Naruto VS Ichigo

[Novaslayer232]

im bored so lets see

sage Naruto

post-bankai training

no soul crush

no pre knowledge


speed Equal

 

[IMadeThisOn8-1-2017]

Mach 2225 for Naruto and Mach 873 for Ichigo with Bankai.

600 megatons for Naruto and 679.68 Megatons for Ichigo with a likely 3.4 Gigatons and higher with Hollowfying.

Speed is gonna make this a problem for Ichigo, his advantage is his AP and Durability.

 

[Naeblis495]

Almost 3 times as fast , oof .

Shunpo should close the gap a little but naruto is still faster .

Ichigo can fly too , that's an advantage in his favor if he get pressured too much. Ichigo also get stronger the more he fight.

 

[TOAAPRESENCE1]

Only problem i see is the speed

 

[Wrath_Of_Itachi]

Naruto scales above this feat, and he scales to 810mt from Rock Lees feat from The Last movie.

 

[TOAAPRESENCE1]

Naruto scales above this feat, and he scales to 810mt from Rock Lees feat from The Last movie.

this is sage naruto from pain arc

 

[Wrath_Of_Itachi]

I know. That's why I said he scales above the feat.

 

[IMadeThisOn8-1-2017]

How does Pain Arc Sage Naruto scale above The Last 6th Gate Lee?

 

[Wrath_Of_Itachi]

How does Pain Arc Sage Naruto scale above The Last 6th Gate Lee?

I was refering to the speed feat. Also the characters will end up being upgraded anyway after these revisions are done. Though as it is now SM Naruto pretty easily beats Ichigo.

 

[Novaslayer232]

do i have to equal speed

 

[IMadeThisOn8-1-2017]

Bleach's 7-A rating is being upgraded.

Post-Bankai Training Ichigo will now be at least 906 Megatons and 4.53 Gigatons with Bankai and higher while Hollowfying.

 

[AstralKing7]

This thread should wait.

Some knowledgeable members agreed that Naruto needs his Sage mode war arc key back Because it was deleted without discussion

Also because of the AP revisions anyway

 

[Wrath_Of_Itachi]

I honestly don't see how Ichigo can win. He may have the AP and Durability advantage, but Naruto exceeds him in everything else. Naruto is a better tactician, far more versatile, has his 6 toad summons two of them have genjutsu which Ichigo has no resistance to, he has his two methods of Durability negation with his Rasenshurikan which he can expand and Frog kumite . He also has extended range when using natural energy.

 

[IMadeThisOn8-1-2017]

Pretty sure 7.55 x AP/Durability advantage is one-shot territory and just an AP stomp.

 

[Wrath_Of_Itachi]

Pretty sure 7.55 x AP/Durability advantage is one-shot territory and just an AP stomp.

Where are you getting that from?

 

[IMadeThisOn8-1-2017]

Naruto's long link chain for his Sage Mode AP goes to 600 Megatons.

Ichigo's for Shikai is 906 Megatons and 4.53 Gigatons for Bankai since clouds just got another revision to them. I linked it above.

 

[Wrath_Of_Itachi]

Naruto's long link chain for his Sage Mode AP goes to 600 Megatons.

Ichigo's for Shikai is 906 Megatons and 4.53 Gigatons for Bankai since clouds just got another revision to them. I linked it above.

He can't go bankai since its a tier jump power up, just like Naruto can't go six tails. Also his scaling chain goes far above 600mt since his SM his superior to SM Jiraiya whos above Tsunade.

 

[LSirLancelotDuLacl]

Fool you've doomed us all.

 

[TOAAPRESENCE1]

If ichigo really has that much of an AP and Dura and can one shot like imade said then i vote for ichigo.

 

[LSirLancelotDuLacl]

If their transformations are restricted due to inducing tier change, then nah that isn't an option.

 

[TOAAPRESENCE1]

i dont see in the OP anything about restricting forms.

 

[AnonymousBlank]

Doesn't matter really. Ichigo's AD amps him to one shot things that no diff his attacks just prior, significant damage or death just causes Zangetsu to bodyjack and body Naruto.

 

[Wrath_Of_Itachi]

Naruto also one shots characters who scale above 600mt. Durability doesn't matter since Naruto has two ways to ignore it. The only issue is AP.

 

[UchihaSlayer96]

Can this even be added since RC is restricted?

