Naruto Vs Tanjiro (1 - 1 - 0)

I apologize if this is a Stomp

Speed is Equal

Both have prior knowledge of each other's abilities and both are bloodlusted

Win via death or Incap

Rest are SBA

Base naruto and Demon slayer mark tanjiro is being used

Gamabunta is restricted

Naruto: 1 (NomsNoms)

Tanjiro: 1 (NaitoDesu)

Incon:

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

Extrasensory Perception (Able to sense the presence of others and malicious intent), Enhanced Senses, Smell and Clairvoyance (Can recognize and smell things normally impossible, such as the smell of the demon who killed his family years after the event or the intention of others. Can smell what kind of person someone is, their feelings and, to an extent, how strong they are), Telepathy (Is able to smell the thoughts of others, and attempts having conversations with animals and insects) and Genius Intelligence

He should easily be able to find naruto

 

[Nierre]

What reasons above exactly? All of the reasons above have been debunked

Major skill advantage, precog, decent ap advantage the fact that he's somewhat comparable Muichiro who was able to cut up 10k targets means that numbers don't really matter. While Naruto has an abundance of chakra, that's really all that he has.

I don't really understand the overplay when it comes to Naruto's clones. I just took a look at Naruto vs Mizuki, Naruto vs Kimimaro, and Naruto vs Gaara. When he used MSCJ (Multi Shadow Clone Jutsu) against Mizuki, Mizuki just stood there paralyzed, and then got beat up off screen. When Naruto used MSCJ against Gaara, Gaara just stood there while getting comboed with Uzumaki Barrage, while against Kimimaro, most of them just stood there anyways, and even when they tried attacking which was like 3-5 at a time, max, they just got shredded. And at some point he managed to defeat every clone AND almost dealt the final blow against Naruto himself, if Rock Lee hadn't interrupted.

I'm not saying that Tanjiro is comparable to Kimimaro in skill or anything, but this clearly shows that if you're skilled and are able to move around, Naruto's clones aren't really a hassle. Tanjiro is able to move on his toes, he has prcog, and a clear ap advantage.

 

[Razor]

Extrasensory Perception (Able to sense the presence of others and malicious intent), Enhanced Senses, Smell and Clairvoyance (Can recognize and smell things normally impossible, such as the smell of the demon who killed his family years after the event or the intention of others. Can smell what kind of person someone is, their feelings and, to an extent, how strong they are), Telepathy (Is able to smell the thoughts of others, and attempts having conversations with animals and insects) and Genius Intelligence

He should easily be able to find naruto

The clones have thoughts and intentions similar to the real naruto, so tanjiro wouldn't be able to smell the real naruto as they would all smell the same to him

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

Can recognize and smell things normally impossible, such as the smell of the demon who killed his family years after the event or the intention of others. Can smell what kind of person someone is, their feelings and, to an extent, how strong they are), Telepathy (Is able to smell the thoughts of others, and attempts having conversations with animals and insects) and Genius Intelligence

 

[Nierre]

Tanjiro's precog easily allows him to evade any and all attacks against him and swiftly finish them off, and beat up Naruto once his clones are defeated.

Also remind me when has Naruto ever "spammed MSCJ" I don't remember him ever doing it in pts. He's done it once in a fight, and that usually is it (either he beats his opponents [Mizuki], gets stomped [Kimimaro], or the opponent tanks it and gets stronger [Gaara])

 

[Razor]

Major skill advantage, precog, decent ap advantage the fact that he's somewhat comparable Muichiro who was able to cut up 10k targets means that numbers don't really matter. While Naruto has an abundance of chakra, that's really all that he has.

I don't really understand the overplay when it comes to Naruto's clones. I just took a look at Naruto vs Mizuki, Naruto vs Kimimaro, and Naruto vs Gaara. When he used MSCJ (Multi Shadow Clone Jutsu) against Mizuki, Mizuki just stood there paralyzed, and then got beat up off screen. When Naruto used MSCJ against Gaara, Gaara just stood there while getting comboed with Uzumaki Barrage, while against Kimimaro, most of them just stood there anyways, and even when they tried attacking which was like 3-5 at a time, max, they just got shredded. And at some point he managed to defeat every clone AND almost dealt the final blow against Naruto himself, if Rock Lee hadn't interrupted.

