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Naruto to Boruto Discussion Thread

Watching a YT Video on Madara vs 5 Kage and… One thought just randomly came to mind when “he” was brought up:
Dan hit, didn’t he? 👀
 
If Sarada MS ability “Is” a Black Hole, the “Other” Ability could be to produce AGN Jets from it… 🤷‍♂️
  1. Black Hole = Defensive
  2. AGN Jet = Offensive
 
DavidTPPM said:
Lowkey I'd love for her susanoo to have something unique like Itachis had as well.
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People are saying she’ll have the fanart Body Armor Susanoo (Which would be cool IG).

Rn though, I really want them to focus on explaining how she’ll deal with the Blindness.
 
Shadowbokunohero said:
it would just mean it got retconned out of the story
the writer for the first 50ish chapters isnt with us anymore.
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So then the other narratives and such that were built around the eye being a Jougan, such as Toneri shit for example among others, would also be considered “retconned”.

Again, assuming the Manga changes the eye.
 
i mean sure, it would just mean outside of the arcs it used, we wouldnt be able to say future boruto can use the jougan blah blah
 
what's the strongest that the invincible verse reaches? Cuz if the wiki rating is the highest the verse can get then Juubidara stomps so hard lol
 
Ic, makes it a little more interesting, speed will probably be an issue for Madara if its just base edo tensei form
his perfect susano should be strong enough to keep up with their AP
 
MinatoSparkle said:
3 billion times FTL seems a bit too much 💀
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Yeah , but you know invincible characters, they fly fast at the opponent and explode into pieces if their durability is too high,

And the mfs just keep doing it too😭😭😭like they will see their friend do it and then continue running into the character and dying😭😭
 
MinatoSparkle said:
I think it's about Base Madara
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The TV show maybe but the comics are easily low 5-B. I've heard there are also higher tier 5 arguments from scaling to other Image Comics characters but I've only read Invincible so idk for sure.

And tbh probably so are the TV show versions since the show seems to mostly follow the basic story layout and it's not like Mark gets trillion times stronger. They just didn't get to the whole alien war arc thingy.
Ghostimuscrime said:
no cuz I've heard that the mftl stuff was supposedly inaccuarate for needing prep time or sth so I didnt fully buy into that
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They don't need prep time, the argument is more so that they need to accelerate to reach those speeds.

But to reach speeds of 3 trillion times the speed of light in less than 2 weeks they would essentially accelerate by 2480159 times the speed of light per second, which is consistent with them dodging ships of similar speed.
So they'd still completely blitz Nardverse even with the travel speed counter argument
 
MFTL+ Invincible? Nah that's definitely accurate.

regularly flying across different solar systems in short amounts of time and fighting at similar speeds.

Ppl just don't like that random cornballs like the guardians of the globe can somehow react on occasion.
 
DavidTPPM said:
The TV show maybe but the comics are easily low 5-B. I've heard there are also higher tier 5 arguments from scaling to other Image Comics characters but I've only read Invincible so idk for sure.

And tbh probably so are the TV show versions since the show seems to mostly follow the basic story layout and it's not like Mark gets trillion times stronger. They just didn't get to the whole alien war arc thingy.

They don't need prep time, the argument is more so that they need to accelerate to reach those speeds.

But to reach speeds of 3 trillion times the speed of light in less than 2 weeks they would essentially accelerate by 2480159 times the speed of light per second, which is consistent with them dodging ships of similar speed.
So they'd still completely blitz Nardverse even with the travel speed counter argument
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Juubidara should be able to handle it then


edo madara only if speed is equalised assuming there's no hidden smurfs
 
Godernet said:
MFTL+ Invincible? Nah that's definitely accurate.

regularly flying across different solar systems in short amounts of time and fighting at similar speeds.

Ppl just don't like that random cornballs like the guardians of the globe can somehow react on occasion.
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It's just that people can't fathom that characters don't necessarily operate at 100% capacity all the time.
 
Ghostimuscrime said:
Juubidara should be able to handle it then
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They both upscale above the lower end Zettaton range on the wiki but Mark is absurdly faster. He'd probably pummel him to paste before Madara can react.
Ghostimuscrime said:
edo madara only if speed is equalised assuming there's no hidden smurfs
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I mean, that's not exactly a fair set of circumstances now is it. What's basically a no-hax speedsters against an immortal zombie with speed equalized?
 
DavidTPPM said:
They both upscale above the lower end Zettaton range on the wiki but Mark is absurdly faster. He'd probably pummel him to paste before Madara can react.