 

[TOAAPRESENCE1]

No it wont get added because the restriction and if there were no restriction it would be a stomp in favor of ichigo

 

[IMadeThisOn8-1-2017]

Honestly, they should allow restricted matches, just add the restriction in with the Match Description just like with Speed Equalized and Version of Character.

 

[Red-Eyed_Specter]

I doubt Frog Strike is gonna do much damage to Ichigo, well the better term to use would be damage that'll kill Ichigo instantly. Ichigo has some insane endurance so damage done to organs isn't hinder someone who fights through being impaled like it's nothing, and in the worst case scenario Zangetsu can always revive Ichigo and take over. Rasenshuriken can be trouble if it hits Ichigo however. I feel like it could go either way, Ichigo can one shot and tank everything Naruto has to offer barring durability negation. Ichigo's weapon can also attack Naruto's soul directly if it hits him, but Naruto does have the speed and versatility advantage.


Need more time to think but I'm currently leaning on Ichigo.

 

[Wrath_Of_Itachi]

Damaging his organs will put him down, Ichigo doesn't have the regen to fight against it and he can only hit the soul with the hilt of his weapon.

 

[LSirLancelotDuLacl]

One of the ways to ignore Dura requires a projectile that can be slapped right back with a Getsuga Tensho or evaded, which is more than easy with Shunpo speed boost.

Frog Kumite is the actuall dangerous one.

 

[Wrath_Of_Itachi]

One of the ways to ignore Dura requires a projectile that can be slapped right back with a Getsuga Tensho or evaded, which is more than easy with Shunpo speed boost.

Frog Kumite is the actuall dangerous one.

This is where Naruros tactics comes into play, he can easily outsmart Ichigo and land a Rasenshurikan.

 

[LSirLancelotDuLacl]

You would need to be specific what he could do.

Just like Naruto, Ichigo can more or less battle without much care for his normal senses simply sensing by spirit energy. If he knows where stuff is, dupping him out turns much harder.

 

[Wrath_Of_Itachi]

His entire battle against pain shows his tactics. And he can also be put into a genjutsu by Ma and Pa, as well as having to deal with the multiple toad summons Naruto has.

 

[Red-Eyed_Specter]

Damaging his organs will put him down, Ichigo doesn't have the regen to fight against it and he can only hit the soul with the hilt of his weapon.

He doesn't need Regenerationn, I'm referring to him fighting through it. With stamina like Ichigo's organ damage isn't gonna be anything that'll drop him right then and there unless it hits his heart or brain which i don't recall Naruto ever doing. Also no, Ichigo can attack the soul directly with any part of the blade, the hilt BFR's while the blade attacks the soul. Naruto is also on a time limit here.

 

[Wrath_Of_Itachi]

Multiple strikes to the organs will put him down, and show me scans of Ichigo attacking a soul directly through a body of flesh.

 

[Red-Eyed_Specter]

Multiple strikes to the organs will put him down, and show me scans of Ichigo attacking a soul directly through a body of flesh.

Depends on which organs as i said above, Ichigo has fought through mutiple implements which would have damaged organs. I'll do you one better, read the profile perhaps.

Soul Manipulation (Shinigami can directly damage souls with their Zanpakutō), Invisibility, Non-Physical Interaction (Can harm and interact with intangible spirits and objects)

 

[LSirLancelotDuLacl]

You literally did nothing but prove my point. Animal Path got ****** because they were completely blinded and could see nothing. The Path at the back as well because he had no way to sense Naruto coming from above with two ransegans. The absoprtion Path almost had the same because he couldn't sense the thing coming at him was a bunch of energy but transformed Naruto. The very literal same for the Last Pain because he had absolutely no clue that almost all of the rocks were Naruto transformed.

So again, what actual tactics does Naruto have handy that don't rely on an opponent being unable to tell where he or/and his clones are?

Edit: Dude, literally see his profile. Shinigami had the ability to hit the soul accepted forever ago.

 

[Wrath_Of_Itachi]

Show me an instant where it has been done before. There is no scan in the description of it.

 

[LSirLancelotDuLacl]

So now it is not a thing despite the fact it is in the profile?

What are you even talking about?

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

He could probably dupe Ichigo by switching with his clones and jumping him when he's caught up in the fact that he sees Naruto poof into smoke.

 

[Red-Eyed_Specter]

Show me an instant where it has been done before. There is no scan in the description of it.

Unfortunately i don't have the time to go through Bleach to find it, but this ability has been accepted for the longest time now. It's quite literally on the profile, not sure what else you want.