I'm not saying that Tanjiro is comparable to Kimimaro in skill or anything, but this clearly shows that if you're skilled and are able to move around, Naruto's clones aren't really a hassle. Tanjiro is able to move on his toes, he has prcog, and a clear ap advantage.

1. He doesn't have a major skill advantage, Naruto is on par with him skill wise, This is late base naruto who already had a lot of experience in fight, Precod would be useful but my point was stamina issues, The 10k targets has already been debunked, those fishes don't cover nearly as much range as 1/10 of naruto's clones more so all of them,

Yeah thats cause he has enough stamina to do so, Its noted on tanjiro's weakness section that DSM drains his stamina, He wouldn't have enough stamina to kill them all

I didn't mention anything about the clones actually dealing a lot of damage to tanjiro, like I've said multiple times , Its the stamina issue, And the ap advantage is only somewhere around 2x, its not that big of a deal,

 

[Razor]

Tanjiro's precog easily allows him to evade any and all attacks against him and swiftly finish them off, and beat up Naruto once his clones are defeated.

Also remind me when has Naruto ever "spammed MSCJ" I don't remember him ever doing it in pts. He's done it once in a fight, and that usually is it (either he beats his opponents [Mizuki], gets stomped [Kimimaro], or the opponent tanks it and gets stronger [Gaara])

Yeah, If he dodges a group of clones another group of clones can just attack him while he created an opening for the clones, once he makes that initial jump or dodge the other clones can jump him, think about it like dodge ball, The enemy team throws one ball at you, you jump to dodge it, while you're midair another one from the enemy team throws another ball at you

Both are bloodlusted, also all of those are far stronger than this tanjiro (except mizuki)

 

[Nierre]

1. He doesn't have a major skill advantage, Naruto is on par with him skill wise, This is late base naruto who already had a lot of experience in fight

Wait what? Late Base Naruto? Does this Naruto have access to Rasengan or not? Which arc is this??

 

[Razor]

Extrasensory Perception (Able to sense the presence of others and malicious intent), Enhanced Senses, Smell and Clairvoyance (Can recognize and smell things normally impossible, such as the smell of the demon who killed his family years after the event or the intention of others. Can smell what kind of person someone is, their feelings and, to an extent, how strong they are), Telepathy (Is able to smell the thoughts of others, and attempts having conversations with animals and insects) and Genius Intelligence

He should easily be able to find naruto

I read it the first time and understood it, I don't think you understood me though, Even if he can smell the thoughts of others it wouldn't matter cause all clones have thoughts themselves, and they share the same intentions with the og naruto, what thought will the original naruto think that would make tanjiro go "Oh thats the real one"

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

1. He doesn't have a major skill advantage

He does...

Naruto is on par with him skill wise

No, not even close... Combat intelligence maybe

Precod would be useful but my point was stamina issues, The 10k targets has already been debunked, those fishes don't cover nearly as much range as 1/10 of naruto's clones more so all of them,

Tanjiro doesn't need to delete all of naruto's clones...

Yeah thats cause he has enough stamina to do so, Its noted on tanjiro's weakness section that DSM drains his stamina, He wouldn't have enough stamina to kill them all

Doesn't need to

 

[Razor]

Wait what? Late Base Naruto? Does this Naruto have access to Rasengan or not? Which arc is this??

Yes he does, Latest arc which he showed notable feats in base (I think the rooftop battle was the latest, not sure though)

 

[Razor]

He does...

No, not even close... Combat intelligence maybe

Tanjiro doesn't need to delete all of naruto's clones...

