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Hi, i wanted to talk about some possible upgrades for various characters.

We'll start with Aoko Aozaki. In Type Moon Fourth Character Poll she was stated to be the strongest magic user :

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Here is the quote: 最強のマジックユーザー。If translated, it says that she is the most powerful magic user, which should make her superior to Zelretch. So she should get Low 1-C, possibly 1-C for when she uses her magic.




The second character is Araya Souren. This also comes from Type Moon Fourth Character Poll:

"A boss character with excellent long-range attacks and a powerful fighting style befitting his imposing stature. An all-rounder capable of fighting from any range, Araya is a Power Type on par with Nrvnqsr and Kishima Kouma."

This is also seemingly referenced in Melty Blood, where Shiki Ryougi commented that Nrvnqsr was easier to defeat than Araya.

So Araya should be upgraded to 6-C, Low 6-B with magecraft (since he should be capable of generating an amount of power comparable to that of Nero's strongest beasts).
This would also apply to Kouma Kishima, who should get a likely Low 6-B due to being equal to Nrvnqsr.




Now we move on Ryougi Shiki.

In Melty Blood Actress Again, Ryougi defeated Nrvnqsr Chaos and even called him a "trash tier monster". This should be mentioned in her speed section.

She also has this statement: "A listless girl who who wears both Eastern and Western clothes by wearing a leather jacket on top of her kimono. A character that seems have to have taken only the best parts of two characters: Tohno Shiki's Mystic Eyes of Death Perception and Nanaya Shiki's Nanaya Techniques. Every movement is high-spec, with no opening in either her offense or defense. However, attacks that do not use either her knife or her katana deal surprisingly low damage".- Character Introduction from Tsukihime's fourth Character Popularity Poll

This means that she should be comparable to Nanaya.

My proposal would be to change her speed justification to Massively Hypersonic reactions and combat speed (Easily defeated Nrvnqsr Chaos. Stated to be comparable to Nanaya Shiki)

Also, she should be upgraded to 6-C because she was able to scar Araya during their first encounter without her Mystic Eyes. her durability should also be upgraded to 6-C due to barely surviving a punch from Araya.


Most importantly, she is missing a key for when she wields her katana and activates her self hypnosis ability. it is an entirely different state compared to her usual knife wielding self:

"A long, long, time ago. Samurai had been said to accept killing and be killed naturally the moment their swords were drawn. This wasn't because of an emotional state as a warrior. The instant they gripped the handle, they would awaken.

Their bodies transform into ones existing only for killing, their brains turn into ones moving only for survival.

This wasn't beyond the level of bracing oneself before a match. By drawing their katana, the functions of their brain switched. They were not switching their body to one suited for battle. Their brain was remaking their bodies into one fit for combat.

By doing so, the muscles work in a way that should not be used by living beings, and the veins change the circulation route of the blood, prevent them from even breathing. ... Yes, human functions useless in battle are completely ejected as they are transformed into a part meant for war.

"That stance. So you transformed yourself by autosuggestion. I'm surprised." The woman in the kimono answered, yes, to the muttering of the pained magus.- KnK novel



She is stated to be far more powerful:

Q: How big is the difference in strength between Shiki when she's wielding a katana, and Shiki when she's wielding a knife? <Seiya>

Nasu:
The difference is enough that if there was a Rakkyo Warriors game, Katana Shiki would be the player and Knife Shiki would be the opponent.
Takeuchi: Amazing!! Umm… It is amazing, right?
Nasu: Let's take the fight scene from the middle of Chapter 5 as a convenient example. In this scenario, Shiki would be "Katana Shiki", and all the apartment residents would be "Knife Shiki"

This is also confirmed by Araya in the Novel:


"Compared to how she is know, her normal self cannot even match up to her".- KnK novel


In this state Shiki was considerably superior to Araya in speed, who should scale to Kouma and Nero Chaos due to the aforementioned statement :

"Araya became witness to it.

The extraordinary feat of the girl, moving after his scream, then acting faster than his scream.

Both arms, holding the katana, came up, at a speed fast enough to be mistaken for a flash. "

"He only opened the palm of his hand and clenched it. But just doing that, however was too slow in the face of Ryougi Shiki's sprint.

Araya, having no time to say anything or to even think, received it. . Ryougi Shiki burst forth."

"But, she, with just one swing, simultaneously obliterated the two outer barriers within range, then took one step forward.

