naruto vs han jee-han

[Ricsi-viragosi]

sage mode naruto

speed equalized

1 month prep for both


its nice that it was explained why its not a mismach and was still closed

 

[Litentric_Teon]

Uh, Naruto is 7-C to Jee-Han's 8-A. This is a bit of a tier mismatch, as Jee-Han doesn't negate durability through anything to allow this to be fair.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Uh, Naruto is 7-C to Jee-Han's 8-A. This is a bit of a tier mismatch, as Jee-Han doesn't negate durability through anything to allow this to be fair.

time stop and prep time+ golem army.

 

[Litentric_Teon]

His golems can't even hurt Naruto as his durability should scale to his AP. Jee-Han also does not have access to time stop.

 

[Kellex]

Mods please close this thread.

This is a huge mismatch and there's a huge gap between the Tiers.

 

[Kellex]

Uh, Naruto is 7-C to Jee-Han's 8-A. This is a bit of a tier mismatch, as Jee-Han doesn't negate durability through anything to allow this to be fair.

time stop and prep time+ golem army.

Han Jee-Han is immune to it, not a time stop user. He can accelerate time tho.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Han Jee-Han is immune to it, not a time stop user. He can accelerate time tho.

ah, right, he accelerated it to teh point where everything was still though

 

[Dzhindzholia]

Cant Naruto just spam the shit out of him like he did that to 9 tails?

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Cant Naruto just spam the shit out of him like he did that to 9 tails?

time manipulation, he has an army

 

[Litentric_Teon]

I think saying time was still is a bit of a stretch. He only had time to cast a single spell truthfully, even if it was a quad spell.

Also, I agree that this should be closed. This is a tier mismatch.

 

[Kellex]

Not only is it a mismatch, but Naruto is getting upgrades right now.

 

[Joseph619]

Not only is it a mismatch, but Naruto is getting upgrades right now.

What upgrades?

 

[Kellex]

This thread.(maybe not upgrades, but naruto is in revisions right now)

 

[Joseph619]

It is in revision, Naruto profiles aee a horrible mess. It will take a long time to sort out, if possible

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

why is everyone ignoring prep time? he can create a self evlolving army in a week in time dilatation. has healing items, can create objects and items and the month well be prolonged by a lot via timedilatataion.


add to that his earth spirit which will just pull barricades and pull him under the earth, and air one which could change rasenshurikens tragectory

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

he can make 88 golems per 10 hours, each of which have tons of striking strenght, resistence to elemental attacks, magical attacks. phisical attacks. and can regenerate.

 

[Litentric_Teon]

It's not that we're ignoring pre time, it's that Jee-Han is unable to harm a character an entire tier above him as he has nothing that bypasses durability, making this a tier stomp. The entire reason for tiers is to classify characters based upon AP, and attempt to match up characters with similar AP to create fun and fair matches. Even with prep time, Jee-Han isn't going to magically change into a tier 7 character.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

sorry for triple post, but does magic nullification work on senjutsu and jutsu (magic does use natural energy in the gamer verse)?

 

[Litentric_Teon]

If verses were equalized, then magic would likely equal chakra. But both The Gamer verse and Naruto as a verse have various sets of energy. Naruto has senjutsu, chakra, and one other I believe. The Gamer verse thus far has shown mana, life energy, and energy associated with martial arts, I suppose it could be considered chi. Jee-Han's energy is like a combination of mana and chi.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

If verses were equalized, then magic would likely equal chakra. But both The Gamer verse and Naruto as a verse have various sets of energy. Naruto has senjutsu, chakra, and one other I believe. The Gamer verse thus far has shown mana, life energy, and energy associate with martial arts, I suppose it could be considered ki. Jee-Han's energy is like a combination of mana and chi.

the gamer also has nature energy, but its shown to be different, if they were equalized, this would be a stomp because of han bein eble to dispell it.

 

[Litentric_Teon]

Not at all. Physically, Naruto is still 7-C. He would be unharmed by Jee-Han's 8-A attacks, and Jee-Han would find himself one shot by anything Naruto does. It's a stomp. Characters of the same tier are meant to be matched up unless there's some special exception, like Samurai Jack having a sword that ignores durability to an extent.

Also, if you thought it would be a stomp in Jee-Han's favor, then you shouldn't have made the match in the first place. That's simply bias, and not very honest to create a match where you know the outcome. When creating a match, of course you want your character to win, but that doesn't mean you pit them up against someone with absolutely no chance. That's not how a match is supposed to work. Matches where one character has far more hax than another are closed for the same reason. Stomp matches are not allowed, plain and simple.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Not at all. Physically, Naruto is still 7-C. He would be unharmed by Jee-Han's 8-A attacks, and Jee-Han would find himself one shot by anything Naruto does. It's a stomp. Characters of the same tier are meant to be matched up unless there's some special exception, like Samurai Jack having a sword that ignores durability to an extent.

i didnt remeber the power nullification, but whitout senjutsu and jutsu teen naruto hasent been shown to be able of tier 7 feets.

even whit that, hanjeehan has multiple abilities and can outlast naruto via an army of goluems whit 10 tons of striking power and eventual elemental and time manipulation. naruto can be dammaged by piercing attacks, as can most shinobi at that point. it is no stomp for han, and thanks to prep time neither to naruto

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

after all , han can make up to 6336 golems.

 

[Litentric_Teon]

8-A characters cannot harm characters with 7-C durability unless they have special means, of which Jee-Han does not possess. Hence, the match cannot be considered valid. Especially after you just admitted to thinking the match was a stomp.

10 tons of striking power is only 8-B, which is even lower than 8-A. Definitely not going to harm a 7-C character.

Prep time honestly doesn't do much for Naruto other than him grabbing extra ninja tools, on which he typically carries on him anyway.

His elemental manipulation isn't any different from the things Naruto characters can do, and his time manipulation isn't as hax as you're making it out to be.

Also, saying sage mode naruto is being used here assumes he's in sage mode the entire match.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

8-A characters cannot harm characters with 7-C durability unless they have special means, of which Jee-Han does not possess. Hence, the match cannot be considered valid. Especially after you just admitted to thinking the match was a stomp.
10 tons of striking power is only 8-B, which is even lower than 8-A. Definitely not going to harm a 7-C character.

Prep time honestly doesn't do much for Naruto other than him grabbing extra ninja tools, on which he typically carries on him anyway.

His elemental manipulation isn't any different from the things Naruto characters can do, and his time manipulation isn't as hax as you're making it out to be.

Also, saying sage mode naruto is being used here assumes he's in sage mode the entire match.

abilities can be deactivated via energy running out or enemy hax, if not issei could use his hax form whitout the timelimit.


said 7 c has shown to be pierced by attacks made to... well... pierce. such as chackra rods (and no, they dont affect chakra until the pierced the body)

the time manipulation, while not onehit thing or asnything, is quiet hax, as hed become ridiculosly faster than naruto..

naruto cant do any elemental manipulation outside of rasenshuriken, and i named element manipulation as he can deflect said rasengan.


prep allows naruto to make clones to prolong his transformation

 

[PaChi2]

Okay:

About the tier stuff: current (and by current I mean last chapter's Jee-han) is many times stronger than the one who performed that feat (at least twice via a skill he just gained) so he is most likely capable of harming a 7-C naruto.

Jee-han has flight, something this naruto lacks and is totally in character for him to spam aoe attacks while flying and get advantage of his range.

Stamina-wise he is above naruto, so that's something.

And has more versatility. Im giving this to jeehan becausw of In character range abuse.