Doesn't need to

How so? Naruto is also skilled, I didn't say tanjiro has no skill advantage at all, he does but its not that big


Why wouldn't he need to? if he attempts to attack the real naruto, The real naruto would also attack and the other clones would attack too, He'd take more damage than he would do to the real naruto

 

[GilverTheProtoAngelo]

People with Sharingan cannot locate real Narutu, I doubt smell based Prediction is helping at all here.

 

[Nierre]

Yeah, If he dodges a group of clones another group of clones can just attack him while he created an opening for the clones, once he makes that initial jump or dodge the other clones can jump him, think about it like dodge ball, The enemy team throws one ball at you, you jump to dodge it, while you're midair another one from the enemy team throws another ball at you

Watch the Naruto vs Kimamaro fight. He didn't even attempt to do that. Most of the fight was just a 1v1 or 1v2 or in a rare case 1v5 which they all got one shot. He didn't even bother trying to create openings in any of his fights tbh, I think you might be overestimating Naruto's intellect/skill/experience.
This also goes back to my previous point, but Tanjiro is way smarter than Naruto in part 1, I'm going to be completely honest, but Naruto in part 1 isn't a very smart fighter iirc, he just uses clones and rasengan and that's literally it. He's very unpredictable, I'll give him that, but against someone that has precog, I don't know how far that'll take him. He's very underwhelming in terms of skill, yes he has the stamina advantage but skillwise I'd say Tanjiro is way more skilled. The only argument I could see being used is him learning Rasengan really quickly, which is great on his part but I don't think that will really change the battle.

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

Which tanjiro is used?
Key: Post-Demon Slayer Training | Post-Rehabilitation Training | Post-Zeroshiki Training | Post-Pillar Training | Post-Breath of the Sun Mastery | Demon Form

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

People with Sharingan cannot locate real Narutu, I doubt smell based Prediction is helping at all here.

Sharingan only reads movements... That's all

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

The only argument I could see being used is him learning Rasengan really quickly

With the help of a master ninja and didn't learn it quickly at all I think

 

[GilverTheProtoAngelo]

Sharingan only reads movements... That's all

Limited X-ray Vision (The Sharingan allows him to see chakra through solid obstacles), Enhanced Sight (The Sharingan greatly enhances his vision, also allowing him to effectively keep track of swift moving objects, see and give colour to chakra, and can even let him see on a cellular scale), Power Mimicry (The Sharingan allows the user to copy Jutsu used by others, including combat styles), Analytical Prediction (He can predict someone's movements based on the smallest muscle tension thanks to the Sharingan, allowing him to cleanly retaliate and counterattack without wasting any movements), Can see camouflaged targets with the Sharingan, Information Analysis (with the sharingan he can see the energy to determine a persons next move and their power), Resistance to Illusion Creation and Perception Manipulation

Something that sees Chakra itself is useless against clones.

 

[Nierre]

Actually now that I'm thinking about it, since Naruto did this in canon, since they're both knowledgable on each other's abilities, Naruto must know about Tanjiro's good sense of smell. Assuming Naruto knows that Tanjiro's smelling gives him an advantage......... would farting do anything here.........

 

[Razor]

Which tanjiro is used?
Key: Post-Demon Slayer Training | Post-Rehabilitation Training | Post-Zeroshiki Training | Post-Pillar Training | Post-Breath of the Sun Mastery | Demon Form

Post Zero-shiki Training

 

[Razor]

Actually now that I'm thinking about it, since Naruto did this in canon, since they're both knowledgable on each other's abilities, Naruto must know about Tanjiro's good sense of smell. Assuming Naruto knows that Tanjiro's smelling gives him an advantage......... would farting do anything here.........

Uh well Maybe?

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

Something that sees Chakra itself is useless against clones.

Can I see scan? Don't remember that

 

[Razor]

Did the fart knocked kiba out or did it just like tamper his smelling senses? I don't remember

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

Post Zero-shiki Training

And which Naruto?