If her sword swung at godlike speed, how fast was her movement?

Ryougi Shiki with only one step covered a space of four meters.

Her body flowed. The one step she walked was at the same time a step to repeat her deadly slashes. It almost even seemed as if with her unbelievably fast body, time wasn't so much as being stopped but rewound."

"The magus, Araya Souren - possessing the physical prowess to dodge even a speeding bullet after it was fired - leapt back after he had been completely cut, while not realizing he had been." - KnK Novel



And Araya admitted that he would have died if it wasn't for his barrier:

"That attack just now indeed would have brought him a fatal wound. Had Shiki's second slash killed not two, but three of his barriers, Araya's body would have been cleaved in two from the torso.

The magus's closest one, his first barrier, Fugu, prevented that. Its protection faintly slowed her advance, sparing him a fatal wound."
-KnK Novel



What's most impressive is that Ryougi did this while being critically injured and not in top conditions:

Ryougi Shiki looked at the magus, still in the stance of swinging the katana. A stream of fresh blood dripped from her lips. She had not received any injuries. It was simply just her wounds from last night opening. With several ribs and organs damaged, blood regurgitated out from her mouth by her merely walking." -KnK Novel

"Coughing, blood dripped from her mouth. Had yesterday's injuries not been there, she would have slashed at the magus without rest and may have decapitated him." -KnK Novel



She also tanked Araya's strongest spell and kept fighting as if nothing happened despite being severely injured :


Shuku, he said, compressing the space with the palm of his hand.

Impact besieged Ryougi Shiki's body with force that could crush all the bones in her body from all directions.

She uttered a dying groan.

The red jumper was shredded and the girl in the white kimono fell to the floor.

No, she was going to fall to the floor.

- Ryougi Shiki disappeared simply. But Shiki didn't want to let him escape.

She should have been definitely been unconscious, but her white body jumped up.

She had only been looking at the death of Araya Souren's body.

The katana was swung.

It struck the center of the magus' chest.

The magus felt his life being sucked away and reviled the feeling.

"Fool!"

Araya at the same time, in disbelief, kicked Shiki.

It had been a middle kick, striking her stomach with his heel, like a spear.

But Shiki jumped back, avoiding it.

The katana came out and it was then that Araya realized.

To stop her, he....

"So I must destroy my entire world!"- KnK Novel


So Ryougi should get another key which should be called With self hypnosis or With Kanesada Kuji with at least Massively Hypersonic speed (since she speedblitzed Araya despite being half dead) and at least 6-C durability (due to her surviving Araya's space crushing spell despite having her ribs and organs damaged).





The last character i will talk about is Akiha, specifically her Kohaku route version.

She is stated in Plus Period to be possibly stronger than Arcueid:

"In one of the routes, she ended up inverting and demonstrating her power to its fullest extent. That dreadful form, with its fluttering vermilion hair, is probably capable of exceeding even a rampaging Arcueid." - TSUKIHIME Dictionary: Tohno Akiha [Person's name], p.185

So she should get another key representing her Kohaku route self when she is at full power with 6-C stats.
 
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Everything here looks decent, however I don't think a single statment of a charachter poll is enough to justify her scaling above Zelretch especially when he's consistently portrayed as the strongest mage in the Mages association.

I do believe that Aoko scales to Low 1-C Possibly 1-C but that would be via her usage of True Magic. Although if there's consistent evidence suggesting that she is superior to Zelretch then could you please provide it.
 
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Everything here looks decent, however I don't think a single statment of a charachter poll is enough to justify her scaling above Zelretch especially when he's consistently portrayed as the strongest mage in the Mages association.

I do believe that Aoko scales to Low 1-C Possibly 1-C but that would be via her usage of True Magic. Although if there's consistent evidence suggesting that she is superior to Zelretch then could you please provide it.
Thanks. Well, unfortunately that statement is the only evidence that i know of about Aoko being better than Zelretch. What about the other characters?
 
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Hi, i wanted to talk about some possible upgrades for various characters.

