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Natsu has battle experience and can eat arcanines strongest attacks. The only problem would be ground moves but field moves have shown to be ineffective against natsu like against bluenote. Natsu takes this low-mid diff.
 
Brighthanabi said:
Natsu has battle experience and can eat arcanines strongest attacks. The only problem would be ground moves but field moves have shown to be ineffective against natsu like against bluenote. Natsu takes this low-mid diff.
Except you left out the fact that Natsu has nothing to counter Arcanine mind controlling him with a bark.
 
Flash Fire: Powers up Fire-type moves if hit by one.

This sounds more like Arcanine's moves get stronger if it gets hit by fire, not that it isn't damaged.
 
I wouldn't have brought it up if I didn't k is the mechanics of it. Flash Fire negates Fire Type attacks and gives Arcanine's own fire moves a match-lasting boost.
 
What is Arcanine's AP? I went from Arcanine to Charizard to Dugtrio who did have an explanation of Magnitude 8 earthquakes but I don't know the number for that in gigatons.
 
294 gigatons.

@Pachi.

Its magnificent bark conveys a sense of majesty. Anyone hearing it can't help but grovel before it.
~ Silver/Soul Silver/Y Pokédex​
 
The real cal howard said:
Give me a break I didn't know what other thing to call it ovo.
Empathic manipulation? He inspires respect, I guess.

I wouldnt call it anything tbh. It looks like flowery language to me.
 
When have pokedexes, state-of-the-art scientific equipment, ever used flowery language, PaChi?

Before you say anything, those are outliers, not hyperbole.
 
The real cal howard said:
When have pokedexes, state-of-the-art scientific equipment, ever used flowery language, PaChi?
Arcanine:

Red/Blue: A Pokémon that has been admired since the past for its beauty. It runs agilely as if on wings.

Stadium: A Pokémon whose beauty is legendary in China. It is said to run gracefully and lightly, as if it were flying.

Gold: This legendary Chinese Pokémon is considered magnificent. Many people are enchanted by its grand mane.

Sun: Overflowing with beauty and majesty, this strong Pokémon appears in ancient Eastern folklore.
 
The real cal howard said:
Why are the Gold and Sun entries there? And similes aren't flowery language.
Arcanine's entries are all praising its beauty and majesty. But saying that it becomes mind manipulation is... Welp.

Sun: "Overflowing with beauty and majesty" aint really scientific.

Gold: "It is said to run gracefully and lightly, as if on wings".
 
Natsu's >>228 gigatons, so the AP difference is negligible. The two would both stop using fire attacks after realizing that the other gets stronger from it. I'm going to vote Natsu since he is intelligent enough to memorize Arcanine's fighting style after a few seconds after fighting him and has more stamina. While Arcanine can run for 24 hours, Natsu's almost fought for an entire day while constantly going against and taking hits from people at the same or higher tiers. The anger power up is only going to help.
 
As long as Arcanine has Mind Manipulation he wins, although I see it as questionable, but we can discuss that in the Content Revision board.
 
DragonEmperor23 said:
Natsu's >>228 gigatons, so the AP difference is negligible. The two would both stop using fire attacks after realizing that the other gets stronger from it. I'm going to vote Natsu since he is intelligent enough to memorize Arcanine's fighting style after a few seconds after fighting him and has more stamina. While Arcanine can run for 24 hours, Natsu's almost fought for an entire day while constantly going against and taking hits from people at the same or higher tiers. The anger power up is only going to help.
I'm sure Arcanine would have more advantage when it comes to fire, since he can absorb fire and make most of Natsu's attacks pointless if not all (since Basically High 6-C Natsu only uses the fire element to fight and does not use his lightnings or another), why would Natsu memorize the fighting style of a quadruped being? Natsu practically fights in CQC and uses his ranged attacks to cut distance between his opponents. I'm sure it was not specified in FT how long it lasted the war (or final) of the war against the Spriggan or has no time said or specified, it may have been hours, and then Arcanine has advantage of stamina and also Arcanine has other methods to fight beyond fire unlike Natsu.
 
In case someone brings it up, fire boosted physical attacks don't work on Arcanine, as Flash Fire still activates on Blaze Kick, Fire Punch, Flare Blitz, Flame Wheel, etc.

Also, this is its complete learnset since Growlithe. Not just biting moves + Extremespeed.

1 Bite Dark Physical 60 100% 25

1 Roar Normal Status — —% 20

6 Ember Fire Special 40 100% 25

8 Leer Normal Status — 100% 30

10 Odor Sleuth Normal Status — —% 40

12 Helping Hand Normal Status — —% 20

17 Flame Wheel Fire Physical 60 100% 25

19 Reversal Fight Physical — 100% 15

21 Fire Fang Fire Physical 65 95% 15

23 Take Down Normal Physical 90 85% 20

28 Flame Burst Fire Special 70 100% 15

30 Agility Psychic Status — —% 30

32 Retaliate Normal Physical 70 100% 5

34 Flamethrower Fire Special 90 100% 15

39 Crunch Dark Physical 80 100% 15

41 Heat Wave Fire Special 95 90% 10

43 Outrage Dragon Physical 120 100% 10

45 Flare Blitz Fire Physical 120 100% 15
 
How would it have the advantage when they both absorb fire and neg being hurt by it? What you do mean why, it's a fight that's like saying why would he try to win. Arcanine's only other move besides fire is biting with thunder fang and Natsu could just eat that and stack the lightning on his current transformation.

Stamina: Fought through the second day of the war against the Alvarez Empire, including opponents the likes of Zeref and Acnologia (with only one rest due to being in a coma from nearly becoming a demon) and still had little strength left.). Can eat fire to restore his magic power and stamina.
 
No. It does leave Arcanine confused due to fatigue after 2-3 uses though.

Also, Arcanine's stamina scales far above Raticate, who can swim across oceans, and somewhat lesser than Poliwrath, who experiences literally no stamina decrease.
 
I see, that takes the stamina part out of my reasons but the battle shouldn't take that long to be concluded so my other points still stand.
 
The real cal howard said:
No. It does leave Arcanine confused due to fatigue after 2-3 uses though.

Also, Arcanine's stamina scales far above Raticate, who can swim across oceans, and somewhat lesser than Poliwrath, who experiences literally no stamina decrease.
Erm. Raticate is sub rel, how long would that be? Minutes? Ovo
 
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