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Natsu vs. Ash & Greninja

Hst master said:
Greninja is room level its a stomp in Natsu's favor
Tier on pokemon didn't makeany sense. Ash's Sceptile and Charizard beat country level legendaries, 8-C Pikachu eays beat 7-A tyranitar and 6-A Regice.
 
They are outliers, like the legendaries.


But, with your logic, in the games your Pokemon can't surpass and grew stronger
 
Hst master said:
AidenBrooks999 said:
Greninja Stomps.


Fire Resistance and considerably higher AP.
Greninja is room level its a stomp in Natsu's favor
This is Ash's Greninja, not just some random Greninja, Ash's profile has his strongest pokemon listed as at least mountain level which is the same as Natsu.
 
Tyranitar is casual mountain buster, and this was a well trained one, AND greninja matched MEGA Charizard. Ash-Greninja >> Natsu in AP. And has Fire Resistance.


He wins
 
That's true, Natsu can attack with combined elements of both fire and lightning by devouring lightning attacks. But with the Greninja's decent speed, it can outmaneuver Natsu's Lightning Fire attack spells.
 
Wouldn't dragon force, lightning flame dragon mode or fire dragon king mode drastically increase Natsu's speed, power, durability and strength. I think this is a mismatch. Natsu is much more powerful and can take water attacks, even vaporize it in matters of seconds. There is no restriction to Natsu using modes so, Natsu would definitely win. Even if Greninja is fire resistance due to being water type, it can still take massive amounts of damage if the fire is too strong. I mean come on, it got defeated by a Blast Burn. And people tend to forget that Natsu has superior senses of smell and hearing. I don't know why some people think Greninja would win unless some of you are Natsu haters.
 
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