We'll start with Aoko Aozaki. In Type Moon Fourth Character Poll she was stated to be the strongest magic user :

無題ドキュメント

Here is the quote: 最強のマジックユーザー。If translated, it says that she is the most powerful magic user, which should make her superior to Zelretch. So she should get Low 1-C, possibly 1-C for when she uses her magic.
This also then goes on to say she fights exclusively with magic blasts, so when they said magic user here, they seem to have been referring to magecraft and not true magic, they also used Majutsu (what they use for magecraft) rather than Maho, which is what they use for true magic. Additionally, Zelretch by this point has been degraded due to his fight with Brunestud so he isn't physically that tier, only his hax is, and the quote is calling her (Aoko) the strongest, not her magic. Finally, her magic already like, is considered low 1-C possibly 1-C afaik it's just like, there's nowhere to list that. She can't exactly use it offensively, and it's not like she's amped to that level when she turns red
The second character is Araya Souren. This also comes from Type Moon Fourth Character Poll:

"A boss character with excellent long-range attacks and a powerful fighting style befitting his imposing stature. An all-rounder capable of fighting from any range, Araya is a Power Type on par with Nrvnqsr and Kishima Kouma."

This is also seemingly referenced in Melty Blood, where Shiki Ryougi commented that Nrvnqsr was easier to defeat than Araya.

So Araya should be upgraded to 6-C, Low 6-B with magecraft (since he should be capable of generating an amount of power comparable to that of Nero's strongest beasts).
This would also apply to Kouma Kishima, who should get a likely Low 6-B due to being equal to Nrvnqsr.
I suppose this is fine yeah, there's other reasons Araya, Touko and co should be at least 6-C anyway so I'm not gonna argue that this is inconsistent
Now we move on Ryougi Shiki.

In Melty Blood Actress Again, Ryougi defeated Nrvnqsr Chaos and even called him a "trash tier monster". This should be mentioned in her speed section.

She also has this statement: "A listless girl who who wears both Eastern and Western clothes by wearing a leather jacket on top of her kimono. A character that seems have to have taken only the best parts of two characters: Tohno Shiki's Mystic Eyes of Death Perception and Nanaya Shiki's Nanaya Techniques. Every movement is high-spec, with no opening in either her offense or defense. However, attacks that do not use either her knife or her katana deal surprisingly low damage".- Character Introduction from Tsukihime's fourth Character Popularity Poll

This means that she should be comparable to Nanaya.

My proposal would be to change her speed justification to Massively Hypersonic reactions and combat speed (Easily defeated Nrvnqsr Chaos. Stated to be comparable to Nanaya Shiki)

Also, her durability should be upgraded to 6-C due to barely surviving a punch from Araya.


Most importantly, she is missing a key for when she wields her katana and activates her self hypnosis ability. it is an entirely different state compared to her usual knife wielding self:

"A long, long, time ago. Samurai had been said to accept killing and be killed naturally the moment their swords were drawn. This wasn't because of an emotional state as a warrior. The instant they gripped the handle, they would awaken.

Their bodies transform into ones existing only for killing, their brains turn into ones moving only for survival.

This wasn't beyond the level of bracing oneself before a match. By drawing their katana, the functions of their brain switched. They were not switching their body to one suited for battle. Their brain was remaking their bodies into one fit for combat.

By doing so, the muscles work in a way that should not be used by living beings, and the veins change the circulation route of the blood, prevent them from even breathing. ... Yes, human functions useless in battle are completely ejected as they are transformed into a part meant for war.

"That stance. So you transformed yourself by autosuggestion. I'm surprised." The woman in the kimono answered, yes, to the muttering of the pained magus.- KnK novel



She is stated to be far more powerful:

Q: How big is the difference in strength between Shiki when she's wielding a katana, and Shiki when she's wielding a knife? <Seiya>

Nasu:
The difference is enough that if there was a Rakkyo Warriors game, Katana Shiki would be the player and Knife Shiki would be the opponent.
Takeuchi: Amazing!! Umm… It is amazing, right?
Nasu: Let's take the fight scene from the middle of Chapter 5 as a convenient example. In this scenario, Shiki would be "Katana Shiki", and all the apartment residents would be "Knife Shiki"

This is also confirmed by Araya in the Novel:


"Compared to how she is know, her normal self cannot even match up to her".- KnK novel


In this state Shiki was considerably superior to Araya in speed, who should scale to Kouma and Nero Chaos due to the aforementioned statement :

"Araya became witness to it.

The extraordinary feat of the girl, moving after his scream, then acting faster than his scream.

Both arms, holding the katana, came up, at a speed fast enough to be mistaken for a flash. "

"He only opened the palm of his hand and clenched it. But just doing that, however was too slow in the face of Ryougi Shiki's sprint.