I mean, that's not exactly a fair set of circumstances now is it. What's basically a no-hax speedsters against an immortal zombie with speed equalized?
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Don’t worry guys trust, Urashiki is about to save this verse once we learn he travelled across multiple galaxies (from the otutsuki’s planet) to reach Earth in under five months. Ikemoto and Kishimoto, I hope you guys are reading this🙏😩.
 
DavidTPPM said:
They both upscale above the lower end Zettaton range on the wiki but Mark is absurdly faster. He'd probably pummel him to paste before Madara can react.
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I was speaking in regards to my own opinion of Juubi Madara's scaling rather than the Wikis
I have him much higher into Tier 5 and much faster than them
DavidTPPM said:
I mean, that's not exactly a fair set of circumstances now is it. What's basically a no-hax speedsters against an immortal zombie with speed equalized?
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lmao, the reverse is edo madara being unable to counter or do anything, didnt equalize AP so if they catch him without a susano he would be losing
Samlex1234 said:
Don’t worry guys trust, Urashiki is about to save this verse once we learn he travelled across multiple galaxies (from the otutsuki’s planet) to reach Earth in under five months. Ikemoto and Kishimoto, I hope you guys are reading this🙏😩.
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700x ftl vs billionsxftl 💔💔
 
Samlex1234 said:
Don’t worry guys trust, Urashiki is about to save this verse once we learn he travelled across multiple galaxies (from the otutsuki’s planet) to reach Earth in under five months. Ikemoto and Kishimoto, I hope you guys are reading this🙏😩.
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That'd be really funny given he literally has space-time ninjutsu
 
DavidTPPM said:
That'd be really funny given he literally has space-time ninjutsu
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Unless you have the coordinates for a planet, you can't use space-time ninjutsu and according to Urashiki he didn't have the coordinates.

Edit.
We also have the info from Toneri that he indeed flew.
 
Ghostimuscrime said:
I was speaking in regards to my own opinion of Juubi Madara's scaling rather than the Wikis
I have him much higher into Tier 5 and much faster than them
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I mean like I said Mark is probably much higher in tier 5 as well (it's really worth noting the Invincible comics are not nearly popular enough for him to have a good profile).

What I'm more concerned about is the speed. You have Madara at more than 3 trillion times the speed of light? 😭
Ghostimuscrime said:
lmao, the reverse is edo madara being unable to counter or do anything,
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I mean, yeah, you're putting up a stat merchant against a hax merchant. Equalizing stats is kinda a onesided setting
Ghostimuscrime said:
didnt equalize AP so if they catch him without a susano he would be losing
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I don’t even wanna think about the implication you made here 💔
 
DavidTPPM said:
I mean like I said Mark is probably much higher in tier 5 as well (it's really worth noting the Invincible comics are not nearly popular enough for him to have a good profile).
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yeah that's why I asked if he was higher provably, guess he suffers from lack of supporters
DavidTPPM said:
What I'm more concerned about is the speed. You have Madara at more than 3 trillion times the speed of light? 😭
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gendoposecover.jpg

yes.
DavidTPPM said:
I mean, yeah, you're putting up a stat merchant against a hax merchant. Equalizing stats is kinda a onesided setting
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we call hax merchants smurfs and that made me think we should have a similar word for stat merchants

also im just equalising speed not all stats
isnt there a number for blitzing someone, assuming the characters arent given that much difference, we can just assume madara is the lower end while the comic folks are at the upper end?
that way the fight isnt a stomp on either sides
DavidTPPM said:
I don’t even wanna think about the implication you made here 💔
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Ghostimuscrime said:
yeah that's why I asked if he was higher provably, guess he suffers from lack of supporters
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Yeah. But he's also a comic book character with a ton of crossovers so that makes him harder to scale than a Manga character.

Like one of his alternates killed Spawn, the tier 1 guy 😭
Ghostimuscrime said:
gendoposecover.jpg

yes.
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That's crazy ngl. Like I've seen a lot of crazy speed scales for Naruto but trillions of times c? I'm almost afraid to ask how does one get there 💀
Ghostimuscrime said:
we call hax merchants smurfs and that made me think we should have a similar word for stat merchants
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Uhhh not exactly. Smurfs are characters with higher dimensional hax.
So Madara isn't a smurf but if he as a 3D character with 3D AP had 4D hax that
Ghostimuscrime said:
also im just equalising speed not all stats
isnt there a number for blitzing someone, assuming the characters arent given that much difference, we can just assume madara is the lower end while the comic folks are at the upper end?
that way the fight isnt a stomp on either sides
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Well the thing is that Madara is just straight up immortal. Marks only option would probably be to like, throw him in space, which wouldn't really be possible without his usual speed advantage.

And without that he has no win-con thanks to the equalization.
 
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