 

[GilverTheProtoAngelo]

With the help of a master ninja and didn't learn it quickly at all I think

Said master ninjas who are combat geniuses needed Years for that, Said master ninjas were masters at chakra control.
Naruto was not, especially when his chakra circuits were purposely adversely hampered by Kurama, and yet he learnt it in weeK(or months?)

 

[Razor]

Said master ninjas who are combat geniuses needed Years for that, Said master ninjas were masters at chakra control.
Naruto was not, especially when his chakra circuits were purposely adversely hampered by Kurama, and yet he learnt it in weeK(or months?)

He learned it in one week

 

[Razor]

And which Naruto?

Latest base naruto (I think the latest he showed his base form and showed feats is rooftop fight base naruto)

 

[Nierre]

Did the fart knocked kiba out or did it just like tamper his smelling senses? I don't remember

Well it stunned him enough to pull of an Uzumaki Barrage, then again the fart technique was an accident (assuming from his reaction), so idk if it's worth banking on.

 

[Nierre]

Regardless, I stand by my vote

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

Creating s rank technique >>> copying s rank technique

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

Didn't kakashi learn it instantly?

 

[Nierre]

He just copied it via Sharingan

 

[Razor]

Watch the Naruto vs Kimamaro fight. He didn't even attempt to do that. Most of the fight was just a 1v1 or 1v2 or in a rare case 1v5 which they all got one shot. He didn't even bother trying to create openings in any of his fights tbh, I think you might be overestimating Naruto's intellect/skill/experience.
This also goes back to my previous point, but Tanjiro is way smarter than Naruto in part 1, I'm going to be completely honest, but Naruto in part 1 isn't a very smart fighter iirc, he just uses clones and rasengan and that's literally it. He's very unpredictable, I'll give him that, but against someone that has precog, I don't know how far that'll take him. He's very underwhelming in terms of skill, yes he has the stamina advantage but skillwise I'd say Tanjiro is way more skilled. The only argument I could see being used is him learning Rasengan really quickly, which is great on his part but I don't think that will really change the battle.

This naruto's bloodlusted so he will absolutely send all of his clones to blitz tanjiro, Him not blitzing kimimaro or other opponnents with clones fall under character induced stupidity, and bloodlusted character don't have that, So he'll blitz tanjiro with all his clones at once, Also yes he would start with rasengan and clones cause he is bloodlusted and his most powerful attack is the rasengan (the clones would use it too). Also naruto can summon gamabunta which has 6-C AP, If gamabunta makes this a stomp can I restrict it or are you not allowed to do that?

 

[GilverTheProtoAngelo]

Creating s rank technique >>> copying s rank technique

Jiraya created iirc, and Minato needed 3 years to learn it.

 

[Razor]

Creating s rank technique >>> copying s rank technique

Learning how to use S rank technique (like what naruto did) >>>> Copy it (Like what kakashi did). Idk how you can get the idea that naruto copied the technique, He learned it

 

[Razor]

Jiraya created iirc, and Minato needed 3 years to learn it.

Naw iirc minato made it

 

[GilverTheProtoAngelo]

Naw iirc minato made it

Minato made Rasenshuriken iirc, Rasengan was Jiraiya's. Lemme check.

 

[Nierre]

This naruto's bloodlusted so he will absolutely send all of his clones to blitz tanjiro, Him not blitzing kimimaro or other opponnents with clones fall under character induced stupidity, and bloodlusted character don't have that, So he'll blitz tanjiro with all his clones at once, Also yes he would start with rasengan and clones cause he is bloodlusted and his most powerful attack is the rasengan (the clones would use it too).

Fudge, I completely forgot it was bloodlusted, that's a fair point.

Also naruto can summon gamabunta which has 6-C AP, If gamabunta makes this a stomp can I restrict it or are you not allowed to do that?

Gambunta will definitely make it a stomp, and yeah you're able to restrict it.

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

Jiraya created iirc, and Minato needed 3 years to learn it.

Minato is creator...

 

[Nierre]

Minato made Rasenshuriken iirc, Rasengan was Jiraiya's. Lemme check.

No, Naruto created Rasenshuriken