Araya, having no time to say anything or to even think, received it. . Ryougi Shiki burst forth."

"But, she, with just one swing, simultaneously obliterated the two outer barriers within range, then took one step forward.

If her sword swung at godlike speed, how fast was her movement?

Ryougi Shiki with only one step covered a space of four meters.

Her body flowed. The one step she walked was at the same time a step to repeat her deadly slashes. It almost even seemed as if with her unbelievably fast body, time wasn't so much as being stopped but rewound."

"The magus, Araya Souren - possessing the physical prowess to dodge even a speeding bullet after it was fired - leapt back after he had been completely cut, while not realizing he had been." - KnK Novel



And Araya admitted that he would have died if it wasn't for his barrier:

"That attack just now indeed would have brought him a fatal wound. Had Shiki's second slash killed not two, but three of his barriers, Araya's body would have been cleaved in two from the torso.

The magus's closest one, his first barrier, Fugu, prevented that. Its protection faintly slowed her advance, sparing him a fatal wound."
-KnK Novel



What's most impressive is that Ryougi did this while being critically injured and not in top conditions:

Ryougi Shiki looked at the magus, still in the stance of swinging the katana. A stream of fresh blood dripped from her lips. She had not received any injuries. It was simply just her wounds from last night opening. With several ribs and organs damaged, blood regurgitated out from her mouth by her merely walking." -KnK Novel

"Coughing, blood dripped from her mouth. Had yesterday's injuries not been there, she would have slashed at the magus without rest and may have decapitated him." -KnK Novel



She also tanked Araya's strongest spell and kept fighting as if nothing happened despite being severely injured :


Shuku, he said, compressing the space with the palm of his hand.

Impact besieged Ryougi Shiki's body with force that could crush all the bones in her body from all directions.

She uttered a dying groan.

The red jumper was shredded and the girl in the white kimono fell to the floor.

No, she was going to fall to the floor.

- Ryougi Shiki disappeared simply. But Shiki didn't want to let him escape.

She should have been definitely been unconscious, but her white body jumped up.

She had only been looking at the death of Araya Souren's body.

The katana was swung.

It struck the center of the magus' chest.

The magus felt his life being sucked away and reviled the feeling.

"Fool!"

Araya at the same time, in disbelief, kicked Shiki.

It had been a middle kick, striking her stomach with his heel, like a spear.

But Shiki jumped back, avoiding it.

The katana came out and it was then that Araya realized.

To stop her, he....

"So I must destroy my entire world!"- KnK Novel


So Ryougi should get another key which should be called With self hypnosis or With Kanesada Kuji with at least Massively Hypersonic speed (since she speedblitzed Araya despite being half dead) and at least 6-C durability (due to her surviving Araya's space crushing spell despite having her ribs and organs damaged).
I'm not sure about a key, the self hypnosis really is just a buff and well, hypnosis, making her fight more effectively by drawing out her latent abilities, it's not really enough for a key tbh.

As for the tiering, for some additional stuff to support 6-C Shiki, Monster (her in the mooncell) is not amped at all, is human still, and killed 99 servants, this is in addition to statements in Melty Blood saying that, like Kouma, her body has reached the level of a Mystery (servant). So she could possibly just be outright 6-C with all that.
The last character i will talk about is Akiha, specifically her Kohaku route version.

She is stated in Plus Period to be possibly stronger than Arcueid:

"In one of the routes, she ended up inverting and demonstrating her power to its fullest extent. That dreadful form, with its fluttering vermilion hair, is probably capable of exceeding even a rampaging Arcueid." - TSUKIHIME Dictionary: Tohno Akiha [Person's name], p.185

So she should get another key representing her Kohaku route self when she is at full power with 6-C stats.
Arc during Tsukihime isn't 6-C though, she's 6-C pre and post Tsukhime
 
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This also then goes on to say she fights exclusively with magic blasts, so when they said magic user here, they seem to have been referring to magecraft and not true magic, they also used Majutsu (what they use for magecraft) rather than Maho, which is what they use for true magic. Additionally, Zelretch by this point has been degraded due to his fight with Brunestud so he isn't physically that tier, only his hax is, and the quote is calling her (Aoko) the strongest, not her magic. Finally, her magic already like, is considered low 1-C possibly 1-C afaik it's just like, there's nowhere to list that. She can't exactly use it offensively, and it's not like she's amped to that level when she turns red

I see. So i suppose that she doesn't need an upgrade.



