new profile is necessary. So the current proposal is to just add to the existing one.
New Calcs
No2's Anime distance: Large Town
Eve's Tornado: Small City
Grun Slap: Mountain+
New abilities:
YoRHa
Base - Forcefield Creation (Protected by Passive Energy Shields)
Pod - (change) Electricity Manipulation (Via A150 Volt, releasing area attack limiters blankets an area in electricity)
Adam - Weapon Creation (created a perfect replica of 2B's sword in his hands)
Not anime but the profiles should have these abilities.
Eve - Weather Manipulation (created a tornado)
Adam & Eve - Attack Reflection via Forcefield Creation (Can create Barriers which shield him from all kinds of damage and additionally either reflect long range attacks or bounce back close combat attacks)
I don't know what ability Adam's kaiju counts as.
New Scan
A2 Full Stops an Engle's punch
Ok, so the other thing I'd like to clean up is intelligence.
Intelligence
When first creating the profiles I thought intelligence was just how smart they are. But I see people assigning values to their combat skills as well. Also the machines in the Nier profiles need their intelligence cleaned up.
Examples
The Shi-balls and Engles
Intelligence: Average
Beauvoir
Intelligence: High. Connected to Machine Network and can access all of its data. But due to its obsession with wanting to become beautiful, its mental state has deteriorated. Is capable of hacking.
Grun
Intelligence: High (Connected to Machine network and can access all of its data)
As you can see, nondescript and inconsistent
Scroll past the first profile and you'll see my proposals for the intelligence of the characters.
Now you may ask what makes A2 and 2B qualify for extraordinary genius combatant as opposed to genius combatant which is supposed to be the default in the absence of good feats. Also why 9S only got gifted.
So the qualifier for extraordinary genius is they need to demonstrate at minimum superhuman feats and over multiple fields. So in the case of combat skill they need to be superhumanly skilled or scale to someone who is.
And in Nier we have a character who fits that. That being both Adam and Eve. Both of whom could learn so fast Adam when from catatonic newborn to being able to fight on par with 2B and 9S after being attacked by them for a few seconds. And we see from the corpses in copied city that he's able to defeat other YoRHa. By the time he died, Adam had been alive for several months. So his defeat is not the result of not learning enough.
Here is a quote from the novelization showing the learning as well. He started dodging after getting hit several times and even his first attack was clumsy. So he was not programmed with knowledge on how to fight but learned everything.
2B and A2 should both be scaled to Adam's combat skills. And they know sword, large sword, spear, gaunlets, unarmed, and can even pair these weapons up with each other or dual wield them. Or quad-wield in the case of the gauntlets.
In the 2B/9S partnership 2B was the frontline combat unit with 9S in support. 9S is not a combat unit at all.
And finally, unlike 9S, 2B has taken on Adam solo.
So there are 2 paths forward in regards to the anime. One is to add the new stuff in the anime to the existing profile. The other is to make a separate profile for them.
I've already had a few people say they don't think a new profile is necessary. So the current proposal is to just add to the existing one.
New Calcs
No2's Anime distance: Large Town
Eve's Tornado: Small City
Grun Slap: Mountain+
New abilities:
YoRHa
Base - Forcefield Creation (Protected by Passive Energy Shields)
Pod - (change) Electricity Manipulation (Via A150 Volt, releasing area attack limiters blankets an area in electricity)
Adam - Weapon Creation (created a perfect replica of 2B's sword in his hands)
Not anime but the profiles should have these abilities.
Eve - Weather Manipulation (created a tornado)
Adam & Eve - Attack Reflection via Forcefield Creation (Can create Barriers which shield him from all kinds of damage and additionally either reflect long range attacks or bounce back close combat attacks)
I don't know what ability Adam's kaiju counts as.
New Scan
A2 Full Stops an Engle's punch
Ok, so the other thing I'd like to clean up is intelligence.
Intelligence
When first creating the profiles I thought intelligence was just how smart they are. But I see people assigning values to their combat skills as well. Also the machines in the Nier profiles need their intelligence cleaned up.
Intelligence
Intelligence is a word that is incredibly difficult to define, as it has been used to refer to many things, such as one's ability to process information, or their capacity for logic, self-awareness, creativity, reasoning, and/or problem solving, or their knowledge and memory. In its fullest...
vsbattles.fandom.com
Examples
The Shi-balls and Engles
Intelligence: Average
Beauvoir
Intelligence: High. Connected to Machine Network and can access all of its data. But due to its obsession with wanting to become beautiful, its mental state has deteriorated. Is capable of hacking.
Grun
Intelligence: High (Connected to Machine network and can access all of its data)
As you can see, nondescript and inconsistent
TheAngryOrange/sandbox
vsbattles.fandom.com
Scroll past the first profile and you'll see my proposals for the intelligence of the characters.
Now you may ask what makes A2 and 2B qualify for extraordinary genius combatant as opposed to genius combatant which is supposed to be the default in the absence of good feats. Also why 9S only got gifted.
So the qualifier for extraordinary genius is they need to demonstrate at minimum superhuman feats and over multiple fields. So in the case of combat skill they need to be superhumanly skilled or scale to someone who is.
And in Nier we have a character who fits that. That being both Adam and Eve. Both of whom could learn so fast Adam when from catatonic newborn to being able to fight on par with 2B and 9S after being attacked by them for a few seconds. And we see from the corpses in copied city that he's able to defeat other YoRHa. By the time he died, Adam had been alive for several months. So his defeat is not the result of not learning enough.
Here is a quote from the novelization showing the learning as well. He started dodging after getting hit several times and even his first attack was clumsy. So he was not programmed with knowledge on how to fight but learned everything.
2B stopped thinking, and struck with her sword. Appearance aside, it was a Machine after all. It was better to destroy it quickly. A red liquid similar to blood gushed out. It was completely different from a Machine’s oil. The man retreated, wounded but not fatally so. Groans escaped his mouth.
2B continued to attack, unable to inflict fatal damage. The man’s movements were unexpectedly fast.
2B exchanged her large sword for her military sword. Using a large sword, her attacks were inevitably slow. No matter how strong a blow was, if it didn’t hit the target it was useless.
“And…r01d…”
The groans turned into words. It wasn’t surprising, as on the way they had witnessed many Machines who made word-like sounds. But…
“D0dge… Sw0rd…”
2B’s relatively quick attacks cut at empty air. The man had cultivated evasive maneuvers. On top of that, his previous wounds had sealed up. It meant that he had self-regenerative abilities. Perhaps he had just acquired those as well.
Suddenly, the man crouched and swung a leg up. It was a clumsy attempt to counterattack.
“It’s evolving?” 2B said. It had learning capabilities far exceeding the average Machine. It was preposterous to think that he had learned to evade and attack in such a short battle. He was going to be a tough opponent.
“2B, let’s put an end to this quickly!”
The longer the battle lasted, the more the man would learn. Their instincts to abolish the enemy quickly were in no way misguided.
2B and A2 should both be scaled to Adam's combat skills. And they know sword, large sword, spear, gaunlets, unarmed, and can even pair these weapons up with each other or dual wield them. Or quad-wield in the case of the gauntlets.
In the 2B/9S partnership 2B was the frontline combat unit with 9S in support. 9S is not a combat unit at all.
And finally, unlike 9S, 2B has taken on Adam solo.
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