New P&A Proposal - Hive Mind

[Sir_Ovens]

Ok, so it came to my attention that this power did not exist despite many mainstream characters having it.

Here is a draft of the page.

That can be left up to revision and polish, but what I want to talk about is the specifics of such an ability and who it will apply to.

So we know what a Hive Mind is on paper, but to put it bluntly, it is a single consciousness spread across multiple bodies. For mainstream examples think Unity from Rick and Morty or Tyranids from Warhammer 40,000. The former is an example of a true singular entity possessing multiple bodies. The latter is an example of a shared mind that is linked to each other but each individual instance has its own personality, consciousness, agenda, etc.

The benefits of such an ability would include not dying when one instance is killed, sharing information between instances to boost the overall efficiency of the group, coordination, etc.

More can be discussed below.​

 

[Confluctor]

I think you linked the wrong sandbox

 

[Sir_Ovens]

No it's the correct sandbox. The ability draft is at the bottom.

 

[Confluctor]

Ah. To me it was the abyss one and got confused

 

[Vietthai96]

I agree with this

 

[Armorchompy]

not opposed

 

[Damage3245]

Looks good to me.

 

[Sir_Ovens]

I'm gonna ping Ant cause he's gonna wanna see this.

@Antvasima

 

[Starter_Pack]

This seems fine.

 

[Antvasima]

This seems uncontroversial to me as well.

 

[Sus]

Well i agree, but isn't this a form of multiple selves?

 

[Sir_Ovens]

This is inverse. This is one entity/consciousness as opposed to numeral inhabiting multiple bodies instead of a singular one.

 

[Sir_Ovens]

Also, if everyone is in agreement with the addition of this ability, we should work on finding out who should get it.

 

[Vietthai96]

Well this is sad then, all of the verse i known and support don't have anyone, sorry Oven

 

[SamanPatou]

I agree with it.

Najimi Ajimu is a candidate, tho I can't grab the scans right now.

 

[Starter_Pack]

Would certain Pokémon fall under this category, then? Ones like Dugtrio, Magneton or Dragapult?

 

[SamanPatou]

Only if it's proven that they share the same mind, otherwise it's Multiple Selves type 3 due to them being 3 physical beings forming a single one.

The difference between what qualifies for Hive Mind and what for Multiple Selves stands in the number of the actual entities.
A single body with multiple minds/souls/physical beings is Multiple Selves.
Multiple bodies having a single mind/soul is Hive Mind.

 

[Sir_Ovens]

Besides the guys listed on the page, off the top of my head:

The Kaiju from Pacific Rim

Starro from DCEU

Mouth from Grappler Baki

Ultron from MCU

Mu Siyun from Iron Ladies

The Arachnids from Starship Troopers

The Zerg Swarm from Starcraft

Sigma from Mega Man

 

[Nullflowerblush]

Cerberus from Helltaker is one demon mind and soul divided among three bodies, but she is not as notable as Unity or Ultron.

 

[Sus]

Some characters from Digimon would have it too

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

Cybermen are Hive mind in some level (They can use the processing power of each existing unit, find out what happens to anyone although some have personality and others exist outside of Cybermind or "Afterlife")

 

[KieranH10]

This also seems fine to me!

I would note another common weakness would be that normally if the Hivemind is destroyed or harmed in some way, everybody under its influence is generally affected.

 

[Rez]

Also, if everyone is in agreement with the addition of this ability, we should work on finding out who should get it.

Some that I remember of the top of my head are
From prototype: (Type 1)
Elizabeth Greene
Supreme Hunter
And to a lesser extent Alex Mercer

From Fate: (Type 2)
Goetia

From To aru: (Type 1)
Kakine

From gurren lagan: (not sure if it's type one or two)
The Anti spiral

 

[Rez]

I think Utsuro from Gintama also qualifies for type 2

 

[Colonel_Krukov]

I think all Terminator models possess this due to being part of Skynet. The Borg from Star Trek most certainly do.

(I agree with the proposals btw)

 

[Randomlamdom]

Kyubey is type 1

 

[Mr. Bambu]

I already spoke to Ovens about this. Not opposed at all.

 

[Antvasima]

I think that this has sufficient support to be applied then.

 

[Sir_Ovens]

Alright, I'll compile a list and make the necessary adjustments.

 

[TheUnshakableOne]

How would mind hax affect a hive minded being?

 

[Sir_Ovens]

I think that would be case by case since individuals in Type 2 Hive Minds would probably still be affected by mind manipulation themselves but not the hive.

Type 1s would require manipulation of the whole hive to affect the entity. This is unless the fiction depicts manipulation of a single instance affecting the whole hive. Otherwise I believe we should default to the former.

 

[Valiant_Abyss]

Knull from Marvel Comics could apply to this.

 

[Sir_Ovens]

It will take me some time to make all the adjustments so I'll leave this thread open until I'm done.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. No problem.

 

[Antoniofer]

So the equivalent of these Hive Mind and Multi-Hive Mind, not really opposed to the power, no. However, Type 1 do not quite sounds like Hive Mind, is more akin to a character mind controlling directly a bunch of people or manifesting through aspects or minor embodiments. Also feel it could be expanded, instead of Hive Mind it can be named Hive Trait or similar, and could involve two or more characters sharing senses, minds, souls, etc.

 

[Sir_Ovens]

I have added Hive Mind to several pages already. I think it's best if everyone adds Hive Mind to any page I left out. Link this thread to them when you make the adjustment.

 

[Antvasima]

Thank you for helping out. Should we close this thread then?

 

[Colonel_Krukov]

Should be okay to

 

[Antvasima]

Okay.