I suppose this is fine yeah, there's other reasons Araya, Touko and co should be at least 6-C anyway so I'm not gonna argue that this is inconsistent
Yes, Araya said that Touko could have possibly defeated him with her sealed box Demon.




I'm not sure about a key, the self hypnosis really is just a buff and well, hypnosis, making her fight more effectively by drawing out her latent abilities, it's not really enough for a key tbh.

Then maybe it could be added a "higher with self hypnosis" next to her stats, because it's still a massive increase. Like i said, she blitzed Araya while being essentially half dead, and endured his "Shuku" spell while having her ribs and organs damaged, whereas normal Shiki was almost killed by a simple punch from Araya (which was the reason she was heavily injured in their second fight in the first place).





As for the tiering, for some additional stuff to support 6-C Shiki, Monster (her in the mooncell) is not amped at all, is human still, and killed 99 servants, this is in addition to statements in Melty Blood saying that, like Kouma, her body has reached the level of a Mystery (servant). So she could possibly just be outright 6-C with all that.

Right, forgot about the quote from MB about her being a living mystery. She also outright killed Dead Apostle Ancestors like Nero in Melty Blood like i said. Plus Araya himself would be Servant level, going by the quote that compares him to Nero and Kouma, and Shiki was able to scar his forehead during their first encounter, and that was when she didn't have her Mystic Eyes yet.

Arc during Tsukihime isn't 6-C though, she's 6-C pre and post Tsukhime


Ah right. Well, then i guess it depends on what version of Arcueid is the quote referring to. What do you think?
 
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Then maybe it could be added a "higher with self hypnosis" next to her stats, because it's still a massive increase. Like i said, she blitzed Araya while being essentially half dead, and endured his "Shuku" spell while having her ribs and organs damaged, whereas normal Shiki was almost killed by a simple punch from Araya (which was the reason she was heavily injured in their second fight in the first place).
Yeah a higher or maybe far higher with self suggestion would make sense
Right, forgot about the quote from MB about her being a living mystery. She also outright killed Dead Apostle Ancestors like Nero in Melty Blood like i said. Plus Araya himself would be Servant level, going by the quote that compares him to Nero and Kouma, and Shiki was able to scar his forehead during their first encounter, and that was when she didn't have her Mystic Eyes yet.
Yeah there's a good bit supporting it imo
Ah right. Well, then i guess it depends on what version of Arcueid is the quote referring to. What do you think?
Considering the quote is from the Tsukihime datebook, I'd assume it's talking about a rampaging Arc during Tsukihime, if it was a Melty Blood book or something, I'd be inclined to think it meant post Tsukhime. But since it's a Tsukihime one, I'd have to assume they mean Arc during the events of that game, when red Akiha appears, who isn't 6-C.
 
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Considering the quote is from the Tsukihime datebook, I'd assume it's talking about a rampaging Arc during Tsukihime, if it was a Melty Blood book or something, I'd be inclined to think it meant post Tsukhime. But since it's a Tsukihime one, I'd have to assume they mean Arc during the events of that game, when red Akiha appears, who isn't 6-C.
Alright, so she would still be 9-A. But i think it should still be mentioned on her profile.
 
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So, is this accepted or do we need more input? It's my first time making a thread. I also don't really know how to edit profiles.
 
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Run this past @Regidian as well He/She/They(pardon the wokness can't be too careful lol) seems to be quite knowledgeable on the Nasuverse

And if you agree then will the changes be implemented??? Or is more input still required
 
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No she probably just shouldn't scale to Shiki
Her entire reason for scaling is the scene in the 6th novel/movie where she pushes Shiki down on the bed, climbs on her, and takes away the knife

That doesn't really give any reason to scale in terms of AP, and given Shiki's immediate reply to the situation is "that should be enough to push down Mikiya", she might not have been really trying either
 
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No she probably just shouldn't scale to Shiki
Her entire reason for scaling is the scene in the 6th novel/movie where she pushes Shiki down on the bed, climbs on her, and takes away the knife

That doesn't really give any reason to scale in terms of AP, and given Shiki's immediate reply to the situation is "that should be enough to push down Mikiya", she might not have been really trying either
Alright, thanks. i'm waiting for Antvasima to respond so that i can apply the changes.
 
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Basically everything but the Aoko part and Akiha part, the former has nothing to add to the profile, and the latter is just adding an additional justification to her current AP

So

6-C for Shiki, for scaling to Araya, fighting servants, and the line about having a body on par with servants, with a higher rating for when she uses self suggestion, and the mhs thing

6-C, Low 6-B with magecraft for Araya, and the upgrade for those who scale (mostly Touko)

Likely low 6-B for Kouma

And I think that should be it, unless I missed something
 
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6-C, Low 6-B with magecraft for Araya, and the upgrade for those who scale (mostly Touko)

Speaking of Touko, would she be 6-C or low 6-B? Because Araya said that her sealed box demon may be able to defeat him, meaning it should be able to get past his bounded fields.
 
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Unsure, probably 6-C though, since her sister is stronger in terms of pure firepower still (usually), and she's only 6-C

Although you could argue low 6-B since the familiar would have been able to eat all of his magecraft and barriers too considering it was going to be able to eat the entire apartment complex/workshop, and Touko only didn't do that to avoid attention. I'd personally stick with just 6-C though, since that avoids having to upgrade Aoko, and consequently Arcueid and whoever else
 
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Unsure, probably 6-C though, since her sister is stronger in terms of pure firepower still (usually), and she's only 6-C

Although you could argue low 6-B since the familiar would have been able to eat all of his magecraft and barriers too considering it was going to be able to eat the entire apartment complex/workshop, and Touko only didn't do that to avoid attention. I'd personally stick with just 6-C though, since that avoids having to upgrade Aoko, and consequently Arcueid and whoever else
Fair enough.
 
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I was also thinking of making Shiki low 6-B with self suggestion. Because she tanked Araya's strongest spell while being heavily injured. What do you think?
 
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Unsure, probably 6-C though, since her sister is stronger in terms of pure firepower still (usually), and she's only 6-C

Although you could argue low 6-B since the familiar would have been able to eat all of his magecraft and barriers too considering it was going to be able to eat the entire apartment complex/workshop, and Touko only didn't do that to avoid attention. I'd personally stick with just 6-C though, since that avoids having to upgrade Aoko, and consequently Arcueid and whoever else
Although now that i think about it, that would only apply to Touko's sealed box demon, so it wouldn't really contradict Aoko being better than Touko in firepower as the demon is not part of Touko's own combat ability.
 

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Since we do not seem to get any comments here from the members that I called for earlier, and this does not seem controversial, I suppose that what has been accepted is likely fine to apply.
 
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Although now that i think about it, that would only apply to Touko's sealed box demon, so it wouldn't really contradict Aoko being better than Touko in firepower as the demon is not part of Touko's own combat ability.
This is true, but Aoko is already established as stronger than a few of Touko's familiars, considering she had to get the projector demon to replace one that Aoko beat.

I was also thinking of making Shiki low 6-B with self suggestion. Because she tanked Araya's strongest spell while being heavily injured. What do you think?
Is Shuku his strongest spell though? If so then I guess that makes sense, I don't know, it doesn't seem right to me, but self suggestion Shiki does not exist outside of that fight, so there's not much to go off of besides her being much stronger based on statements and the Araya fight. So I'm unsure.
 
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This is true, but Aoko is already established as stronger than a few of Touko's familiars, considering she had to get the projector demon to replace one that Aoko beat.
Fine. Although i noticed that Touko's durability is listed as unknown. Didn't her coat barely protect her from some blast fired by Aoko? That would also help the scaling for Araya, since he easily damaged her through her coat and broke her ribs.

Is Shuku his strongest spell though? If so then I guess that makes sense, I don't know, it doesn't seem right to me, but self suggestion Shiki does not exist outside of that fight, so there's not much to go off of besides her being much stronger based on statements and the Araya fight. So I'm unsure.
Well, it is the strongest spell he has shown. His magecraft would be ranked as low 6-B, so self suggestion Shiki surviving it despite being injured is very impressive, especially when you consider that normal Shiki was taken out by a simple punch from Araya.
 

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Since we do not seem to get any comments here from the members that I called for earlier, and this does not seem controversial, I suppose that what has been accepted is likely fine to apply.
I will atempt to do this. It may take a while, my PC is dead, so I need to borrow my dad's. (Which also explains why I haven't been active much)
 

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You need to use the source code editing mode, and go down to the bottom of a page, where the categories are, and erase the ones that you want to remove, but be careful to not remove anything else.
 

Antvasima

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Okay. I have done so.

Is there anything left to do here?
 
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